Chris Harris discussing new Tesla Model S 'Plaid'
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IndX2vzdDEM&ab...
Chris and Jack did another sit down vid talking about Tesla and the future of electric cars which I found quite interesting. The new one is now supposed to do 0-62 in under 2 seconds and have a 500+ mile range which honestly scares me. I understand that a lot of us here enjoy throwing high HP cars up the road from time to time, but how anyone (who can afford it) is seemingly allowed to just mope around in a 2 tonne, 1,100bhp self driving car that can do 0-62 in under 2 seconds just seems a bit crazy to me. Porsche seem to have it sussed with the new Cross Turismo though.
Also, here's 'that' steering wheel:
Chris and Jack did another sit down vid talking about Tesla and the future of electric cars which I found quite interesting. The new one is now supposed to do 0-62 in under 2 seconds and have a 500+ mile range which honestly scares me. I understand that a lot of us here enjoy throwing high HP cars up the road from time to time, but how anyone (who can afford it) is seemingly allowed to just mope around in a 2 tonne, 1,100bhp self driving car that can do 0-62 in under 2 seconds just seems a bit crazy to me. Porsche seem to have it sussed with the new Cross Turismo though.
Also, here's 'that' steering wheel:
Edited by pigeyman on Monday 29th March 16:59
Edited by pigeyman on Monday 29th March 17:00
Hardly accessible to a normal person though, is it? Isn't it almost six figures?
I see it every day now though, Teslas, Polestars and Taycans - they just take off at low speed. But they are 4WD and also I imagine setup to understeer. It is amusing watching people underestimate a BMW i3, too.
I see it every day now though, Teslas, Polestars and Taycans - they just take off at low speed. But they are 4WD and also I imagine setup to understeer. It is amusing watching people underestimate a BMW i3, too.
thelostboy said:
Hardly accessible to a normal person though, is it? Isn't it almost six figures?
I see it every day now though, Teslas, Polestars and Taycans - they just take off at low speed. But they are 4WD and also I imagine setup to understeer. It is amusing watching people underestimate a BMW i3, too.
£110k for the low rangeI see it every day now though, Teslas, Polestars and Taycans - they just take off at low speed. But they are 4WD and also I imagine setup to understeer. It is amusing watching people underestimate a BMW i3, too.
£130k for the long range.
Performance is the same.
Lincsls1 said:
Who is? And to what?
With technology being as fantastic as it is, why aren't cars being limited to the speed limit of the road section they are on?
The EU and Uk are adopting it too, New cars getting type approval after May 2022 have to have them and models type approved before that but still being made have to have it by 2024.With technology being as fantastic as it is, why aren't cars being limited to the speed limit of the road section they are on?
If you wonder why lots of cars are getting traffic sign recognition built in, wonder no more, it’s mandated to bleep and flash over the speed limit until you or the car reduce speed back down to or below the signed limit.
Welcome to the future
Lincsls1 said:
Who is? And to what?
With technology being as fantastic as it is, why aren't cars being limited to the speed limit of the road section they are on?
A credible source, the RACWith technology being as fantastic as it is, why aren't cars being limited to the speed limit of the road section they are on?
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/man...
Smiljan said:
The EU and Uk are adopting it too, New cars getting type approval after May 2022 have to have them and models type approved before that but still being made have to have it by 2024.
If you wonder why lots of cars are getting traffic sign recognition built in, wonder no more, it’s mandated to bleep and flash over the speed limit until you or the car reduce speed back down to or below the signed limit.
Welcome to the future
Don't worry, there will be an off button I'm sure.If you wonder why lots of cars are getting traffic sign recognition built in, wonder no more, it’s mandated to bleep and flash over the speed limit until you or the car reduce speed back down to or below the signed limit.
Welcome to the future
LordFlathead said:
thelostboy said:
Hardly accessible to a normal person though, is it? Isn't it almost six figures?
I see it every day now though, Teslas, Polestars and Taycans - they just take off at low speed. But they are 4WD and also I imagine setup to understeer. It is amusing watching people underestimate a BMW i3, too.
£110k for the low rangeI see it every day now though, Teslas, Polestars and Taycans - they just take off at low speed. But they are 4WD and also I imagine setup to understeer. It is amusing watching people underestimate a BMW i3, too.
£130k for the long range.
Performance is the same.
NMNeil said:
Lincsls1 said:
Who is? And to what?
With technology being as fantastic as it is, why aren't cars being limited to the speed limit of the road section they are on?
A credible source, the RACWith technology being as fantastic as it is, why aren't cars being limited to the speed limit of the road section they are on?
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/man...
SWoll said:
Always a big Harris fan in the days of CHOC but since signing for the BBC he's turned into budget Clarkson with non of the charisma. Shame.
The git recently had a go at EVs on twitter over Cobalt. From a phone that uses cobalt, whilst burning through thousands of litres of petrol processed using Cobalt.Somebody says something about an EV you disagree with => he's a to55er
Somebody says something about an EV you agree with => he's an insightful god
A classic example is Sandy Munroe was initially criticised for his reviews because he diss'd Tesla. now he's clocked he can make money with his youtube channel saying nice things and he's instantly held up as an automotive god by some
What Harris likes about a car you can't simply write down as a lap time, he's made that perfectly clear over the years. If you don't get what he's about then you don't enjoy his type of driving. But take the lap time against the BMW M3, the guy who set the lap times span out in the Tesla before he managed to set a time on track and thought is was much harder to drive on the limit than the BMW. Which car is the more rewarding car on track based on that assessment? Depends if you like going backwards across grass at high speed I guess
Harris has also talked many times about his camel sized bladder so stopping isn't a thing he does.
The battery in the Plaid is almost identical to the outgoing Performance model in numbers. The tri motor setup is boosting the 0-60 time although has anybody actually ever seen the claims been achieved? The much bigger range Plaid+ with the new battery is not until sometime next year. They just need to work out how to make one, same as the roadster. If and when they do then it will be amazing, but until then it might as well be a postit on the office wall under "still to do" next to FSD.
Somebody says something about an EV you agree with => he's an insightful god
A classic example is Sandy Munroe was initially criticised for his reviews because he diss'd Tesla. now he's clocked he can make money with his youtube channel saying nice things and he's instantly held up as an automotive god by some
What Harris likes about a car you can't simply write down as a lap time, he's made that perfectly clear over the years. If you don't get what he's about then you don't enjoy his type of driving. But take the lap time against the BMW M3, the guy who set the lap times span out in the Tesla before he managed to set a time on track and thought is was much harder to drive on the limit than the BMW. Which car is the more rewarding car on track based on that assessment? Depends if you like going backwards across grass at high speed I guess
Harris has also talked many times about his camel sized bladder so stopping isn't a thing he does.
The battery in the Plaid is almost identical to the outgoing Performance model in numbers. The tri motor setup is boosting the 0-60 time although has anybody actually ever seen the claims been achieved? The much bigger range Plaid+ with the new battery is not until sometime next year. They just need to work out how to make one, same as the roadster. If and when they do then it will be amazing, but until then it might as well be a postit on the office wall under "still to do" next to FSD.
jjwilde said:
That is actually pretty wild. I agree with it generally & I can see what they are trying to do, but I can also think of situations where it would be potentially bad.
To begin with you will be able to press the throttle harder and override the system, but that option will be removed at a later date.Heres Johnny said:
Somebody says something about an EV you disagree with => he's a to55er
Somebody says something about an EV you agree with => he's an insightful god
A classic example is Sandy Munroe was initially criticised for his reviews because he diss'd Tesla. now he's clocked he can make money with his youtube channel saying nice things and he's instantly held up as an automotive god by some
What Harris likes about a car you can't simply write down as a lap time, he's made that perfectly clear over the years. If you don't get what he's about then you don't enjoy his type of driving. But take the lap time against the BMW M3, the guy who set the lap times span out in the Tesla before he managed to set a time on track and thought is was much harder to drive on the limit than the BMW. Which car is the more rewarding car on track based on that assessment? Depends if you like going backwards across grass at high speed I guess
Harris has also talked many times about his camel sized bladder so stopping isn't a thing he does.
The battery in the Plaid is almost identical to the outgoing Performance model in numbers. The tri motor setup is boosting the 0-60 time although has anybody actually ever seen the claims been achieved? The much bigger range Plaid+ with the new battery is not until sometime next year. They just need to work out how to make one, same as the roadster. If and when they do then it will be amazing, but until then it might as well be a postit on the office wall under "still to do" next to FSD.
His opinions flip flop dependent on mood and he makes regular statements that are nonsense. His latest during his EV buying guide was that the Taycan is great but unfortunately costs well over £100k, despite it starting at £71k and the 4S they had as an example costing £83k. It's just lazy soundbite stuff to pander to his usual crowd who love hearing it.Somebody says something about an EV you agree with => he's an insightful god
A classic example is Sandy Munroe was initially criticised for his reviews because he diss'd Tesla. now he's clocked he can make money with his youtube channel saying nice things and he's instantly held up as an automotive god by some
What Harris likes about a car you can't simply write down as a lap time, he's made that perfectly clear over the years. If you don't get what he's about then you don't enjoy his type of driving. But take the lap time against the BMW M3, the guy who set the lap times span out in the Tesla before he managed to set a time on track and thought is was much harder to drive on the limit than the BMW. Which car is the more rewarding car on track based on that assessment? Depends if you like going backwards across grass at high speed I guess
Harris has also talked many times about his camel sized bladder so stopping isn't a thing he does.
The battery in the Plaid is almost identical to the outgoing Performance model in numbers. The tri motor setup is boosting the 0-60 time although has anybody actually ever seen the claims been achieved? The much bigger range Plaid+ with the new battery is not until sometime next year. They just need to work out how to make one, same as the roadster. If and when they do then it will be amazing, but until then it might as well be a postit on the office wall under "still to do" next to FSD.
A very good friend has a Model S P90 something if I remember rightly. He loves it to bits and it is jolly quick, but I don’t think I’ve ever been in a car that leaves me so utterly cold and almost disinterested (ok, maybe a Vauxhall Mokka).
I don’t dislike EV’s. I had a Zoe quite a few years back and, unreliable as it was, the driving experience was quite nice. They work as a runaround, an appliance. What I don’t get is the £100k 2-3 secs to 60 stuff.
I don’t dislike EV’s. I had a Zoe quite a few years back and, unreliable as it was, the driving experience was quite nice. They work as a runaround, an appliance. What I don’t get is the £100k 2-3 secs to 60 stuff.
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