EVs... no one wants them! (Vol. 2)
EVs... no one wants them! (Vol. 2)
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MightyBadger

3,881 posts

73 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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SpeckledJim said:
Octopus aren't limiting how much you can have. You're making things up. Again.
Whatever Jim.

Google AI: Octopus Energy is limiting electricity for its smart EV tariffs like Intelligent Octopus Go by enforcing a six-hour daily cap on cheap off-peak charging per household, cracking down on users gaming the system with slow-charging workarounds, and introducing higher "bump" rates after the initial six hours

blueg33

44,689 posts

247 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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MightyBadger said:
SpeckledJim said:
Octopus aren't limiting how much you can have. You're making things up. Again.
Whatever Jim.

Google AI: Octopus Energy is limiting electricity for its smart EV tariffs like Intelligent Octopus Go by enforcing a six-hour daily cap on cheap off-peak charging per household, cracking down on users gaming the system with slow-charging workarounds, and introducing higher "bump" rates after the initial six hours
rolleyes

Just like Shell offering a 2p per litre discount for the first 50 litres.

andrewpandrew

2,260 posts

12 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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MightyBadger said:
SpeckledJim said:
Octopus aren't limiting how much you can have. You're making things up. Again.
Whatever Jim.

Google AI: Octopus Energy is limiting electricity for its smart EV tariffs like Intelligent Octopus Go by enforcing a six-hour daily cap on cheap off-peak charging per household, cracking down on users gaming the system with slow-charging workarounds, and introducing higher "bump" rates after the initial six hours
And if you've got it plugged in for 8 hours you'll pay for a couple of hours at the peak rate. That's not capping the amount you can put in?!

MightyBadger

3,881 posts

73 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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blueg33 said:
rolleyes

Just like Shell offering a 2p per litre discount for the first 50 litres.
What has that got to do with Octopus and electricity?

uktrailmonster

9,789 posts

223 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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SpeckledJim said:
MightyBadger said:
blueg33 said:
I ve heard that petrol prices are going to go up.
They have always been going up since I have started driving, it's nothing new. I don't even look at prices when filling. Couldn't tell you how much a litre is.

Would be more annoyed if I was limited to how much fuel I could put in my car when filling up.
Octopus aren't limiting how much you can have. You're making things up. Again.
Yeah, it’s still only 8 p/mile at peak rate, which I rarely need to use even running 2 cars with a combined 30k miles per year.

blueg33

44,689 posts

247 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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MightyBadger said:
blueg33 said:
rolleyes

Just like Shell offering a 2p per litre discount for the first 50 litres.
What has that got to do with Octopus and electricity?
Struggling to follow the thread?

This may help

https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChsSEwiYl...


wink

MightyBadger

3,881 posts

73 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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blueg33 said:
Struggling to follow the thread?

This may help

https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChsSEwiYl...


wink
Not clicking a random link lol.

So is everyone saying Octopus isn't limiting it's energy even though Octopus are saying they are?


SpeckledJim

32,545 posts

276 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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MightyBadger said:
SpeckledJim said:
Octopus aren't limiting how much you can have. You're making things up. Again.
Whatever Jim.

Google AI: Octopus Energy is limiting electricity for its smart EV tariffs like Intelligent Octopus Go by enforcing a six-hour daily cap on cheap off-peak charging per household, cracking down on users gaming the system with slow-charging workarounds, and introducing higher "bump" rates after the initial six hours
So it's not limited at all then. You can have as much as you want. Some at 'this price' and the rest at 'that price' and ALL of it is cheaper than petrol.

And the number of people who will regularly need the 'that price' is very small indeed.

Pick the fights you can win. They don't go ROAARRRR!!! like a 1.5 TDi does. That's always a winner for you. Stick with that one.

andrewpandrew

2,260 posts

12 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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MightyBadger said:
blueg33 said:
Struggling to follow the thread?

This may help

https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChsSEwiYl...


wink
Not clicking a random link lol.

So is everyone saying Octopus isn't limiting it's energy even though Octopus are saying they are?
I know it's Monday morning, but are you being deliberately obtuse?

MightyBadger

3,881 posts

73 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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SpeckledJim said:
So it's not limited at all then. You can have as much as you want. Some at 'this price' and the rest at 'that price' and ALL of it is cheaper than petrol.

And the number of people who will regularly need the 'that price' is very small indeed.

Pick the fights you can win. They don't go ROAARRRR!!! like a 1.5 TDi does. That's always a winner for you. Stick with that one.
Eh? I don't even know anyone who owns a 1.5tdi. Strange but expected reply from you though.


otolith

65,324 posts

227 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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It seems fairly likely that a fair proportion of the people who own electric cars already know about this, are already familiar with how Octopus Intelligent Go works, and have taken the trouble to understand exactly what the implications are?

blueg33

44,689 posts

247 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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MightyBadger said:
Not clicking a random link lol.

So is everyone saying Octopus isn't limiting it's energy even though Octopus are saying they are?
It’s an online course to help kids with comprehension!

SpeckledJim

32,545 posts

276 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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MightyBadger said:
SpeckledJim said:
So it's not limited at all then. You can have as much as you want. Some at 'this price' and the rest at 'that price' and ALL of it is cheaper than petrol.

And the number of people who will regularly need the 'that price' is very small indeed.

Pick the fights you can win. They don't go ROAARRRR!!! like a 1.5 TDi does. That's always a winner for you. Stick with that one.
Eh? I don't even know anyone who owns a 1.5tdi. Strange but expected reply from you though.
Any appetite to correct the record? Octopus are NOT limiting how much electricity their customers can buy.



uktrailmonster

9,789 posts

223 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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MightyBadger said:
Not clicking a random link lol.

So is everyone saying Octopus isn't limiting it's energy even though Octopus are saying they are?
Yes, they are not limiting your energy supply.

blueg33

44,689 posts

247 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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MightyBadger said:
Not clicking a random link lol.

So is everyone saying Octopus isn't limiting it's energy even though Octopus are saying they are?
It’s an online course to help kids with comprehension!

fooman

1,057 posts

87 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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Octopus limiting to max 12 hours of cheap rate? I was surprised this much was allowed.

Mammasaid

5,278 posts

120 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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fooman said:
Octopus limiting to max 12 hours of cheap rate? I was surprised this much was allowed.
It never was according to their Ts & Cs. What was happening was that some were deliberately throttling their charge rate so that they could get many more hours at the cheap rate, which of course benefitted the whole house.

Now they're saying, the following;

• Intelligent Octopus Go customers will continue to receive 6 hours of off-peak electricity for your whole home between 11:30pm and 5:30am. Guaranteed, reliable, schedule-friendly off-peak savings.
• Plus up to 6 hours of super-cheap smart charging every 24 hours – these may be during your home’s off-peak hours (11:30pm - 05:30am), outside those times, or a mix of both.
• Whenever the 6 hours smart charging is scheduled outside your off-peak window, the electricity for your whole home will also be at the discounted rates.
• If we need to schedule more than 6 hours to reach your target charge, only the first 6 hours of charging will be at the discounted rate – extra half-hours will be charged at your Bump rate (even if they’re scheduled during the off-peak window).

SpeckledJim

32,545 posts

276 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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Curious to see how this works with Intelligent Go.

As it stands if I plug in at 6pm and the car starts charging, the whole house swaps to 7.5p. Then between 2330 and 0530 the guaranteed hours are also at 7.5p and that's when my Powerwall is set to charge.

I don't want the car eating the discounted hours in the evening and then the Powerwall charging at normal rate. I expect that's not the way it'll work but I'd like to find out.



Edited by SpeckledJim on Monday 15th December 11:41

MightyBadger

3,881 posts

73 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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6 hours if cheap charging is better than none I suppose. New tech will see charging times plummet at some point in the future anyway.

otolith

65,324 posts

227 months

Monday 15th December 2025
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SpeckledJim said:
Curious to see how this works with Intelligent Go.

As it stands if I plug in at 6pm and the car starts charging, the whole house swaps to 7.5p. Then between 1130 and 0530 the guaranteed hours are also at 7.5p and that's when my Powerwall is set to charge.

I don't want the car eating the discounted hours in the evening and then the Powerwall charging at normal rate. I expect that's not the way it'll work but I'd like to find out.
The low whole house tariff will remain guaranteed during 11:30-05:30. If you've already used up your 6 hours of car charging, any car charging during the cheap window will be at the bump rate (they're going to have to work this out from the OIG integration, the meter won't know).