EVs... no one wants them! (Vol. 2)

[Galibier]

The comments on that video could come from some of the posters here.

[uktrailmonster]

MightyBadger said:

Buzz84 said:

Not sure why got need to mention Clarkson, he's not the only car journalist around you know

I never said you were going to buy one, and that's your prerogative. It's the weird fetish you have to try and find anything bad on them to post.

You have an obsession, you keep coming up with the videos about something you don't want. You must be out looking for them directly or searching related items for the algorithms to suggest them to you.

It just seems you can't take other people having different opinions, views and humour to your own?

I presume you are another one who thinks opinions are all of equal merit.

[MightyBadger]

uktrailmonster said:

I presume you are another one who thinks opinions are all of equal merit.

I presume you are another who thinks his opinions are best.

[uktrailmonster]

MightyBadger said:

uktrailmonster said:

I presume you are another one who thinks opinions are all of equal merit.

I presume you are another who thinks his opinions are best.

Well actually I strongly favour informed opinion. Whether my own or not. I also tend not to present strong opinions about things I know nothing about.

[MightyBadger]

uktrailmonster said:

Well actually I strongly favour informed opinion. Whether my own or not. I also tend not to present strong opinions about things I know nothing about.

When did I post strong opinions about something I know nothing about?

[uktrailmonster]

MightyBadger said:

uktrailmonster said:

Well actually I strongly favour informed opinion. Whether my own or not. I also tend not to present strong opinions about things I know nothing about.

When did I post strong opinions about something I know nothing about?

You appear to value uninformed opinion from YT videos and click-bait news. I presume when you post those links, you agree with their opinion.

[TheRainMaker]

SDK said:

A500leroy said:

Any merit in it getting to £1 per mile before it's introduced or is that just typical Mac master (YouTube) scariest?

For the millionth time - MacMaster is an entertainment channel, you don't go there for facts !

I think you might be being generous with your "entertainment" line

I used to watch his stuff when he did food reviews, but then the EV stuff started, and to make things even worse, he began reviewing Benidorm.

The channel is now a complete load of tosh; he is chasing the money.

[Familymad]

Went to Sytner BMW High Wycombe this weekend to see the new iX and maybe Neue IX3. I was surprised that the 15-20 cars in the showroom, none were BEV. None! I drove onto have a look at the Kia PV5 passenger. Almost all of their showroom cars were BEV and it was buzzing with people test driving and sitting doing deals.

[tamore]

Familymad said:

Went to Sytner BMW High Wycombe this weekend to see the new iX and maybe Neue IX3. I was surprised that the 15-20 cars in the showroom, none were BEV. None! I drove onto have a look at the Kia PV5 passenger. Almost all of their showroom cars were BEV and it was buzzing with people test driving and sitting doing deals.

neatly encapsulates what's going on. head in sand in some quarters, inevitable transition embraced by others.

[plfrench]

tamore said:

Familymad said:

Went to Sytner BMW High Wycombe this weekend to see the new iX and maybe Neue IX3. I was surprised that the 15-20 cars in the showroom, none were BEV. None! I drove onto have a look at the Kia PV5 passenger. Almost all of their showroom cars were BEV and it was buzzing with people test driving and sitting doing deals.

neatly encapsulates what's going on. head in sand in some quarters, inevitable transition embraced by others.

Well BMW achieved about 40% more EV sales than Kia last year and over 28% BEV vs Kia at under 20%. Maybe BMW recognise that their customers for EVs are mainly company / SS and therefore they don’t need to lure them into the showroom to sell EVs. The fleet / SS providers probably provide the demos. Kia are probably more reliant on showroom traffics to shift their wares.

[tamore]

plfrench said:

tamore said:

Familymad said:

Went to Sytner BMW High Wycombe this weekend to see the new iX and maybe Neue IX3. I was surprised that the 15-20 cars in the showroom, none were BEV. None! I drove onto have a look at the Kia PV5 passenger. Almost all of their showroom cars were BEV and it was buzzing with people test driving and sitting doing deals.

neatly encapsulates what's going on. head in sand in some quarters, inevitable transition embraced by others.

Well BMW achieved about 40% more EV sales than Kia last year and over 28% BEV vs Kia at under 20%. Maybe BMW recognise that their customers for EVs are mainly company / SS and therefore they don t need to lure them into the showroom to sell EVs. The fleet / SS providers probably provide the demos. Kia are probably more reliant on showroom traffics to shift their wares.

who says I'm talking about the dealers?

[fooman]

tamore said:

Familymad said:

Went to Sytner BMW High Wycombe this weekend to see the new iX and maybe Neue IX3. I was surprised that the 15-20 cars in the showroom, none were BEV. None! I drove onto have a look at the Kia PV5 passenger. Almost all of their showroom cars were BEV and it was buzzing with people test driving and sitting doing deals.

neatly encapsulates what's going on. head in sand in some quarters, inevitable transition embraced by others.

I feel we've reached a tipping point where the fear of EVs has gone and people just want the best car for their circumstances.

[uktrailmonster]

fooman said:

I feel we've reached a tipping point where the fear of EVs has gone and people just want the best car for their circumstances.

The fear is still alive and well on PH though

My impression is that most people now seriously consider an EV when they come to buy their next new car.

[plfrench]

uktrailmonster said:

The fear is still alive and well on PH though

My impression is that most people now seriously consider an EV when they come to buy their next new car.

It’s pretty inevitable when more than 1 in 20 of all cars in the country’s car pool are EV, they’re not a niche thing any more.

[Buzz84]

MightyBadger said:

Buzz84 said:

Not sure why got need to mention Clarkson, he's not the only car journalist around you know

I never said you were going to buy one, and that's your prerogative. It's the weird fetish you have to try and find anything bad on them to post.

You have an obsession, you keep coming up with the videos about something you don't want. You must be out looking for them directly or searching related items for the algorithms to suggest them to you.

It just seems you can't take other people having different opinions, views and humour to your own?

Did you not read the post you quoted? you have some sort of blinker on to only see what you want to see?!?

I quite literally say in the post that not wanting an EV is your prerogative...

[uktrailmonster]

plfrench said:

uktrailmonster said:

The fear is still alive and well on PH though

My impression is that most people now seriously consider an EV when they come to buy their next new car.

It s pretty inevitable when more than 1 in 20 of all cars in the country s car pool are EV, they re not a niche thing any more.

When I bought my first EV in early 2018 they were still pretty niche. Just a few Teslas, Leafs, i3s etc. Hard to believe there were no Model 3/Ys back then! Now they are everywhere, along with loads of alternatives. Even PHEVs were still a bit of a novelty back then.

[greenarrow]

Just clicked on that EVcarnage video to see what the fuss is about and oh my days the guy has not helped improve the nationwide perception of west country people one bit has he! Classic angry middle aged West Ham fan too, with added gammon vibes....how many stereotypes ticked in one video? The comments are absolutely hilarious. Why is he ranting on about the lease deal either, as if the low mileage limit for the cheap price is something exclusive for BEVs?! Hilariously at the end of his rant he actually does a very good job of showcasing the Tesla's USP of being incredibly cheap to run for urban users. I don't own an EV but people like this are just embarrassing.

Edited by greenarrow on Monday 12th January 10:04

[uktrailmonster]

greenarrow said:

Just clicked on that EVcarnage video to see what the fuss is about and oh my days the guy has not helped improve the nationwide perception of west country people one bit has he! Classic angry middle aged West Ham fan too, with added middle age gammon vibes....how many stereotypes ticked in one video? The comments are absolutely hilarious. Why is he ranting on about the lease deal either, as if the low mileage limit for the cheap price is something exclusive for BEVs?! Hilariously at the end of his rant he actually does a very good job of showcasing the Tesla's USP of being incredibly cheap to run for urban users. I don't own an EV but people like this are just embarrassing.

I m impressed that you stuck it out till the end
I tuned out after he repeated the word “standard” a couple of hundred times. Oddly, it reminded me of the Peter Kay garlic bread routine, except that was funny!

[Galibier]

Meanwhile in famously not-at-all-cold country Norway:

https://electrek.co/2026/01/02/norway-reaches-97-e...

[SpeckledJim]

Galibier said:

Meanwhile in famously not-at-all-cold country Norway:

https://electrek.co/2026/01/02/norway-reaches-97-e...

I wonder if the Norwegians have some angry Olavs and Gustavs on Youtube telling them all that it's impossible, and if they only keep the oily faith (and keep watching their channels) that the nasty electric cars will all go away soon?