Toyota GR Yaris - Official! (Vol 2)
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Torqu3steer said:
The very latest from that man Harry. Better than an Integrale, just as much of a giant killer as a Clio Trophy, would take one over an Alpine. Not going anywhere, unless there is an ‘evo’ derivative in the pipeline.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kHPtRwwLVhQ
Pretty much spot on....I'm still getting used to the wife who's 5'4" looking down on me whilst I'm driving.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kHPtRwwLVhQ
Still loving it though......even thinking of ordering a second one for delivery in May 2022, so my keeper will be a year younger.
There are only 2 seats in the back separated by a 'tray'. Initially when I took my kids to the dealer to sit in a car they described it as spacious (even though they just got out of an XC60).
Did 200 miles with them in the back of mine at the weekend (100 each way). My son who is 9 and about cross over for needing a booster had previously ridden back there without a booster and says he can't really see much as windows are too high - described them as like the ISS - not sure when he went! For this trip we used a booster, he could see more but he complained headrests were hard.
My 14yo daughter who is about 5'5" just slumped in the corner in a hoody and was ok. They both had minor gripes about leg room, my sons issue was that with the booster his feet were between the backseat base and my seat back, without the booster his feet go under my seat. My daughter just wanted the front passenger seat further forward - being a teenager her leg space is obviously more important than her mothers. Given that they also both whinge if we fly economy (having once been upgraded to business) I am classing it as a win!
Tony
Did 200 miles with them in the back of mine at the weekend (100 each way). My son who is 9 and about cross over for needing a booster had previously ridden back there without a booster and says he can't really see much as windows are too high - described them as like the ISS - not sure when he went! For this trip we used a booster, he could see more but he complained headrests were hard.
My 14yo daughter who is about 5'5" just slumped in the corner in a hoody and was ok. They both had minor gripes about leg room, my sons issue was that with the booster his feet were between the backseat base and my seat back, without the booster his feet go under my seat. My daughter just wanted the front passenger seat further forward - being a teenager her leg space is obviously more important than her mothers. Given that they also both whinge if we fly economy (having once been upgraded to business) I am classing it as a win!
Tony
Great Harry video that - do love what he's done with the wheels there. Very tempting.
Seeing a lot of these with wheels changed now - don't quite get that; circuit pack wheels are so light, haven't see anything aftermarket yet that would actually reduce unsprung mass - and increasing it for "looks", doesn't make sense in my head. But changing their colour - and to something subtle like his. Very very interested in that!
Going to choose to ignore his comment on the Alpine tho! ultimately the car i've got my heart set on - just couldn't resist the concept (and much lower price!) of the Toyota for at least a couple of years. need another extended test drive in the Alpine back to back with the GR though,just to make sure i'm not kidding myself. Already i know the lack of carplay and radar cruise would annoy me - now mandatory features for any daily driver for me!
Seeing a lot of these with wheels changed now - don't quite get that; circuit pack wheels are so light, haven't see anything aftermarket yet that would actually reduce unsprung mass - and increasing it for "looks", doesn't make sense in my head. But changing their colour - and to something subtle like his. Very very interested in that!
Going to choose to ignore his comment on the Alpine tho! ultimately the car i've got my heart set on - just couldn't resist the concept (and much lower price!) of the Toyota for at least a couple of years. need another extended test drive in the Alpine back to back with the GR though,just to make sure i'm not kidding myself. Already i know the lack of carplay and radar cruise would annoy me - now mandatory features for any daily driver for me!
I think I'm at the point where I want to order one of these, ideally for around a year from now.
I see that these can be reserved online, but I have a dealer locally who I'd like to use (unless people have horror stories about Inchape Basingstoke). Are the reservations fee/deposits the same for both options? I've kept an eye on some of these threads but have seen various deposit prices floating around.
For reference it would be the Circuit Pack in Solid White.
I see that these can be reserved online, but I have a dealer locally who I'd like to use (unless people have horror stories about Inchape Basingstoke). Are the reservations fee/deposits the same for both options? I've kept an eye on some of these threads but have seen various deposit prices floating around.
For reference it would be the Circuit Pack in Solid White.
Gweeds said:
I think I'm at the point where I want to order one of these, ideally for around a year from now.
I see that these can be reserved online, but I have a dealer locally who I'd like to use (unless people have horror stories about Inchape Basingstoke). Are the reservations fee/deposits the same for both options? I've kept an eye on some of these threads but have seen various deposit prices floating around.
For reference it would be the Circuit Pack in Solid White.
Last I checked, online will only let you pay the full amount and the finance offers have disappeared, I'm sure that can be changed but it put me off a bit. Tried a CarWow quote and went with my local dealer in the end (still RRP), few other dealers mailed me and deposits seemed to range from £500-£1500 so it depends on your dealer.I see that these can be reserved online, but I have a dealer locally who I'd like to use (unless people have horror stories about Inchape Basingstoke). Are the reservations fee/deposits the same for both options? I've kept an eye on some of these threads but have seen various deposit prices floating around.
For reference it would be the Circuit Pack in Solid White.
Stevil said:
Last I checked, online will only let you pay the full amount and the finance offers have disappeared, I'm sure that can be changed but it put me off a bit. Tried a CarWow quote and went with my local dealer in the end (still RRP), few other dealers mailed me and deposits seemed to range from £500-£1500 so it depends on your dealer.
Thank you, much appreciated. I'll have a look at Carwow as well.Here's my pure white GRY after some ceramic coating goodness. (photos by the ceramic guys)
Their FB post with some more pics: https://www.facebook.com/DetailKing-Rzesz%C3%B3w-1...
Their FB post with some more pics: https://www.facebook.com/DetailKing-Rzesz%C3%B3w-1...
Edited by PhilPol on Monday 21st June 16:03
Curv3hunter said:
irish boy said:
This looks like then job for those that want to tidy up the roll without lowering too much/looking after market/risk grounding etc etc. The kit still gives its benefit when set to 5mm.
https://www.stringtheorygarage.com/yaris
Tempted to get this, especially with 200 quid off intro offer. https://www.stringtheorygarage.com/yaris
irish boy said:
Curv3hunter said:
irish boy said:
This looks like then job for those that want to tidy up the roll without lowering too much/looking after market/risk grounding etc etc. The kit still gives its benefit when set to 5mm.
https://www.stringtheorygarage.com/yaris
Tempted to get this, especially with 200 quid off intro offer. https://www.stringtheorygarage.com/yaris
Have you pushed it enough yet to know if it's more unpredictable on the limit? The predictability of the stock car is a big plus, there's always a way out if you overcook it, just wondering if this kit means it breaks traction more aggressively and less controllably.
irish boy said:
Fitted today. Had a decent drive tonight. Massive improvement in the roll department, eliminates that swinging feeling if you’ve a tight left after a tight right. I don’t like lowered cars so kept the height stock. No difference in ride quality, in fact you don’t know it’s fitted until a more spirited bend. Recommended.
Is this a cheaper and as good alternative to the Litchfield kit then?PhilPol said:
Thanks for the info.
Have you pushed it enough yet to know if it's more unpredictable on the limit? The predictability of the stock car is a big plus, there's always a way out if you overcook it, just wondering if this kit means it breaks traction more aggressively and less controllably.
As hard as you would on a public road. Not track levels which obviously would be different, and something I'll never do with the car. As said it feels/drives/looks stock with that little bit of excess roll/swing tidied up which is exactly what I was looking for.Have you pushed it enough yet to know if it's more unpredictable on the limit? The predictability of the stock car is a big plus, there's always a way out if you overcook it, just wondering if this kit means it breaks traction more aggressively and less controllably.
Koolkat969 said:
Is this a cheaper and as good alternative to the Litchfield kit then?
The litchfield kit is coilovers so replaces the dampers as well. This is another level in price, and I'm sure performance but I'm not a fan of lowered cars. A very personal opinion but I think the GR looks too max power with a 35mm drop.I've also had never had a good experience driving a car on coilovers, its not fair to say however as that goes back to my youth with £500 kits fitted to diesel boras which were a rattle box to start with. I need a drive in the litchfield demo to see how far they've brought the yaris.
I have had very good experience with eibach. The pro kit was literally transformative on the mk4 mx5 with the correct alignment. Which incidentally is being done on the yaris today which should yield further improvements. When I read the string theory kit was being made in conjunction with eibach I knew it was the one I'd be buying.
Proper quality coilovers should allow you more body control whilst also riding better than standard, that was certainly the case with the Ohlins kit on my previous M2.
On the flip side, I've never had a good experience with spring kits, there's always been a trade off somewhere and it's usually with wallowy handling combined with pooper damping characteristics. I've not tried this string theory kit so can't comment on that but the way the Yaris handles is a big part of it's appeal to me so I'm hesitant to change that, even to the Litchfield Nitron kit.
On the flip side, I've never had a good experience with spring kits, there's always been a trade off somewhere and it's usually with wallowy handling combined with pooper damping characteristics. I've not tried this string theory kit so can't comment on that but the way the Yaris handles is a big part of it's appeal to me so I'm hesitant to change that, even to the Litchfield Nitron kit.
irish boy said:
The litchfield kit is coilovers so replaces the dampers as well. This is another level in price, and I'm sure performance but I'm not a fan of lowered cars. A very personal opinion but I think the GR looks too max power with a 35mm drop.
I've also had never had a good experience driving a car on coilovers, its not fair to say however as that goes back to my youth with £500 kits fitted to diesel boras which were a rattle box to start with. I need a drive in the litchfield demo to see how far they've brought the yaris.
I have had very good experience with eibach. The pro kit was literally transformative on the mk4 mx5 with the correct alignment. Which incidentally is being done on the yaris today which should yield further improvements. When I read the string theory kit was being made in conjunction with eibach I knew it was the one I'd be buying.
Great. That's good to know. Not a fan of coilovers either and a partnership with Eibach in making the kit can only be a good thing. I've also had never had a good experience driving a car on coilovers, its not fair to say however as that goes back to my youth with £500 kits fitted to diesel boras which were a rattle box to start with. I need a drive in the litchfield demo to see how far they've brought the yaris.
I have had very good experience with eibach. The pro kit was literally transformative on the mk4 mx5 with the correct alignment. Which incidentally is being done on the yaris today which should yield further improvements. When I read the string theory kit was being made in conjunction with eibach I knew it was the one I'd be buying.
No doubt we'll see more real world comparison data in the future amongst the different aftermarket kits that suit individual needs.
Saw my first other GRY in the wild yesterday. A white one with a number plate something like TIGGY. Unfortunately I was in the dogbus so no point waving.
Surprisingly good looking in white. Normally not a fan. The photos certainly don't do it justice (although obviously red ones are better and faster).
Surprisingly good looking in white. Normally not a fan. The photos certainly don't do it justice (although obviously red ones are better and faster).
Mine finally arrived a week back and I collected last Saturday, exactly 6 months to the day after order was placed.
Dealer was very accommodating, didn't wash it and left all transport protection in place. Little surprised to only have 20 quid's worth of fuel in...maybe ive been spoilt with other brands. Couldnt be bothered to mention it and took it as a positive that I can use that 20 quid and stick a full tank of V power in.
I removed the protection from the roof at the dealers just to check the wrap. I've read of people finding damage. All good though and its now at the detailers getting Xpel to front and high impact areas and ceramic coated to all other bits. Ive decided to get the rear piano black bits Xpel'ed also as ive heard they are a nightmare to keep swirl free.
Only drove 9 miles so far, in traffic but first impressions it feels like a special little car......Collecting this Friday which feels like proper new car day...
Booked in Saturday morning for Miltek fitting.... Ive promised the wife that's the last of the spending on it but already got my eye on the String Theory garage Eibach springs and spacers.....
Dealer was very accommodating, didn't wash it and left all transport protection in place. Little surprised to only have 20 quid's worth of fuel in...maybe ive been spoilt with other brands. Couldnt be bothered to mention it and took it as a positive that I can use that 20 quid and stick a full tank of V power in.
I removed the protection from the roof at the dealers just to check the wrap. I've read of people finding damage. All good though and its now at the detailers getting Xpel to front and high impact areas and ceramic coated to all other bits. Ive decided to get the rear piano black bits Xpel'ed also as ive heard they are a nightmare to keep swirl free.
Only drove 9 miles so far, in traffic but first impressions it feels like a special little car......Collecting this Friday which feels like proper new car day...
Booked in Saturday morning for Miltek fitting.... Ive promised the wife that's the last of the spending on it but already got my eye on the String Theory garage Eibach springs and spacers.....
thatsprettyshady said:
Proper quality coilovers should allow you more body control whilst also riding better than standard, that was certainly the case with the Ohlins kit on my previous M2.
On the flip side, I've never had a good experience with spring kits, there's always been a trade off somewhere and it's usually with wallowy handling combined with pooper damping characteristics. I've not tried this string theory kit so can't comment on that but the way the Yaris handles is a big part of it's appeal to me so I'm hesitant to change that, even to the Litchfield Nitron kit.
The standard dampers are apparently pretty good for OE fitment - the string theory springs are slightly stiffer but have the adjustability in ride height. You can always go up in spec, and that's what the Litchfield kit does. I'd imagine you could get even more exotic springs and dampers from the usual suspects if you wanted to pay!On the flip side, I've never had a good experience with spring kits, there's always been a trade off somewhere and it's usually with wallowy handling combined with pooper damping characteristics. I've not tried this string theory kit so can't comment on that but the way the Yaris handles is a big part of it's appeal to me so I'm hesitant to change that, even to the Litchfield Nitron kit.
The type of driving should determine what you do but you have to remember that the GR Yaris is more a rally car than a circuit car so it's built as such.
Personally I love the way it pitches and rolls, you can really feel and see the weight transfer, and would not want to spoil that and end up with something skittish and bitey.
As you say, the OE dampers feel a cut above that usually fitted to production cars, and that's probably why it feels so good out of the box.
As you say, the OE dampers feel a cut above that usually fitted to production cars, and that's probably why it feels so good out of the box.
thatsprettyshady said:
Proper quality coilovers should allow you more body control whilst also riding better than standard, that was certainly the case with the Ohlins kit on my previous M2.
On the flip side, I've never had a good experience with spring kits, there's always been a trade off somewhere and it's usually with wallowy handling combined with pooper damping characteristics. I've not tried this string theory kit so can't comment on that but the way the Yaris handles is a big part of it's appeal to me so I'm hesitant to change that, even to the Litchfield Nitron kit.
The problem with a traditional spring kit is that is compresses the dampers. Thats why I went with the string theory.On the flip side, I've never had a good experience with spring kits, there's always been a trade off somewhere and it's usually with wallowy handling combined with pooper damping characteristics. I've not tried this string theory kit so can't comment on that but the way the Yaris handles is a big part of it's appeal to me so I'm hesitant to change that, even to the Litchfield Nitron kit.
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