Lee Noble to launch 515 bhp/tonne Exile track car.

[joust]

Few things to answer some of the comments

Its an engineering prototype. Its not designed to reflect anything finished. The dials were indeed some that Lee had 'laying around'. We aren't fussed about it being 'pretty', we are proving some fundamental engineering points.
It's totally clean sheet design from the bottom up. Whilst the M12/400/14/15/600 experience clearly influenced him, just like anyone's prior work does their current work, it's not 'related' nor 'based on'.
The paint scheme is designed to be like it is. Ragging this around to test it to the limit takes its toll, and its designed to be easy to repaint/repair/not care
Yes, it has been heavily influenced by CAD. Having driven it above 150 it's very stable.
Styling a car like this will always divide people, we accept that.

J

[joust]

A few more images

[sundance002]

Anyone remember what this prototype was?
Just shows how a finished product changes so much.
And what a great car it turned into

Edited by sundance002 on Thursday 11th May 00:57

[PurpleAki]

Ascari Ecosse.

[andygtt]

joust said:

Few things to answer some of the comments

Its an engineering prototype. Its not designed to reflect anything finished. The dials were indeed some that Lee had 'laying around'. We aren't fussed about it being 'pretty', we are proving some fundamental engineering points.
It's totally clean sheet design from the bottom up. Whilst the M12/400/14/15/600 experience clearly influenced him, just like anyone's prior work does their current work, it's not 'related' nor 'based on'.
The paint scheme is designed to be like it is. Ragging this around to test it to the limit takes its toll, and its designed to be easy to repaint/repair/not care
Yes, it has been heavily influenced by CAD. Having driven it above 150 it's very stable.
Styling a car like this will always divide people, we accept that.

J

Your saying all the right things

As a prototype using parts and experience you already have makes total sense, but there was zero info about it to so say what it was or wasn't as far as i could see... styling wise, its different and Ive just noticed the words 'track car' in the title so if thats the case then being different to the norm is a good thing. The styling certainly has potential if its tweaked and refined IMO.

It was at the Kit Car show... was there an indicator as to its marketing in there or was that just to let the Prototype break cover?

Certainly a good thing to have him building his own cars again... now its in the open make sure you get a proper working web site asap, people are going to want to follow progress and look up the facts.

Now get back to work and finish it so we can see the actual finished product

[sundance002]

[quote=PurpleAki]Ascari Ecosse.[/quote

Yep, and look at it now



A fair difference

[matrignano]

Pretty sure that's an Exige's (hence the name) central tub with reworked front and rear ends, a la Hennesey Venom (but worse).

[PurpleAki]

sundance002]urpleAki said:

Ascari Ecosse.[/quote

Yep, and look at it now



A fair difference

Totally different car, I'm afraid.

[wessexrfc]

andygtt said:

joust said:

Few things to answer some of the comments

Its an engineering prototype. Its not designed to reflect anything finished. The dials were indeed some that Lee had 'laying around'. We aren't fussed about it being 'pretty', we are proving some fundamental engineering points.
It's totally clean sheet design from the bottom up. Whilst the M12/400/14/15/600 experience clearly influenced him, just like anyone's prior work does their current work, it's not 'related' nor 'based on'.
The paint scheme is designed to be like it is. Ragging this around to test it to the limit takes its toll, and its designed to be easy to repaint/repair/not care
Yes, it has been heavily influenced by CAD. Having driven it above 150 it's very stable.
Styling a car like this will always divide people, we accept that.

J

Your saying all the right things

As a prototype using parts and experience you already have makes total sense, but there was zero info about it to so say what it was or wasn't as far as i could see... styling wise, its different and Ive just noticed the words 'track car' in the title so if thats the case then being different to the norm is a good thing. The styling certainly has potential if its tweaked and refined IMO.

It was at the Kit Car show... was there an indicator as to its marketing in there or was that just to let the Prototype break cover?

Certainly a good thing to have him building his own cars again... now its in the open make sure you get a proper working web site asap, people are going to want to follow progress and look up the facts.

Now get back to work and finish it so we can see the actual finished product

Haven't heard from Joust for a long time, good to hear your still alive and kicking!!!

When you say "we" do I take that that you are working together with Lee???

Would be great if you are as Lee has never made a great "frontman".

The second photo of inboard suspension looks great, the cars proportions look good, but not a fan of the batman style front and rear wings.

Lets be honest, anything to shakeup the Porsche/Mclaren hold has got to be a good thing and I admire Lee for having another go!!!!

@ 90K I would be very interested, do you/Lee plan on having any viewings???

[sundance002]

PurpleAki said:

sundance002]urpleAki said:

Ascari Ecosse.[/quote

Yep, and look at it now



A fair difference

Totally different car, I'm afraid.

Th

My point is, the 1998 99 Ecosi Ascari looks nothing like the prototype.
The pic above is still an Ascari albeit it's a modern day version,
So different car yes but still a progression from the pic above.
In simple terms if was not for that prototype the Ascari above would not exist
The same as if the M10 was not built ,neither would the M600 of been

Edited by sundance002 on Thursday 11th May 20:05

[sundance002]

PurpleAki said:

sundance002]urpleAki said:

Ascari Ecosse.[/quote

Yep, and look at it now



A fair difference

Totally different car, I'm afraid.

Th

My point is, the 1998 99 Ecosi Ascari looks nothing like the prototype.
The pic above is still an Ascari albeit it's a modern day version,
So different car yes but still a progression from the pic above.
In simple terms if was not for that prototype the Ascari above would not exist
The same as if the M10 was not built ,neither would the M600 of been

Edited by sundance002 on Thursday 11th May 20:30

[joust]

andygtt said:

As a prototype using parts and experience you already have makes total sense, but there was zero info about it to so say what it was or wasn't as far as i could see... styling wise, its different and Ive just noticed the words 'track car' in the title so if thats the case then being different to the norm is a good thing. The styling certainly has potential if its tweaked and refined IMO.

Deliberate choice to not have any information about it.

andygtt said:

It was at the Kit Car show... was there an indicator as to its marketing in there or was that just to let the Prototype break cover?

It was there because SSV was showing the Bug-R which is a kit car (and a hoot, 850kg, 136bhp) and we were asked by the organisers if they could show it and we agreed.

andygtt said:

Certainly a good thing to have him building his own cars again... now its in the open make sure you get a proper working web site asap, people are going to want to follow progress and look up the facts.
Now get back to work and finish it so we can see the actual finished product

A 'slick' website will come but there are many other priorities at the moment.

Edited by joust on Friday 12th May 09:05

[joust]

matrignano said:

Pretty sure that's an Exige's (hence the name) central tub with reworked front and rear ends, a la Hennesey Venom (but worse).

Wrong. It doesn't borrow anything chassis structural wise from anything else. It's a demonstration of some serious engineering techniques and capabilities which build on Lee's consultancy roles, so not directly aimed at end users, although there is an intention to make some available on a strictly limited basis to customers.

[joust]

wessexrfc said:

Haven't heard from Joust for a long time, good to hear your still alive and kicking!!!
When you say "we" do I take that that you are working together with Lee???
Would be great if you are as Lee has never made a great "frontman".
The second photo of inboard suspension looks great, the cars proportions look good, but not a fan of the batman style front and rear wings.
Lets be honest, anything to shakeup the Porsche/Mclaren hold has got to be a good thing and I admire Lee for having another go!!!!
@ 90K I would be very interested, do you/Lee plan on having any viewings???

The we is I am chairman and major shareholder of the company.
The syling as I said is not directly dictated by looks, but by some significant engineering principles that are being tested.
Viewings/drives etc. will be after we have finished the prototype to a stage where that makes sense.

[spoed]

Joust Will the chassis and body be built by Jimmy Price ? I heard rumors they were working on a supercar. Is this it ?

[F.C.]

spoed said:

Joust Will the chassis and body be built by Jimmy Price ? I heard rumors they were working on a supercar. Is this it ?

Mr Noble has a track record with Superformance and the product wasn't half bad wouldn't surprise me if you are correct.
I'm sure all will be revealed in time

[spoed]

F.C. said:

Mr Noble has a track record with Superformance and the product wasn't half bad wouldn't surprise me if you are correct.
I'm sure all will be revealed in time

Yip, it seems seems so. No denying it ,could well be admitting to it. At least Hi Tech automotive built all the Nobles past ,so should know their game. With the weak currency in South Africa it may be a worthy consideration. I guess we will find out at some point.
The best of luck to them. We could do with some fresh Nobles.

[AMG Merc]

Update below. Nice lineup photo - M400 at the rear (Justin's?). Also see M14 (or M15?) on the wall behind Teaboy.

This photo offers the best angle I've seen so far of the new beastie. They just need to burn those front wing extensions - IMHO...

http://mozomotors.com/2017/05/12/lee-noble-is-back...

[JayH888]

Can't wait to see the finished car. Sounds very promising

[F.C.]

AMG Merc said:

Update below. Nice lineup photo - M400 at the rear (Justin's?). Also see M14 (or M15?) on the wall behind Teaboy.

This photo offers the best angle I've seen so far of the new beastie. They just need to burn those front wing extensions - IMHO...

http://mozomotors.com/2017/05/12/lee-noble-is-back...

I keep looking at that front wheel arch and seeing a giant lobster claw!