RE: Land Rover 110 V8 Station Wagon | The Brave Pill

RE: Land Rover 110 V8 Station Wagon | The Brave Pill

Saturday 6th March 2021

Land Rover 110 V8 Station Wagon | The Brave Pill

Could this be the Defender of the faith?



Don't adjust your set. It is Saturday morning and you haven't slept through Friday; this is Brave Pill rather than Shed of the Week. You may well be feeling some doubt on that score looking at this week's offering, a 1988 Land Rover 110 Station Wagon that boasts more patina than many warzones. Yet even without a price tag £11,350 outside eligibility, this Landie wouldn't qualify for SOTW consideration: it last passed an MOT in 2007.

Yet these are strange times, especially when it comes to the values attached to the more obscure members of the 90/110/Defender clan. And as one of the rarest of the lot our Pill actually looks pretty fairly priced, especially when you consider the £195,000 - pre-VAT - that Land Rover Classic is asking for its officially sanctioned V8 Works Trophy restomod.

It wasn't always thus, of course. My greatest personal error of car buying probably dates from 2008 when I stood on the cusp of turning a long-running Defender obsession into actual ownership. After mounting a selection quest long and obsessive enough to earn a seat at the Round Table I had finally found my personal holy grail, a late 300 TDI 90 County Station Wagon in green with original graphics, 30-something thousand miles, one previous owner and a full main dealer history.


This was being sold by a well-known specialist for what looked like a very solid price at the time - I think it was £12,000 - underwritten by its near-perfect condition. I drove it, fell in love, made a not-quite offer that was politely rejected and went away to contemplate my next move. Three hours later I phoned back to agree to pay the full asking to be told I was 20 minutes too late: "but we'll call you if we get another one in." I'm still waiting.

Values for the more desirable Defenders started to rise a few years later, their upward trajectory accelerating when Land Rover announced the end of production. In the last couple of years things have started to get properly silly, especially for what are perceived to be more desirable variants alongside those that can be parallel imported into the U.S. under the 25-year-old Federal exemption. As a right-hand-drive 110 Station Wagon fitted with the very rare option of the factory V8, our Pill is about as unicorn-grade as coil-sprung Landies of this vintage get. Even if, to use a technical term, it is a complete heap. But what a gorgeous heap, one with its history quite literally written upon it.

Even Dr. Watson or Captain Hastings would have little difficulty deducing that our Pill formerly belonged to the Thanet Flying Club, which sign-wrote its details on both sides of the 110 in different colours. The dealer selling the car says it was used to ferry pupils out to aircraft at the former Manston Airport in Kent, although it seems likely to have also travelled further afield to accumulate the 103,000 miles in the twenty years before it seems to have been laid up.

Quite why a flying school would choose a V8 Defender rather than one of the much more prolific diesel-powered examples remains an unanswered question - possibly the need to keep distracting black clouds of particulates away from the runway. But we should give thanks that it did, because the V8 is the definite highlight for the clan. I got to drive a similarly aged example when Land Rover organised a send-off for the model range on Islay in 2015, and remember the wuffly, carb-fed V8 as being the highlight of the day. The 3.5-litre Rover V8 is in its gentlest state of tune, making relaxed 130hp, and fuel economy will rarely rise above the low teens. But it is a much nicer and more characterful powerplant than the boorish, boosty Turbo Diesel of the same era.


Dating from 1988 means our Pill isn't actually a Defender - the name was only introduced two years later to make the Landie look more butch when it was launched into the 'States - but this one is late enough to have the more robust five-speed manual gearbox in place of the four-speeder the 110 V8 was launched with. Geekier geeks that I will be able to glean more intelligence from the images, although from memory all versions had the '24V' warning light on the dash and this doesn't indicate fitment of 24 Volt electrics.

We have had a peek at our Pill's available MOT history - Enzo the hamster spent a day guessing the digits missing from the reg plate - but as this only just runs into the digital era it doesn't report anything of note beyond a failure for a non-functioning indicator and broken light switch back in 2006. The pictures show unsurprising evidence of rust in the windscreen scuttle, but for any 110 of this vintage the more pressing question will be how the chassis is holding up. The good news is that parts support is effectively total, and any Land Rover can be Trigger's Broomed to pretty much whatever state you'd like it to be in. But any vehicle that has been off the road for this long is going to need plenty of fettling, and for a Land Rover that is doubly true.

This is something the selling dealer is obviously keen to help with, the advert saying the 110 is available for "full restoration to bespoke specification." That is almost certainly a prediction of its ultimate fate, one that is likely to see the sort of visual transformation Tim Shaw pulls a sheet off. But if I was lucky enough to have the cash to buy and legalize it my instruction would be a simple one: sort everything mechanical but leave the body as-is. It could definitely hold its own next to either a new Defender V8 or a gleaming Works Trophy.


See the original advert here




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Discussion

Gunso

Original Poster:

1,086 posts

250 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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“Triggers brooded”!

Ace :-)

Rob-s5mok

92 posts

100 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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A bit like the dot-com bubble, the asking price of this heap is an indicator that recession is just around the corner.

The spinner of plates

17,686 posts

200 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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I know some people love them, but they’re lost on me.

And at that price it all looks like a strange insiders joke that I don’t understand.

Gareth9702

370 posts

132 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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Land Rovers have a purpose in the countryside. Beyond that? Agricultural and unrewarding to drive. The price seems to be the starting point of a big spend on this one.

Bill

52,687 posts

255 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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The spinner of plates said:
I know some people love them, but they’re lost on me.

And at that price it all looks like a strange insiders joke that I don’t understand.
I love them and really want a V8 one and am gutted by the bubble. The world's gone mad. yes

Not convinced it's that brave, parts are cheap and easily sourced and it'll keep its value as long as the bubble lasts. I guess the only question is how many of those cheap parts add you need.

EarlOfHazard

3,603 posts

158 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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Bill said:
The spinner of plates said:
I know some people love them, but they’re lost on me.

And at that price it all looks like a strange insiders joke that I don’t understand.
I love them and really want a V8 one and am gutted by the bubble. The world's gone mad. yes

Not convinced it's that brave, parts are cheap and easily sourced and it'll keep its value as long as the bubble lasts. I guess the only question is how many of those cheap parts add you need.
Back in about 2016-2017 there was l lovely 1986 Land Rover 90 CSW with factory 3.5 v8. It was about £7k
Last year I saw one for £25k....

Mammasaid

3,821 posts

97 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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Bil said:
I guess the only question is how many of those cheap parts add you need.
From the article, the correct answer is probably all of them.

Bill

52,687 posts

255 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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EarlOfHazard said:
Back in about 2016-2017 there was l lovely 1986 Land Rover 90 CSW with factory 3.5 v8. It was about £7k
Last year I saw one for £25k....
Don't! I was looking at them 10 years ago, but 3 kids in car seats meant my sensible head won and I got a D2. cry

Twinair

657 posts

142 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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A quick vacuum on the inside, foamy Meguires wash on the outside, a spin over to ‘City-MOT’s’ - the one behind every retail park ‘back access road - by the city tip’ with the 2 rottweilers on chains out the front, splash of Auto-glym tyre shine & onto the pitch by 3:30 pm the same day at £24999 - luvly jubbly!

oilit

2,623 posts

178 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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somehow I feel in the real world of sensibility this is worth about 1/2 the asking price in its current state (to me at least).

Afterall, 3k for a galvanised chassis plus fitting, means by the time you have messed around with all the other crap that will need sorting 'whilst you're there' your close to 20k all in....




Dombilano

1,130 posts

55 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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I've an old fridge freezer in the garage, maybe I should put some wheels on it and charge 20k for it.

danorman777

20 posts

111 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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I learnt to fly with TG aviation in the early 80s! Ted Girdler ex RAF and his wife ran it and they were brilliant. If I had the space I would love to buy and renovate this as my weekend retirement project.

RazerSauber

2,272 posts

60 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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Over 12 grand for a rotten, knackered Landy. Alright it's a 110 but that appears to be the only desirable feature.

I don't get the fascination with these. From what I read, they're no good to drive, not particularly reliable, uncomfortable, uneconomical and slow. What on earth would possess someone to buy one? Surely the Discovery is the comfier, more plush version of a Defender which would seem to suit people much more?

rxe

6,700 posts

103 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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There is definitely an insane bubble on these. I bought a Wolf from the military auctions 6 months ago - £3.5k. A similar set of vehicles went yesterday for 7K - I was thinking of getting a Wolf hard top to go with the soft top, so was a bit gutted.

My towing truck is a 4.6V8 defender that started life as a Tdi - I can confirm that a 20 year old Land Rover needs a shed load of welding. Galv chassis and bulkhead is about 4 grand for both, + quite a lot of fitting. Mechanical bits are as cheap as chips.

SirTK

210 posts

135 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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Gareth9702 said:
Land Rovers have a purpose in the countryside. Beyond that? Agricultural and unrewarding to drive. The price seems to be the starting point of a big spend on this one.
From my time in Australia I was told they weren't up to agricultural work so the "cockies" all bought Landcruisers.

The spinner of plates

17,686 posts

200 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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SirTK said:
Gareth9702 said:
Land Rovers have a purpose in the countryside. Beyond that? Agricultural and unrewarding to drive. The price seems to be the starting point of a big spend on this one.
From my time in Australia I was told they weren't up to agricultural work so the "cockies" all bought Landcruisers.
I worked in Oz.
The locals would say “if you want to go into the bush, take a Land Rover, but if you want to come back out again, take a land cruiser”.

J4CKO

41,477 posts

200 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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Says £12,850 on the ad ?

Not had an MOT since 2007, guessing they arent running it through one, after 14 years I suspect it will fly through, maybe needing a bulb or two biggrin

Its a Landrover shaped pile of scrap until its got an MOT on, its a 33 year old one thats not seen a garage in 14 years.

DonkeyApple

55,159 posts

169 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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I guess the question of value is only going to be defined by the state of the chassis and bulkhead. If those are solid then you've got a V8 camper that can be done in a shed with a pretty simple selection of tools. If the chassis and bulkhead are shot then given that you can obtain a V8 drivetrain from a Disco then I struggle to see what value is there.

Bill

52,687 posts

255 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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The spinner of plates said:
I worked in Oz.
Toyota marketing dept would say “if you want to go into the bush, take a Land Rover, but if you want to come back out again, take a land cruiser”.
EFA wink

DonkeyApple

55,159 posts

169 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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SirTK said:
Gareth9702 said:
Land Rovers have a purpose in the countryside. Beyond that? Agricultural and unrewarding to drive. The price seems to be the starting point of a big spend on this one.
From my time in Australia I was told they weren't up to agricultural work so the "cockies" all bought Landcruisers.
They were certainly eventually superseded but these are toys now and what makes them such brilliant toys is their total antithesis of modern motoring. Being able to duck out of the modern world for a few hours here and there without have to go somewhere like Norfolk is fun.