Re : Toyota GR Yaris - official!
Discussion
RB Will said:
coded2112 said:
Just seen a GR Circuit Pack for sale on Autotrader for £44,995!!
Really is anyone going to pay 10k ott!
If I had loads of money and couldn't be bothered to wait a year to see what the fuss is all about I would. It not a lot of money, essentially disposable to some people. Not me, but a few people I know. Really is anyone going to pay 10k ott!
PhilPol said:
No, it doesn't accomplish the same thing. A LIM function allows you to bomb around town (or anywhere) without going over the set speed, irrespective of other traffic.
Adaptive cruise stops you crashing, LIM stops you getting speeding tickets.
That’s your brain and right foot. It’s really not that hard to do. Adaptive cruise stops you crashing, LIM stops you getting speeding tickets.
Just seen my first GR Yaris (white, circuit pack) in the flesh parked up at Tesco near Middlesbrough.
It looked great and noticeably purposeful even from a good distance away. Went in for a closer look and then realised there were 2 people sat in it. If anyone on here saw a wierd guy in a Monaro rubber necking at them then that was me.
Roll on June!!
It looked great and noticeably purposeful even from a good distance away. Went in for a closer look and then realised there were 2 people sat in it. If anyone on here saw a wierd guy in a Monaro rubber necking at them then that was me.
Roll on June!!
damolong said:
Just to be clear, when I say speed limiter I am not meaning any limit Toyota may have put on top speed.
I am talking about an electronic function in the car that allows the driver to set a maximum speed, temporarily, above which the car will not go. Very handy for 50mph limits on the motorway and common on many cars these days.
Anyone know definitively?
O/T but coming soon!I am talking about an electronic function in the car that allows the driver to set a maximum speed, temporarily, above which the car will not go. Very handy for 50mph limits on the motorway and common on many cars these days.
Anyone know definitively?
"Mandatory speed limiters to be fitted to all new UK cars after 2022
Sitting among a range of new safety features due for all new cars, the mandatory speed limiters come as part of a proposal from the European Transport Safety Council, recently approved by a group of key MEPs. Regardless of whether the UK is in the EU, it has been confirmed that the UK will receive the technology.
Dubbed Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA), the limiters will use GPS data and/or traffic sign recognition cameras to determine the speed limit of the road a vehicle is travelling on. Engine power will then be limited to match this, preventing the car from exceeding the speed limit. It will be possible to override the system by pushing hard on the throttle, however the system will be engaged every time a car is started.
If you think you can simply keep pressing a little harder on the throttle to break through the system, think again. ETSC also states that: ‘If the driver continues to drive above the speed limit for several seconds, the system should sound a warning for a few seconds and display a visual warning until the vehicle is operating at or below the speed limit again.’
A feature already seen on models such as the new Ford Focus and set to be imposed on all new Volvos from next year [2020], the speed limiters will come alongside data loggers, autonomous emergency braking systems, lane keep assist, driver fatigue detection systems and other safety measures. It’s not all quite as bad as you may think, as the European Transport and Safety Council admits the system will come with a full on/off switch initially. This is only “to aid public acceptance at introduction” however, and so it’s likely that it intends to push for even stricter rules in the future, meaning a permanent system may come into force.
The systems will be required on all new models given ‘type’ approval from May 2022, with all models on the market before that date required to adopt the tech by May 2024. With the recent confirmation of the UK’s adoption of the technology came interesting news from the Department for Transport, stating that it expects limiters "to give drivers feedback when the speed limit is exceeded rather than limiting the speed" with a reduction in engine power as previously understood."
TX.
"Just seen my first GR Yaris (white, circuit pack) in the flesh parked up at Tesco near Middlesbrough.
It looked great and noticeably purposeful even from a good distance away. Went in for a closer look and then realised there were 2 people sat in it. If anyone on here saw a wierd guy in a Monaro rubber necking at them then that was me."
That just goes to show that the GR Yaris is not the most discrete car to get a handy in.
It looked great and noticeably purposeful even from a good distance away. Went in for a closer look and then realised there were 2 people sat in it. If anyone on here saw a wierd guy in a Monaro rubber necking at them then that was me."
That just goes to show that the GR Yaris is not the most discrete car to get a handy in.
Terminator X said:
damolong said:
Just to be clear, when I say speed limiter I am not meaning any limit Toyota may have put on top speed.
I am talking about an electronic function in the car that allows the driver to set a maximum speed, temporarily, above which the car will not go. Very handy for 50mph limits on the motorway and common on many cars these days.
Anyone know definitively?
O/T but coming soon!I am talking about an electronic function in the car that allows the driver to set a maximum speed, temporarily, above which the car will not go. Very handy for 50mph limits on the motorway and common on many cars these days.
Anyone know definitively?
"Mandatory speed limiters to be fitted to all new UK cars after 2022
Sitting among a range of new safety features due for all new cars, the mandatory speed limiters come as part of a proposal from the European Transport Safety Council, recently approved by a group of key MEPs. Regardless of whether the UK is in the EU, it has been confirmed that the UK will receive the technology.
Dubbed Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA), the limiters will use GPS data and/or traffic sign recognition cameras to determine the speed limit of the road a vehicle is travelling on. Engine power will then be limited to match this, preventing the car from exceeding the speed limit. It will be possible to override the system by pushing hard on the throttle, however the system will be engaged every time a car is started.
If you think you can simply keep pressing a little harder on the throttle to break through the system, think again. ETSC also states that: ‘If the driver continues to drive above the speed limit for several seconds, the system should sound a warning for a few seconds and display a visual warning until the vehicle is operating at or below the speed limit again.’
A feature already seen on models such as the new Ford Focus and set to be imposed on all new Volvos from next year [2020], the speed limiters will come alongside data loggers, autonomous emergency braking systems, lane keep assist, driver fatigue detection systems and other safety measures. It’s not all quite as bad as you may think, as the European Transport and Safety Council admits the system will come with a full on/off switch initially. This is only “to aid public acceptance at introduction” however, and so it’s likely that it intends to push for even stricter rules in the future, meaning a permanent system may come into force.
The systems will be required on all new models given ‘type’ approval from May 2022, with all models on the market before that date required to adopt the tech by May 2024. With the recent confirmation of the UK’s adoption of the technology came interesting news from the Department for Transport, stating that it expects limiters "to give drivers feedback when the speed limit is exceeded rather than limiting the speed" with a reduction in engine power as previously understood."
TX.
Ron will be along shortly to tell me I shouldn’t be exceeding the speed limit anyway so it’s not an issue.
I’m already apprehensive about things such as Lane keep assist being on by default (which almost every reviewer comments on). But I think the guys on the GRY forum have worked out a way of disabling this. Along with the two separate digital engine and road noise systems.
I’m not completely against all technology in cars and I’m looking forward to having the G-meter and other telemetry bits, along with Apple CarPlay. What I don’t appreciate, at any point, is being told how to drive by my car. f
k right off with that, I’d rather cycle or walk.MiseryStreak said:
Jesus Christ. Thanks TX, I hadn’t seen any of that anywhere. I think that has confirmed that buying my first and last new car in 2021 is absolutely the right thing to do.
Ron will be along shortly to tell me I shouldn’t be exceeding the speed limit anyway so it’s not an issue.
I’m already apprehensive about things such as Lane keep assist being on by default (which almost every reviewer comments on). But I think the guys on the GRY forum have worked out a way of disabling this. Along with the two separate digital engine and road noise systems.
I’m not completely against all technology in cars and I’m looking forward to having the G-meter and other telemetry bits, along with Apple CarPlay. What I don’t appreciate, at any point, is being told how to drive by my car. fk right off with that, I’d rather cycle or walk.
At a guess lane assist being on must be for something like getting a good NCAP rating same with stop start. Ron will be along shortly to tell me I shouldn’t be exceeding the speed limit anyway so it’s not an issue.
I’m already apprehensive about things such as Lane keep assist being on by default (which almost every reviewer comments on). But I think the guys on the GRY forum have worked out a way of disabling this. Along with the two separate digital engine and road noise systems.
I’m not completely against all technology in cars and I’m looking forward to having the G-meter and other telemetry bits, along with Apple CarPlay. What I don’t appreciate, at any point, is being told how to drive by my car. f
k right off with that, I’d rather cycle or walk.So was filling up today and parked up behind a nice Renault alpine in blue. They really do look great. Next thing an older chap wanted to chat about my car and not the alpine which surprised me
had seen my car parked by my house and was excited to know if it was as good as they said it was apparently he’s told his daughter all about the specs. If it wasn’t for covid I’d have let him in for a play to find out for himself. Pappyjohn said:
"Just seen my first GR Yaris (white, circuit pack) in the flesh parked up at Tesco near Middlesbrough.
It looked great and noticeably purposeful even from a good distance away. Went in for a closer look and then realised there were 2 people sat in it. If anyone on here saw a wierd guy in a Monaro rubber necking at them then that was me."
That just goes to show that the GR Yaris is not the most discrete car to get a handy in.
Depends on the car park. Discretion, or lack thereof, could be a good thing, or a bad thing.It looked great and noticeably purposeful even from a good distance away. Went in for a closer look and then realised there were 2 people sat in it. If anyone on here saw a wierd guy in a Monaro rubber necking at them then that was me."
That just goes to show that the GR Yaris is not the most discrete car to get a handy in.
Edited by PhilPol on Thursday 4th March 14:30
ecsrobin said:
PhilPol said:
No, it doesn't accomplish the same thing. A LIM function allows you to bomb around town (or anywhere) without going over the set speed, irrespective of other traffic.
Adaptive cruise stops you crashing, LIM stops you getting speeding tickets.
That’s your brain and right foot. It’s really not that hard to do. Adaptive cruise stops you crashing, LIM stops you getting speeding tickets.
MiseryStreak said:
Ron will be along shortly to tell me I shouldn’t be exceeding the speed limit anyway so it’s not an issue.
I clearly got to you didn't I. 
The thing is I honestly wasn't having a go at you and I never once told you not to speed, but then when you kept it going...let's say you made a poor choice of words which did not reflect well on you - the part about not knowing what speed you are doing because you don't drive around looking at your speedometer.
ecsrobin said:
At a guess lane assist being on must be for something like getting a good NCAP rating same with stop start.
So was filling up today and parked up behind a nice Renault alpine in blue. They really do look great. Next thing an older chap wanted to chat about my car and not the alpine which surprised me had seen my car parked by my house and was excited to know if it was as good as they said it was apparently he’s told his daughter all about the specs. If it wasn’t for covid I’d have let him in for a play to find out for himself.
You are quite a trusting person to let an older bloke in for a bit of a play you randomly metSo was filling up today and parked up behind a nice Renault alpine in blue. They really do look great. Next thing an older chap wanted to chat about my car and not the alpine which surprised me
had seen my car parked by my house and was excited to know if it was as good as they said it was apparently he’s told his daughter all about the specs. If it wasn’t for covid I’d have let him in for a play to find out for himself. TramWrecker said:
You are quite a trusting person to let an older bloke in for a bit of a play you randomly met
Cars are to be enjoyed, their a tool whilst I like mine to look nice I get far more enjoyment from using it, abusing it and if it also means letting someone experience the enjoyment I get then why not?ecsrobin said:
Cars are to be enjoyed, their a tool whilst I like mine to look nice I get far more enjoyment from using it, abusing it and if it also means letting someone experience the enjoyment I get then why not?
Oh I agree, I'm just replaying that situation you described except I'm left standing at the service station like a dork while that other person with a big grin drives off into the sunset.Hi all
I had booked a test drive in one pre latest lockdown but that got canned with lockdown rules and I spoke to the dealer today and although i can't test drive one he has has a slot come up for one for a May deliver (assume a cancelation) he says other than that the next date for delivery is march 22 so maybe that answers some questions about availability?
Never bought a new car before mainly due to wanting to avoid massive depreciation and also not being able to take new cars on track and voiding warranty.
Toyota's track friendly warranty and potentially low deprecation appeal for sure.
Anybody had one of these on track yet? Be interested to see how it fairs and also i know it is guess work what are people guessing these will be worth in 3-4 years time with 24k on them?
many thanks
Paul
I had booked a test drive in one pre latest lockdown but that got canned with lockdown rules and I spoke to the dealer today and although i can't test drive one he has has a slot come up for one for a May deliver (assume a cancelation) he says other than that the next date for delivery is march 22 so maybe that answers some questions about availability?
Never bought a new car before mainly due to wanting to avoid massive depreciation and also not being able to take new cars on track and voiding warranty.
Toyota's track friendly warranty and potentially low deprecation appeal for sure.
Anybody had one of these on track yet? Be interested to see how it fairs and also i know it is guess work what are people guessing these will be worth in 3-4 years time with 24k on them?
many thanks
Paul
ecsrobin said:
Nope as my brain and right foot no when and when not to go fast 
I did a Zoom speed course last Tuesday.I had been overtaking a Tesla on the southbound A1 which gradually accelerated as I was passing ... so I went a little faster. As I checked over my left shoulder to pull in and looked back I saw a Police camera van on the bridge of the Boroghbridge junction around half a mile away so I braked quite hard in front of the Tesla (who knew what he had done) and was doing 70mph at least a quarter of mile before passing under the camera van ... I got an 80mph in a 70mph on a very quiet motorway.
Maybe the Tesla driver got away with it, but if speeding is a road safety issue, this was certainly not unsafe.
So stay lucky ! Your turn next ?
ChrisW. said:
I did a Zoom speed course last Tuesday.
I had been overtaking a Tesla on the southbound A1 which gradually accelerated as I was passing ... so I went a little faster. As I checked over my left shoulder to pull in and looked back I saw a Police camera van on the bridge of the Boroghbridge junction around half a mile away so I braked quite hard in front of the Tesla (who knew what he had done) and was doing 70mph at least a quarter of mile before passing under the camera van ... I got an 80mph in a 70mph on a very quiet motorway.
Maybe the Tesla driver got away with it, but if speeding is a road safety issue, this was certainly not unsafe.
So stay lucky ! Your turn next ?
I never understood why cars being overtaken need to speed up just to be annoying.I had been overtaking a Tesla on the southbound A1 which gradually accelerated as I was passing ... so I went a little faster. As I checked over my left shoulder to pull in and looked back I saw a Police camera van on the bridge of the Boroghbridge junction around half a mile away so I braked quite hard in front of the Tesla (who knew what he had done) and was doing 70mph at least a quarter of mile before passing under the camera van ... I got an 80mph in a 70mph on a very quiet motorway.
Maybe the Tesla driver got away with it, but if speeding is a road safety issue, this was certainly not unsafe.
So stay lucky ! Your turn next ?
Your story reminds me, I was a young bloke traveling in a 60km zone, a car came speeding up from behind and started tail gating , I speed up like 5km over the limit and he continued to stick right behind me, I thought ok theres some really twisty bends coming up im going to floor it and see if he can keep up, after about three or four bends I created about 50meters gap between us. While coming around a very wide bend, from afar I noticed a speed camera van parked up to the side with a police officer standing next to it. I braked heavily to bring my speed down from 85km to 60km as hard as i could but i knew i was done for. Obviously the car chasing me had caught up but only slowed once he was directly up my back side. As we got closer to the copper standing there he started waving his hand and pointing to pull over, to my amazement he flagged me through and I saw the guy that was chasing me get pulled to the side. I could NOT believe my luck and could not stop laughing that the coppers got the chap behind me instead.
Just on a side note i was driving a 989cc 3pot Daihatsu and he was driving a Holden Commodore, V6 I'm assuming. No chance on straights but being very light and nimble,like a go cart on twisty turns.
Edited by TramWrecker on Thursday 4th March 21:45
Edited by TramWrecker on Thursday 4th March 21:46
paul n said:
Hi all
I had booked a test drive in one pre latest lockdown but that got canned with lockdown rules and I spoke to the dealer today and although i can't test drive one he has has a slot come up for one for a May deliver (assume a cancelation) he says other than that the next date for delivery is march 22 so maybe that answers some questions about availability?
Never bought a new car before mainly due to wanting to avoid massive depreciation and also not being able to take new cars on track and voiding warranty.
Toyota's track friendly warranty and potentially low deprecation appeal for sure.
Anybody had one of these on track yet? Be interested to see how it fairs and also i know it is guess work what are people guessing these will be worth in 3-4 years time with 24k on them?
many thanks
Paul
Plenty of track videos on YouTube, e.g.I had booked a test drive in one pre latest lockdown but that got canned with lockdown rules and I spoke to the dealer today and although i can't test drive one he has has a slot come up for one for a May deliver (assume a cancelation) he says other than that the next date for delivery is march 22 so maybe that answers some questions about availability?
Never bought a new car before mainly due to wanting to avoid massive depreciation and also not being able to take new cars on track and voiding warranty.
Toyota's track friendly warranty and potentially low deprecation appeal for sure.
Anybody had one of these on track yet? Be interested to see how it fairs and also i know it is guess work what are people guessing these will be worth in 3-4 years time with 24k on them?
many thanks
Paul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpIVxV8hmks (watch from 8 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWW36BYQZi0
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