Toyota GR Yaris - Official! (Vol 2)

Toyota GR Yaris - Official! (Vol 2)

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ecsrobin

17,117 posts

165 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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Whilst prices have softened were very close to the last known car being built (should arrive in the UK in April / May) at some point Toyota are going to have to officially say they’re not making anymore or they are and I suspect if it’s a no people who were holding out for a new car will snap up the used stock.

Of course that’s just my views.

matt3001

1,991 posts

197 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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rix said:
Well I'm 10 months in, but committed to a replacement car already I'm afraid. The GR is incredible, but just not the right one for me and, moreso, my usage. For a 22 plate CP, advertised prices (with dealers) still seem to be at the £35k+ mark. I'm wondering what their margin generally is if I sold it back to them - mine literally needs zero prep, even the service has just been done!
Isnt it RRP @£35,5k anyway these days? Even if you could get into a new one?

BevR

682 posts

143 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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ecsrobin said:
Whilst prices have softened were very close to the last known car being built (should arrive in the UK in April / May) at some point Toyota are going to have to officially say they’re not making anymore or they are and I suspect if it’s a no people who were holding out for a new car will snap up the used stock.

Of course that’s just my views.
To support the date's my dealer gave me an update that my car is scheduled for manufacturing in March and delivery May time. I have a KB order number.

Previous estimates were September, October, November, January and February ?? It's a good job I don't need it for a daily!


coded2112

162 posts

221 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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And there was me thinking my 31k miler was still worth £30k... lol

ecsrobin

17,117 posts

165 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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DriveSnowdonia said:
The delivery miles cars all seem to all be advertised at around £38-£40k. They are dreaming IMO and I can't see many people being prepared to pay some speculator the best part of £5k over list price for essentially doing very little. But maybe if people are actually buying them for this then hell, what do I know?

Personally for me it's either new from Toyota, without the speculators mark-up (if more come available that is). Or if not then I'll probably pick up a low mileage example for hopefully between £25 and £30k once prices have inevitably softened a bit. And judging by how many are currently for sale, many people don't seem to be keeping them all that long? Why is that?

I'd love a GR Yaris but it is also competing against a whole list of other cars, some more practical, some less practical that I also want to own just as much at some point. So unless the above happens, and in the meantime, I have plenty of other itches to scratch.
I’m seeing 15,000 miles cars being listed privately for £32k so think you’ll be waiting a while for a low mileage sub £30k car. As we’ve discussed earlier once Toyota actually sort their st out and say if they will make more or not then the prices will shift.

The reason they’re shifted so soon is speculators. That’s why they’re also not dropping the prices as they have the money to wait when it suits them.

Curv3hunter

2,164 posts

209 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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Didnt Toyota confirm last year that they weren't making any more?

Im actually surprised prices are still this strong. Mines coming up to 20 months old and just hit 10k miles. Taking into account price rises since I bought, the current market and the fact we got in early and actually got a discount I reckon I wouldn't be far off getting my money back. Certainly no more than a grand or 2 loss in that time.

Not many cars in this price bracket you could say the same for.

ecsrobin

17,117 posts

165 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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Curv3hunter said:
Didnt Toyota confirm last year that they weren't making any more?
Never confirmed. They closed the waitlist when it got to 10,000 I believe it was with the first 1,000 given a numbered slot. Most traces have been removed from the UK website but no official word.

JayK12

2,324 posts

202 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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ecsrobin said:
DriveSnowdonia said:
The delivery miles cars all seem to all be advertised at around £38-£40k. They are dreaming IMO and I can't see many people being prepared to pay some speculator the best part of £5k over list price for essentially doing very little. But maybe if people are actually buying them for this then hell, what do I know?

Personally for me it's either new from Toyota, without the speculators mark-up (if more come available that is). Or if not then I'll probably pick up a low mileage example for hopefully between £25 and £30k once prices have inevitably softened a bit. And judging by how many are currently for sale, many people don't seem to be keeping them all that long? Why is that?

I'd love a GR Yaris but it is also competing against a whole list of other cars, some more practical, some less practical that I also want to own just as much at some point. So unless the above happens, and in the meantime, I have plenty of other itches to scratch.
I’m seeing 15,000 miles cars being listed privately for £32k so think you’ll be waiting a while for a low mileage sub £30k car. As we’ve discussed earlier once Toyota actually sort their st out and say if they will make more or not then the prices will shift.

The reason they’re shifted so soon is speculators. That’s why they’re also not dropping the prices as they have the money to wait when it suits them.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202210040389391?sort=price-asc&make=Toyota&model=Yaris&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&price-to=60000&aggregatedTrim=GR%20Circuit&radius=1500&price-from=500&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&postcode=tf108nx&page=1&percentVehiclePriceDeposit=true


Nice 7.8K miler for 31.5K from a non Toyota dealer. Prices still seem strong but are falling, as expected in the general market and the fact there are 120+ cars for sale. As mentioned I think alot purchased trying to flip and on hype but overall it was not the car for them.

bencollins4

1,099 posts

206 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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JayK12 said:
ecsrobin said:
DriveSnowdonia said:
The delivery miles cars all seem to all be advertised at around £38-£40k. They are dreaming IMO and I can't see many people being prepared to pay some speculator the best part of £5k over list price for essentially doing very little. But maybe if people are actually buying them for this then hell, what do I know?

Personally for me it's either new from Toyota, without the speculators mark-up (if more come available that is). Or if not then I'll probably pick up a low mileage example for hopefully between £25 and £30k once prices have inevitably softened a bit. And judging by how many are currently for sale, many people don't seem to be keeping them all that long? Why is that?

I'd love a GR Yaris but it is also competing against a whole list of other cars, some more practical, some less practical that I also want to own just as much at some point. So unless the above happens, and in the meantime, I have plenty of other itches to scratch.
I’m seeing 15,000 miles cars being listed privately for £32k so think you’ll be waiting a while for a low mileage sub £30k car. As we’ve discussed earlier once Toyota actually sort their st out and say if they will make more or not then the prices will shift.

The reason they’re shifted so soon is speculators. That’s why they’re also not dropping the prices as they have the money to wait when it suits them.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202210040389391?sort=price-asc&make=Toyota&model=Yaris&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&price-to=60000&aggregatedTrim=GR%20Circuit&radius=1500&price-from=500&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&postcode=tf108nx&page=1&percentVehiclePriceDeposit=true


Nice 7.8K miler for 31.5K from a non Toyota dealer. Prices still seem strong but are falling, as expected in the general market and the fact there are 120+ cars for sale. As mentioned I think alot purchased trying to flip and on hype but overall it was not the car for them.
Worth noting that the numbers for sale are actually falling and are not that high considering number sold. Prices are pretty static really - you would expect prices to reduce as cars accrue mileage and age.

ecsrobin

17,117 posts

165 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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My car I sold at what was a good price to fund the Yaris 2.5 years ago today is worth £3.5k more from WBAC!

ChrisW.

6,297 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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DriveSnowdonia said:
bencollins4 said:
Worth noting that the numbers for sale are actually falling and are not that high considering number sold. Prices are pretty static really - you would expect prices to reduce as cars accrue mileage and age.
There seems to be a lot being sold considering most seem to be tied into a 2 year deal minimum. But don't forget that with inflation currently at around 10% even if prices remain static-ish then the values are still taking a hidden hit because of the general de-valuing of the pound. I expect the general new car supply problems and extended waiting lists are keeping the values of all used cars high at the moment. This isn't unique to the GR Yaris, but seems to be pretty much across the board according to the main dealer who sold us a late model Skoda Yeti last week for my better half.
I think the other factor is the increase in new car prices ... when a Honda Civic R is not that far off £50k including the first registration charge plus the 5 years RFL supplement for +£40k ... Vs. GR Yaris ...

UK952

763 posts

259 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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All this talk about values - Yawn!

It is an excellent drivers car in a world that is trying to make driving tedious, mine ticked over 18K yesterday as I headed home from a day in Wales, would it make a better investment with 180 miles on it sat in the garage - maybe for me or the next owner - But it put a massive smile on my face yesterday and what amount is that worth? Especially when we are headed for a future of electric / hybrids and ever increasing external control.....

If you have one drive it! If you really want one and can sacrifice some practicality / comfort for driving pleasure, then get one and enjoy it while you can.

Tony


Richard Piggott

15 posts

107 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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Here here clap , bought it for me, not the next owner! 13k in and still look ahead to every little drive. Get out and drive 'em

djc206

12,350 posts

125 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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I both drive mine without a care for the mileage and keep an eye on sale values. The car will be sold within the next 6 months and the more I can get for it the better. It’s possible to exist in a middle ground where you don’t sweat the value but keep an eye on it for future purchase planning. I’m pleased to see mine hasn’t really depreciated yet but if it had done so I wouldn’t have been all that bothered.

ecsrobin

17,117 posts

165 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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At 20,500 miles in mine in 2.5 years. Not as many miles as I was expecting but another Europe trip soon so should get some more miles on it.

coded2112

162 posts

221 months

Tuesday 28th February 2023
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Just ticked over 32,000 miles in 20 months in mine....

Probably not worth as much as some, but is such a good car i don't care !!

And smiles per mile better than most cars a lot more expensive and so easy to chase down much faster more expensive cars as they bottle it due to the price of the car!!

And the grip and control you have over the winter months is sublime...

Nexus Icon

567 posts

61 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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Aaargh. Had pretty much talked myself into taking advantage of the sky high resale values and selling it to fund an A110 purchase but had it valeted and fell in love with it all over again. I don't know what to do. I'm 100% certain it's faster point to point than the Alpine would ever be but there's something really special about those cars and I loved the test drive. This dilemma is going to run and run, I fear.

ChrisW.

6,297 posts

255 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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A few people on the Alpine forum are having reliability issues ...

Romo

320 posts

116 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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I love this car, 13 months now, 20k km. Outstanding car, driven all BMW M cars in the past (E46 M3, E92 M3, E82 1M, F87 M2, F87 M2CS), but the GRY can and will beat them all on sheer driving pleasure.

The car feels so planted, so road compliant, traction and grip are everywhere. Great steering and braking, very good MT, seats a little high, but accustomed to it now.

With an GT4RS incoming in the next months, these two cars are my swansong on ICE, I will take these 2 cars to the end of my driving career :-)

Edited by Romo on Friday 3rd March 17:41


Edited by Romo on Friday 3rd March 17:42

Caddyshack

10,779 posts

206 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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Nexus Icon said:
Aaargh. Had pretty much talked myself into taking advantage of the sky high resale values and selling it to fund an A110 purchase but had it valeted and fell in love with it all over again. I don't know what to do. I'm 100% certain it's faster point to point than the Alpine would ever be but there's something really special about those cars and I loved the test drive. This dilemma is going to run and run, I fear.
Point to point speed is great to have but the driving experience is often more important but often missed.