EVs... no one wants them! (Vol. 2)
Discussion
MediumBuild said:
I ran my first car, a Metro 1.0L City, for 6 years and over 100k miles. 47hp of sheer A Series power driving all over the country.
Somehow survived.
I have owned old minis and done the same kind of driving. Somehow survived.
With the spring It's not so much the speed of it that would put me off but the light and vague steering, leans when cornering and harsh ride. Those things combined with the lack of speed wouldn't make it much fun for me, but I accept others might find that fun.
The only thing the speed would affect driving on the roads around here would be exiting junctions onto 60mph roads and getting up to speed, would just have to wait a bit longer for a suitable gaps. A non issue for somebody who lives and drives in town, the people who they are aimed at. Unlike metros and minis the spring isn't so adept to cross country road trips.
MightyBadger said:
MediumBuild said:
I ran my first car, a Metro 1.0L City, for 6 years and over 100k miles. 47hp of sheer A Series power driving all over the country.
Somehow survived.
I have owned old minis and done the same kind of driving. Somehow survived.
With the spring It's not so much the speed of it that would put me off but the light and vague steering, leans when cornering and harsh ride. Those things combined with the lack of speed wouldn't make it much fun for me, but I accept others might find that fun.
The only thing the speed would affect driving on the roads around here would be exiting junctions onto 60mph roads and getting up to speed, would just have to wait a bit longer for a suitable gaps. A non issue for somebody who lives and drives in town, the people who they are aimed at. Unlike metros and minis the spring isn't so adept to cross country road trips.
greenarrow said:
You honestly think this car is less adept at a cross country trip than an ancient Austin Metro?! Have you driven one? No, neither have I, which is why I am going to before passing judgement and my post said "am I mad to test drive a Dacia Spring", not "Am I mad to buy one". I am sure it is absolutely fine. I chanced upon one a couple of weeks ago driving along the Wimborne bypass near why I live. Dorset isn't dissimilar to Cornwall with its mix of urban and country roads. The thing turned left at a roundabout onto a 50MPH piece of B road; by the time I had got round the roundabout from the opposite direction to follow it (literally seconds later), it was way up the road. It had accelerated very smartly up to the speed limit and probably beyond!. Electric cars are far far quicker at getting up to speed from a standing start, even pokey little ones like a Spring. I think now I definitely need to drive one to find out for sure. If it really is awful, at least I will know for sure! Hubnut loves it, which is a good sign for me as he tends to like the same sort of stuff as I do.
Yeah I have driven old metros. They are better at cross country than a spring due to not having to stop every hundred or so miles for a 45 minute recharge stop, to others that might be acceptable, they might be great in every other way, just not for me, characteristics of it puts me off (posted previously).You don't have to own a spring to know how they drive. That's what reviews and real world videos of them in action are for.
I also watch hubnut and enjoy his content, doesn't mean I have to like the spring lol.
To some the AMI is the best thing since sliced bread, wouldn't work on the roads I drive though and I'm not the target audience.
Your quote "Electric cars are far far quicker at getting up to speed from a standing start, even pokey little ones like a Spring" might ring true in town but pulling out onto 60mph roads not so much.
Well iv bit the bullet today and ordered an EV. I had always planned on getting a PHEV next as I wanted the best of both worlds, Electric for local driving and Petrol for long distance. Anyway the car in question is the same price as the PHEVs I was interested in.
It has a claimed 448m range, if I get 350 in winter which the reviews seem to think is possible then ill be very happy. Also on a proper fast charger, 200 miles in 10 minutes.
Now I know its not as easy as going to a petrol pump and just filling up but I think the range will suit me at 15k miles a year and I can charge at home.
It has a claimed 448m range, if I get 350 in winter which the reviews seem to think is possible then ill be very happy. Also on a proper fast charger, 200 miles in 10 minutes.
Now I know its not as easy as going to a petrol pump and just filling up but I think the range will suit me at 15k miles a year and I can charge at home.
Chuffedmonkey said:
Well iv bit the bullet today and ordered an EV. I had always planned on getting a PHEV next as I wanted the best of both worlds, Electric for local driving and Petrol for long distance. Anyway the car in question is the same price as the PHEVs I was interested in.
It has a claimed 448m range, if I get 350 in winter which the reviews seem to think is possible then ill be very happy. Also on a proper fast charger, 200 miles in 10 minutes.
Now I know its not as easy as going to a petrol pump and just filling up but I think the range will suit me at 15k miles a year and I can charge at home.
ID7?It has a claimed 448m range, if I get 350 in winter which the reviews seem to think is possible then ill be very happy. Also on a proper fast charger, 200 miles in 10 minutes.
Now I know its not as easy as going to a petrol pump and just filling up but I think the range will suit me at 15k miles a year and I can charge at home.
Always being a little skeptical about the whole EV thing, but having seen the current lease deals Tesla are offering and just having come back from a test drive on a Model 3 I have to say I'm very impressed.
Now I was this year planning on getting away from leasing cars (I lease for 2 years on 10k miles and have done for the last 10 years). My plan was to buy something around £25k this year, maybe a Mini Countryman JCW 2nd hand and run it for 5 years at least.
But having had a test drive of the Tesla im now wondering on whether to get a Tesla Model 3 on the new lease deals they are offering or go out and buy a 2nd hand Tesla Model 3, seen some around £17-£18k with around 30000 miles on it. Could also stretch to a performance model as well for some fun.
Are people buying 2nd had EV's, if so what are the things to look out for?
Now I was this year planning on getting away from leasing cars (I lease for 2 years on 10k miles and have done for the last 10 years). My plan was to buy something around £25k this year, maybe a Mini Countryman JCW 2nd hand and run it for 5 years at least.
But having had a test drive of the Tesla im now wondering on whether to get a Tesla Model 3 on the new lease deals they are offering or go out and buy a 2nd hand Tesla Model 3, seen some around £17-£18k with around 30000 miles on it. Could also stretch to a performance model as well for some fun.
Are people buying 2nd had EV's, if so what are the things to look out for?
Martylaa said:
Always being a little skeptical about the whole EV thing, but having seen the current lease deals Tesla are offering and just having come back from a test drive on a Model 3 I have to say I'm very impressed.
Now I was this year planning on getting away from leasing cars (I lease for 2 years on 10k miles and have done for the last 10 years). My plan was to buy something around £25k this year, maybe a Mini Countryman JCW 2nd hand and run it for 5 years at least.
But having had a test drive of the Tesla im now wondering on whether to get a Tesla Model 3 on the new lease deals they are offering or go out and buy a 2nd hand Tesla Model 3, seen some around £17-£18k with around 30000 miles on it. Could also stretch to a performance model as well for some fun.
Are people buying 2nd had EV's, if so what are the things to look out for?
We have recently placed an order for a lease for a Tesla Model 3, having been, like yourself very impressed with the car after a test drive.Now I was this year planning on getting away from leasing cars (I lease for 2 years on 10k miles and have done for the last 10 years). My plan was to buy something around £25k this year, maybe a Mini Countryman JCW 2nd hand and run it for 5 years at least.
But having had a test drive of the Tesla im now wondering on whether to get a Tesla Model 3 on the new lease deals they are offering or go out and buy a 2nd hand Tesla Model 3, seen some around £17-£18k with around 30000 miles on it. Could also stretch to a performance model as well for some fun.
Are people buying 2nd had EV's, if so what are the things to look out for?
If we hadnt went for that we'd have went for an Approved Used Tesla. I think thats the likely safest route.
I saw some R4 deals at around £220 amortised. I'll try and share. Seems amazing value.
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Edited by nickfrog on Sunday 12th April 14:29
Martylaa said:
Always being a little skeptical about the whole EV thing, but having seen the current lease deals Tesla are offering and just having come back from a test drive on a Model 3 I have to say I'm very impressed.
Now I was this year planning on getting away from leasing cars (I lease for 2 years on 10k miles and have done for the last 10 years). My plan was to buy something around £25k this year, maybe a Mini Countryman JCW 2nd hand and run it for 5 years at least.
But having had a test drive of the Tesla im now wondering on whether to get a Tesla Model 3 on the new lease deals they are offering or go out and buy a 2nd hand Tesla Model 3, seen some around £17-£18k with around 30000 miles on it. Could also stretch to a performance model as well for some fun.
Are people buying 2nd had EV's, if so what are the things to look out for?
Would you have the opportunity to purchase the car after your lease?Now I was this year planning on getting away from leasing cars (I lease for 2 years on 10k miles and have done for the last 10 years). My plan was to buy something around £25k this year, maybe a Mini Countryman JCW 2nd hand and run it for 5 years at least.
But having had a test drive of the Tesla im now wondering on whether to get a Tesla Model 3 on the new lease deals they are offering or go out and buy a 2nd hand Tesla Model 3, seen some around £17-£18k with around 30000 miles on it. Could also stretch to a performance model as well for some fun.
Are people buying 2nd had EV's, if so what are the things to look out for?
otolith said:
Small battery and 30kW maximum charging speed would kill the Spring for long range use for me.
It's interesting that on their website they don't actually state the number. Just give you a 20-80% charging time. I'm surprised it's not atleast 50kw, 30kw seems almost pointless.
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