Re : Toyota GR Yaris - official!

[paul n]

Cheers i hadn't seen that first video!

really makes me want one now!

Cheers Paul

Ian_E said:

Plenty of track videos on YouTube, e.g.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpIVxV8hmks (watch from 8 minutes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWW36BYQZi0

[Baldchap]

PhilPol said:

Baldchap said:

damolong said:

Just to be clear, when I say speed limiter I am not meaning any limit Toyota may have put on top speed.

I am talking about an electronic function in the car that allows the driver to set a maximum speed, temporarily, above which the car will not go. Very handy for 50mph limits on the motorway and common on many cars these days.

Anyone know definitively?

It has adaptive cruise, which accomplishes the same thing.

No, it doesn't accomplish the same thing. A LIM function allows you to bomb around town (or anywhere) without going over the set speed, irrespective of other traffic.

Adaptive cruise stops you crashing, LIM stops you getting speeding tickets.

Adaptive cruise is perfect for the motorway temporary limits you seemingly struggle with. You hadn't mentioned you also struggle in town (or anywhere).

[MiseryStreak]

What the GR Yaris WRC car would have looked like:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=56&v...

I might have to get that PS5 after all...

[Captain Obvious]

paul n said:

Hi all

Anybody had one of these on track yet? Be interested to see how it fairs

I've done 3 trackdays so far.
Hotlap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPRkYnfrUxM
Hotlap on another track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qghpq88TzkQ
Slide at over 100mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ4tIgITjsw
Cocking around on a skidpan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ7IgwCTBWQ

[TramWrecker]

MiseryStreak said:

What the GR Yaris WRC car would have looked like:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=56&v...

I might have to get that PS5 after all...

Id sell you mine if we lived in the same country, owned since release and no games worth buying, waiting for the new Gran Turismo but not sure how much longer to wait for that one.

[ecsrobin]

TramWrecker said:

Id sell you mine if we lived in the same country, owned since release and no games worth buying, waiting for the new Gran Turismo but not sure how much longer to wait for that one.

It’s pushed back to 2022 (no surprise there) but wouldn’t be surprised if they say 2023 they’ve yet to deliver a game ever on time.

[TramWrecker]

ecsrobin said:

It’s pushed back to 2022 (no surprise there) but wouldn’t be surprised if they say 2023 they’ve yet to deliver a game ever on time.

I got a bad feeling it will be 2023.

[RB Will]

ecsrobin said:

It’s pushed back to 2022 (no surprise there) but wouldn’t be surprised if they say 2023 they’ve yet to deliver a game ever on time.

That’s what made me abandon the series. Had every GT game then it took so long for GT5 to come out I jumped ship to Xbox and Forza and haven’t found a reason to come back. GT 5 & 6 have been huge disappointments when I have borrowed them

[ecsrobin]

RB Will said:

That’s what made me abandon the series. Had every GT game then it took so long for GT5 to come out I jumped ship to Xbox and Forza and haven’t found a reason to come back. GT 5 & 6 have been huge disappointments when I have borrowed them

It annoys me that they waste so much time with vision cars that don’t even exist. I’d much rather have a 205 of something included in the game than some fakery. I never got on with my xbox so sold it, will make do with GT sport and Asseto Corsa.

[paul n]

Nice 👍 it does look a lot of fun! Was thinking it would be wicked for auto cross type stuff as so small and has a proper working handbrake etc

Does the seat hold you well enough for track work and how is tyre and brake wear?

Cheers Paul

Captain Obvious said:

I've done 3 trackdays so far.
Hotlap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPRkYnfrUxM
Hotlap on another track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qghpq88TzkQ
Slide at over 100mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ4tIgITjsw
Cocking around on a skidpan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ7IgwCTBWQ

[TramWrecker]

Since taking delivery at 10km on the clock, I had already made up my mind about the 'Running In' protocol, stick with the manufacturers guidelines etc, so the drive home did exactly that. Then I randomly came across this website (while searching for protective film wraps) that talked about running in a new engine e.g. 'Hard running In'.

And generally as these sources of information from the internet do, did an amazing argument to do the hard run in.

Long story short this video from Engineering Explained did an amazing explanation for running in new cars and gives examples from high performance cars. Which, has already been discussed from certain members on the forum but seems to me they were spot on all along, and i apologize for doubting them, because I did

https://youtu.be/oklqJnm7_TY

[TramWrecker]

ecsrobin said:

It annoys me that they waste so much time with vision cars that don’t even exist. I’d much rather have a 205 of something included in the game than some fakery. I never got on with my xbox so sold it, will make do with GT sport and Asseto Corsa.

My last Gran Turismo was GT3 on PS2. That was a great game but I lost track of racing games and got carried away with COD.

One last note, saw a white GRY with the registration HOTGR4, anyone from these forums? I was quite pleasantly surprised it was an older guy maybe in his late 50's, glad to see its not someone on their Learner's plates for a change.

Edited by TramWrecker on Friday 5th March 12:20

[TramWrecker]

ecsrobin said:

It annoys me that they waste so much time with vision cars that don’t even exist. I’d much rather have a 205 of something included in the game than some fakery. I never got on with my xbox so sold it, will make do with GT sport and Asseto Corsa.

Agreed.

[Terminator X]

TramWrecker said:

Since taking delivery at 10km on the clock, I had already made up my mind about the 'Running In' protocol, stick with the manufacturers guidelines etc, so the drive home did exactly that. Then I randomly came across this website (while searching for protective film wraps) that talked about running in a new engine e.g. 'Hard running In'.

And generally as these sources of information from the internet do, did an amazing argument to do the hard run in.

Long story short this video from Engineering Explained did an amazing explanation for running in new cars and gives examples from high performance cars. Which, has already been discussed from certain members on the forum but seems to me they were spot on all along, and i apologize for doubting them, because I did

https://youtu.be/oklqJnm7_TY

I can appreciate "hard running" for the engine however what about all the components? Brakes, brake pads, gearbox etc will all surely need a bit of sympathy for the first 1000 miles ish?

I have always followed the guidelines when running in and every new car I've owned has always made at least the manufacturers power on a RR.

TX.

[loudlashadjuster]

Terminator X said:

I can appreciate "hard running" for the engine however what about all the components? Brakes, brake pads, gearbox etc will all surely need a bit of sympathy for the first 1000 miles ish?

I have always followed the guidelines when running in and every new car I've owned has always made at least the manufacturers power on a RR.

TX.

Performance brakes usually require some specific bedding-in process which can be surprisingly aggressive. I'm known people who ruined pads & discs by being too gentle on them at the start and suffering from glazing, hotspots etc. until they were changed.

Tyres, maybe, but that's just the first hundred km or so until they're scrubbed-in.

Mechanical things? Use 'em like they were meant to be used.

[anonymous-user]

A 600 mile running in period isn't too long anyway plus I'd want to get to know the car slowly rather than dive in there revving its nuts off.

[TramWrecker]

Well, just like open diffs im easily confused but yeah I'll just take in all the information and make the best of it, I think i over think things to much.

[MiseryStreak]

There are many factors at play, and you have to consider that it’s in the manufacturer’s interests for the cars to be treated with mechanical sympathy for the first 1,000 km, it probably reduces the warranty claims.

The running in of a new engine used to be incredibly important for the future compression and peak power that it could produce. The first few minutes of piston ring to cylinder wall contact being the most important and here keeping the rpm low or constant would be detrimental to the seal formed. This procedure has become less important as factory built engine tolerances have reduced.

As the engines are tested in the factory, this ring seating procedure will have been done, the microscopic peaks on the cylinder liner walls honed off and the rings bedded in.

I think making sure you’re not ragging the engine from cold, so avoiding full throttle and high rpm, throughout the life of the engine, rather than following the exact running in procedure at the beginning, is more important to its longevity.

[UK952]

I think there is a lot of focus on piston ring bed in - very little on other engine parts (on the internet - not by the manufacturers) bearings, camshaft lobes, oil pump, water pump etc.
If something goes wrong it is the manufacturers responsibility for the warranty period so they are unlikely to give poor advice - makes sense to follow their advice - they know their engine better than anyone else and would have done the initial start up and running before it gets to you.
Tony

[UK952]

What happens between toyota and you is not so clear though - back in the 80s I remember being sat on a coach at the docks in Calais watching Citroen 2cvs being moved around with the maximum of lean - inside wheels skipping off the surface,cold engines hitting max rpm in groups of about 8 then a mini bus taking the drivers back to repeat with the next batch. Hoping its a bit more controlled now!
Tony