Re : Toyota GR Yaris - official!

Re : Toyota GR Yaris - official!

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ecsrobin

17,102 posts

165 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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Moving on.

In other news the Apex GR Yaris was recovered from the circuit yesterday with Robert Mitchell driving. The car had an overheating error and misfire error and despite numerous attempts to clear it wouldn’t so recovery took place. He will update once Toyota have looked at it this week.

I know in Australia they had overheating issues (or similar) which was down to a lower software limit than intended, I wonder if it’s the same for European cars?

I’ve also seen a few UK cars throw reduced engine power warnings (modified and non modified cars) this is fixed with an off on so doesn’t sound similar to Apex’s issue.

TramWrecker

195 posts

41 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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ecsrobin said:
Moving on.

In other news the Apex GR Yaris was recovered from the circuit yesterday with Robert Mitchell driving. The car had an overheating error and misfire error and despite numerous attempts to clear it wouldn’t so recovery took place. He will update once Toyota have looked at it this week.

I know in Australia they had overheating issues (or similar) which was down to a lower software limit than intended, I wonder if it’s the same for European cars?

I’ve also seen a few UK cars throw reduced engine power warnings (modified and non modified cars) this is fixed with an off on so doesn’t sound similar to Apex’s issue.
Overheating seems to be a concern I've seen some Japanese tuners running into

ecsrobin

17,102 posts

165 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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TramWrecker said:
Overheating seems to be a concern I've seen some Japanese tuners running into
The apex car is stock engine wise with just suspension and brake pads, will be interesting to see what it is, or maybe just unlucky as I know quite a few Yaris’s were lapping yesterday.

Ron240

2,756 posts

119 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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Yes time to move on.
Just for the record I was not arguing and certainly was not being rude. smile
All hail the Yaris GR. bow *


  • Not being facetious, but very genuinely meant.


tinnes

79 posts

152 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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cowboyengineer said:
Beedub said:
... anyone ordered, got the car and felt like underwhelmed with it?.....
I really think the lack of visibility between the mirror and the dash spoils it. Both of those can now be sorted for a cost

It’s very safe, some people might find that boring and therefore underwhelming
Have had mine for a week and it has exceeded all expectations...especially after all the amazing reviews, which had really built my expectations.
I really haven't noticed the rear view mirror issue and really don't understand why it seems to be such an issue for some people(i am 6.0 FT tall). And when its safe to exercise the right pedal, there would be very little that would keep up with it...its one of the most fun and rewarding cars i have driven in a long time...and i am still trying to respect the running in rules!
And while the engine noise is manufactured, i think they have got it about right and it matches well the performance.
if you're wavering...don't...you will be missing a real driving experience.

Beedub

1,954 posts

226 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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tinnes said:
Have had mine for a week and it has exceeded all expectations...especially after all the amazing reviews, which had really built my expectations.
I really haven't noticed the rear view mirror issue and really don't understand why it seems to be such an issue for some people(i am 6.0 FT tall). And when its safe to exercise the right pedal, there would be very little that would keep up with it...its one of the most fun and rewarding cars i have driven in a long time...and i am still trying to respect the running in rules!
And while the engine noise is manufactured, i think they have got it about right and it matches well the performance.
if you're wavering...don't...you will be missing a real driving experience.
i cant lie , i'm wavering slightly........ i look forward to driving it soon, but my car wont arrive till 2022 :-(

TramWrecker

195 posts

41 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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Beedub said:
i cant lie , i'm wavering slightly........ i look forward to driving it soon, but my car wont arrive till 2022 :-(
I reckon for alot of people, waiting can be a cause for wavering.

tighnamara

2,188 posts

153 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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Beedub said:
tinnes said:
Have had mine for a week and it has exceeded all expectations...especially after all the amazing reviews, which had really built my expectations.
I really haven't noticed the rear view mirror issue and really don't understand why it seems to be such an issue for some people(i am 6.0 FT tall). And when its safe to exercise the right pedal, there would be very little that would keep up with it...its one of the most fun and rewarding cars i have driven in a long time...and i am still trying to respect the running in rules!
And while the engine noise is manufactured, i think they have got it about right and it matches well the performance.
if you're wavering...don't...you will be missing a real driving experience.
i cant lie , i'm wavering slightly........ i look forward to driving it soon, but my car wont arrive till 2022 :-(
I can’t lie, I’m wavering slightly......I look forward to driving it soon, my car is due next month. I need to get my test drive in soon...............smile
I’m sure I know the way I will be going....but would like the drive first....

Smiljan

10,827 posts

197 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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ecsrobin said:
TramWrecker said:
Overheating seems to be a concern I've seen some Japanese tuners running into
The apex car is stock engine wise with just suspension and brake pads, will be interesting to see what it is, or maybe just unlucky as I know quite a few Yaris’s were lapping yesterday.
He’s saying he’d over revved the engine on downshift and now No 1 has no compression, Basically driver error.

ecsrobin

17,102 posts

165 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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Smiljan said:
He’s saying he’d over revved the engine on downshift and now No 1 has no compression, Basically driver error.
That will do it!

MiseryStreak

2,929 posts

207 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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ecsrobin said:
Smiljan said:
He’s saying he’d over revved the engine on downshift and now No 1 has no compression, Basically driver error.
That will do it!
Silly boy must have turned IMT off. hehe

Regarding the waiting and wavering, this has always been my main concern. Putting the deposit down was quite an impulsive thing for me, I’ve never even considered buying a new car before. I was worried that between 11th December and late July (as it was originally) anything could happen to my circumstances and I would pull out.

I might voice my concerns to my dealership and suggest that another, extended, test drive should fix this. Possibly having it for the weekend. Get them to throw in a track evening at Goodwood.

If they get difficult I could say that Dan Prosser from PH says a Fiesta ST is more fun, and I can get one of those tomorrow for a few grand less.

Smiljan

10,827 posts

197 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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From his Instagram

RM said:
robert_mitchell
I’ve gotten many worried DM about the Yaris problem today! “Do I need to worry about my car?!?! Should I sell?!?”
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As much as I’d like to say yes, we are all doomed, the Yaris has a defect and I won’t have to pay for this fix... I cannot...
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The truth of the matter is yesterday morning I overrev’d the engine and afterwards it ran perfectly. It didn’t go to the moon but above redline by about 1000rpm from what I could tell.
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After that it ran fine, it did 5 more strong laps but today I lost power on my warm up lap... maybe whatever was damaged today froze last night and didn’t like thawing out this morning 🤣
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So any of you w a Yaris you should be very worried if you f’ up a shift and send it singing.... otherwise this thing is an absolute blast, I’m so happy to have it and this just means mine cost a bit more than yours...
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As of now we know the nr 1 cylinder doesn’t have compression. W borescope you cannot see any damage to the piston or cylinder walls. Could be lucky w just a bent valve. Either way I’m sure all valves and springs will be replaced at a minimum.

TramWrecker

195 posts

41 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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MiseryStreak said:
If they get difficult I could say that Dan Prosser from PH says a Fiesta ST is more fun, and I can get one of those tomorrow for a few grand less.
Be interesting if they do budge....

On to some super exciting news, video is up on how to install side visors, I was looking forward to getting these but after watching the video install it looks like a super pain to put them on.

On black looks fine, but i think on white its going to stick out, I like the function it serves but will have to think about it.

https://youtu.be/uGUD5JSNob4

RB Will

9,663 posts

240 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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MiseryStreak said:
I might voice my concerns to my dealership and suggest that another, extended, test drive should fix this. Possibly having it for the weekend. Get them to throw in a track evening at Goodwood.

If they get difficult I could say that Dan Prosser from PH says a Fiesta ST is more fun, and I can get one of those tomorrow for a few grand less.
I think given the demand for them at the moment the dealer is more likely to tell you to go get a Fiesta than give you any special treatment for a sale.

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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MiseryStreak said:
ecsrobin said:
Smiljan said:
He’s saying he’d over revved the engine on downshift and now No 1 has no compression, Basically driver error.
That will do it!
Silly boy must have turned IMT off. hehe
iMT will do naught to prevent this, too low gear and let the clutch up is pure hardware...

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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MiseryStreak said:
I might voice my concerns to my dealership and suggest that another, extended, test drive should fix this. Possibly having it for the weekend. Get them to throw in a track evening at Goodwood.

If they get difficult I could say that Dan Prosser from PH says a Fiesta ST is more fun, and I can get one of those tomorrow for a few grand less.
Suspect a free track day might be hopeful, but an extended test ought to be offered. Look on it as an opportunity to test other cars too (even a Fiesta ST). I feel guilty about testing cars I have no intention of buying - but feel justified in casting the net widely when I'm in the market for one.

moonigan

2,135 posts

241 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Onehp said:
iMT will do naught to prevent this, too low gear and let the clutch up is pure hardware...
Not exactly correct. I nearly did this and iMT saved the day. I fluffed a change, cant remember if it was 6th to 3rd or 4th to 1st, but I had iMT on and when I made the change iMT tried to blip the revs and hit the limiter which I realised before releasing the clutch and swiftly selected the correct gear.

TramWrecker

195 posts

41 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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moonigan said:
Not exactly correct. I nearly did this and iMT saved the day. I fluffed a change, cant remember if it was 6th to 3rd or 4th to 1st, but I had iMT on and when I made the change iMT tried to blip the revs and hit the limiter which I realised before releasing the clutch and swiftly selected the correct gear.
So when your foot pressed down against the clutch the rev limiter was banging away? Nice save

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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moonigan said:
Onehp said:
iMT will do naught to prevent this, too low gear and let the clutch up is pure hardware...
Not exactly correct. I nearly did this and iMT saved the day. I fluffed a change, cant remember if it was 6th to 3rd or 4th to 1st, but I had iMT on and when I made the change iMT tried to blip the revs and hit the limiter which I realised before releasing the clutch and swiftly selected the correct gear.
Fair enough, your quick wits saved a lot of anguish, well done.

So it should state, iMT can't prevent this from happening, but it can give a warning....

PhilPol

311 posts

41 months

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