Re : Toyota GR Yaris - official!

[Dave Hedgehog]

Shappers24 said:

Also 5 year warranty from new, so even a 4-5 year car would be a pretty safe bet in a few years time...

Much excitement.

and delivery should miss the GPS speed limiter and speed logging system coming to new cars soon

[Wil5]

Thank goodness for Ott Tänak winning that WR Championship for them.

[Sport220]

Finally, a lightweight 4WD hot hatch

A shame everything's a 4 door today

[GM182]

I haven't had a proper small hatchback since a brace of Clios 172/182 - but they were lots of smiles per mile and as someone said above, this looks like it will be a riot. I hope the ride/handling balance is good. Could be right up my street.

[Krikkit]

hughcam said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

and that's a worry, reading more its a very limited number run proper old school Homologation special

the ahole flippers will be out in force trying to get 80k for them no doubt ...

Where did you read that? Hopefully its not as I will buy one!

They've already said it won't be a limited run - it'll be a serial production model.

[Gary C]

Dave Hedgehog said:

and that's a worry, reading more its a very limited number run proper old school Homologation special

the ahole flippers will be out in force trying to get 80k for them no doubt ...

Can't stand the PC ahole word. Say it properly, loud and proud ---- ahole !!!!!!!

[WCZ]

Rsx Boy said:

Is it powerful enough?????

not quite but I do like the car and the ability to easily tune it to 300hp cheaply makes it very tempting depending on price

[croyde]

spikyone said:

I can't remember the last time the PH forum was so unanimous in its praise of a newly-announced car!

Suzuki Jimny
Dacia Duster

That's why I love PH.

[Martingale]

DD3566 said:

Chris-xzk0j said:

Never thought I would see the day I got excited about a Yaris but I will definitely be paying this some serious consideration as my first ever brand new car...fingers crossed it’s kept below £35k, hopefully closer to £30k.

£27,700 according to Autocar

There is ZERO chance it will cost us £27,700 here in the UK brand new, you can quote me on it.

Copying and pasting my reply on the other thread:
The performance version in Japan is 4.56 million yen which translates to ~ £31,000

Based on that here's a method to indicate how much it could be in the UK:
A brand new Toyota Supra in Japan is 4,990,741 yen which translates to £34,800. In the UK it starts at £52,700

That's the sort of difference we're dealing with. In the case of the Supra it's 51% more expensive for us in the UK. So applying the percentage nets us £46,000. While I don't think it'll be that much it won't be far off.
I'll be surprise if this Yaris (performance version) comes in below £40,000

[sharkattack]

Don't they have to sell 25000 of the things according to the rules? They won't be that hard to get.

[Quadcamboy]

V8 FOU said:

I really love that!

Hell. I'm getting excited by a Yaris. Never thought I'd see the day!

Ditto

[Dave Hedgehog]

Krikkit said:

They've already said it won't be a limited run - it'll be a serial production model.

yeah, on checking again i think the initial introduction model will be limited

[InitialDave]

Martingale said:

So applying the percentage nets us £46,000. While I don't think it'll be that much it won't be far off.
I'll be surprise if this Yaris (performance version) comes in below £40,000

Probably the nearest direct equivalent of the 90s Jap performance glory days was the Sunny GTi-R, which was £20k 30 years ago, equivalent to £45k today.

[TWPC]

Dave Hedgehog said:

and that's a worry, reading more its a very limited number run proper old school Homologation special

the ahole flippers will be out in force trying to get 80k for them no doubt ...

In their test drive of the prototype, Autocar said the following about Toyota's plans for production levels:
"It feels a sort of successor to the Yaris GRMN, but its production run will be a lot bigger, moving into five figures."

Hopefully there will be enough supply to discourage the flippers, but if it as good as it sounds that supply might have to be substantial!

I really want this... Small, light, turbo'ed, 4wd rally hatchback with custom bodywork and a manual box benchmarked against the Integrale among others (Car Magazine: "Saito says all-wheel-drive cars as varied as the Audi S1, Ford Focus RS, Subaru Impreza and even the classic Lancia Delta Integrale were examined as the GR engineers worked on the Yaris. More prosaically, some of the hardware is shared with the RAV4."). As others say, if it has rear seats, it might have hit the nail on the head...

There's another encouraging comment from the Car article on its drive of the prototype regarding the lack of modes:

"The rally team also had a lot of input into the four-wheel-drive system. It has three modes: Normal is 60 per cent front, 40 per cent rear; Sport is 30 per cent front, 70 per cent rear (for on-road fun); Track is 50:50, for gravel and snow use as well as on track.
There are no other modes for the driver to choose between: suspension, throttle and steering response are all fixed."

Hooray!

Will the 1.6 litre engine the biggest 3 cyl on the market in terms of capacity?

The only other new cars that have really excited me like this in the past couple of years have been the Suzuki Jimny and Alpine A110. The Japanese seem to be doing more right than much of the rest of the car world.

[Roma101]

spikyone said:

croyde said:

It'll be the most nicked with insurance to add.

I do like it though.

It doesn't have a badge that would appeal to your average score. I think you'd be fine.

Looks bloody awesome though, doesn't it? I can't remember the last time the PH forum was so unanimous in its praise of a newly-announced car!

Indeed. I think Toyota should get the 2020 Nobel Peace Prize for making this car.

[Roma101]

[/quote] The Japanese seem to be doing more right than much of the rest of the car world.
[/quote]

Apart from arresting their bosses

[drmotorsport]

Looks promising. Shame all that development has gone into it and they've cocked up by putting the controls on the left! Or has Japan started driving on the right of the road now?

[Terminator X]

Awesome, well played Toyota for building it. Looks great in white which is the Japanese racing colour afaik.

TX.

[TWPC]

Interesting to compare this new 3 door, turbo'ed, rallying hatchback with Toyota's last equivalent, the Celica GT-Four ST 205 from the mid 1990s.

GR Yaris data first, then the Celica:

Power: 257hp 239hp
Torque: 265lb ft 223lb ft
Weight: 1,280kg 1,440kg
Length: 3,995mm 4,420mm
Width: 1,805mm 1,750mm
Height: 1,460mm 1,305mm

GR Yaris is more powerful, lighter, taller!!?

Celica stats from here: http://gtfours.co.uk/stuff/facts/205/facts.htm#Spe...

P.S. The Yaris DOES have a rear seat. The specs on the Toyota press release state it can accommodate four occupants.

See here: https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/toyota/30976389....

[C.MW]

Just the cost of coming up with those bespoke body and chassis would already be something no other manufacturer could swallow. Add the cost incurred for developing the bespoke engine and drivetrain to it and it's easy to realise Toyota/Lexus is serious about catering for the enthusiasts like no one else. It also makes sense Lexus is one of a very few that keeps NA V8 engines alive. All of these add up to evidence that they care for us.