Toyota GR Yaris - Official! (Vol 2)

Toyota GR Yaris - Official! (Vol 2)

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Save Ferris

2,704 posts

222 months

Thursday 14th November 2024
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Clackattack said:
Thanks, and assuming trade prices would be £4-5k less than retail to allow for prep, margins etc?
Every car will be valued on its own merits, so impossible to say. Margins are a lot slimmer now than in the past, but for a car of £30K ish you'd really want at least £3K+ in it.

Delivery mileage cars have their own challenges too, where buyers are very wary of the miles, and the cars are not fully serviced (on time)
One with 2-3K miles but is fully serviced is a sweet spot in my opinion.



Boxhiller

66 posts

58 months

Thursday 14th November 2024
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Save Ferris said:
We sold a delivery miles ('72 plate) Circuit for £34,500 in June this year. Took about a week to sell.
Not suprised. An as-new car from a main dealer available immediately at a sensible price as opposed to paying around £15k more* for the later model alternative which is hardly "night and day" different from the original. - and then there's that dash. yikes


  • Cheapest dealer supplied MK2 manual currently on Autotrader available immediately is £49,995!

ecsrobin

17,947 posts

174 months

Saturday 16th November 2024
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Someone on here


ecsrobin

17,947 posts

174 months

Sunday 17th November 2024
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First proper drive out with friends today. Very slippy in places today even for the Yaris although I was running in sport mode, expert mode, track mode. They should probably just simplify track mode that it puts it into sport settings and expert settings.

I went with the auto and using it for commuting, visiting family and everything you should be doing with a hatch back really has made the Yaris much more enjoyable for doing the mundane. So the right choice, but obviously a concern that I might lose some of the fun on a weekend lap around the county. I used the paddles today and the changes were instant up and down with no complaints. The only bit for me to get used to is a couple of times I hit the limiter coming out of junctions and the turbo loses pressure so it bogs down if you don’t catch it quick enough. I think that’s more a me issue than the car as in full auto it uses 2nd most of the time to pull away so I probably also need to try that.

Finally comparing back to my old car that had done 36,000 miles and ignoring the gearboxes for a second. It feels a good step up I previously agreed that it only makes sense to change if you wanted to change gearbox but having put over 1,000 miles on it now I’d actually say it’s worth the change manual to manual.






Phil.

5,212 posts

259 months

Sunday 17th November 2024
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Lovely and mucky smile

Out of interest what was the price to change i.e. the difference between what you sold your old GR for and the new price? Noting yours had 36k miles.

Captain Obvious

5,748 posts

215 months

Sunday 17th November 2024
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StoutBench said:
Evolved said:
StoutBench said:
Something I've always wanted to know but for some reason none of the reviews seem to talk about it.

Has anyone who has a GR now ever had an Evo or Sti Impreza? How does the performance compare? On paper they seem similar performance wise.


Well, I can answer this. Mine are two very different cars now, but having owned 4 Evos in various states of tune over the years, I know them well.

The Evo is more raw, without a doubt. It has a ton of feedback and always feels like it’s on its tiptoes. They’re very close in actual pace in standard trim, but the Yaris responds better to tuning, which is to be expected given it’s a newer car.
The Yaris’ DNA can be traced back to the Evo, given that Tommi Makkinen helped develop it. The turn-in and feedback are very Evo-like, and the way it corners is mental. Compared to a Subaru, it’s miles sharper, as they tend to understeer a lot.

Edited by Evolved on Tuesday 12th November 20:10
Thanks really interesting
I had an Evo 9MR, they're definitely similar. FYI (and anyone reading this) you can make the Yaris alot sharper and you can kill alot of the mid-late corner push understeer if you get an alignment done, I can't understate the change it makes, get the rear toe zeroed out and have 1mm toe out on the front.
I've recommended this to a couple of friends now and they've come back extremely happy.
It's like fitting a slightly quicker steering rack.

ecsrobin

17,947 posts

174 months

Sunday 17th November 2024
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Phil. said:
Lovely and mucky smile

Out of interest what was the price to change i.e. the difference between what you sold your old GR for and the new price? Noting yours had 36k miles.
£23k it sounds a lot (and it is) but there’s a few things I took into consideration.

Discs needed changing £1,200

Tyres due in the next few months £800 for PS4s (they’ve jumped in price) of £450 for Goodyears.

Just gained another 4 years warranty (I had 6 years left)

I suspect the carbon wrap on the older cars will need doing in the next few years as 3M (which it is not) I think their top wraps say 7 years if horizontal.

And then there’s the fact of it being an early car and being used properly, I suspect quite a few things would have need to be replaced over the coming years (like any car). Many parts were changed during the production and the gearbox never felt great although there are fixes for that.

So with a bit of man maths it takes the edge off a bit, but I have no regrets so far.

Phil.

5,212 posts

259 months

Sunday 17th November 2024
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Good for you. Thanks for being so honest.

You enjoyed your first GR to the full and bought a new one to continue your fun.

I’ve ‘spent’ a lot more than that over the years swapping my cars. If you enjoy it then do it thumbup

ecsrobin

17,947 posts

174 months

Monday 18th November 2024
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Phil. said:
Good for you. Thanks for being so honest.

You enjoyed your first GR to the full and bought a new one to continue your fun.

I’ve ‘spent’ a lot more than that over the years swapping my cars. If you enjoy it then do it thumbup
Not a problem and exactly that there’s so many ways to spend money and you can’t take it with you.

I’ve got a euro trip in a few weeks so can stretch its legs on the autobahn. It looks like the top speed is now 149mph and not 143mph as the press spec says, if the conditions allow I can report back rofl

Richard Piggott

17 posts

116 months

Monday 18th November 2024
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Glad your'e enjoying it properly, and have to say it looks great dirty! Keep up the good work.

ecsrobin

17,947 posts

174 months

Friday 22nd November 2024
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A good first impression from Dale Lomas at the Nurburgring


StoutBench

579 posts

37 months

Friday 22nd November 2024
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It does seem the Mk2 is a good step on the MK1 although not the auto according to VBH

ecsrobin

17,947 posts

174 months

Friday 22nd November 2024
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StoutBench said:
It does seem the Mk2 is a good step on the MK1 although not the auto according to VBH
Vicki was running the gearbox in normal, same as another English review from a few months ago and I suspect Harry Metcalfes son on his quick report.

When you watch the above video or also Blitz Japan have a video where race drivers are saying it’s a great box.

Mine has had some work this week.


StoutBench

579 posts

37 months

Friday 22nd November 2024
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ecsrobin said:
StoutBench said:
It does seem the Mk2 is a good step on the MK1 although not the auto according to VBH
Vicki was running the gearbox in normal, same as another English review from a few months ago and I suspect Harry Metcalfes son on his quick report.

When you watch the above video or also Blitz Japan have a video where race drivers are saying it’s a great box.

Mine has had some work this week.

Seems to be it's quicker in Auto as you would expect but the driver enjoyment is lower. A little bit like electric v combustion. I think it's fantastic the auto option exists for disabled drivers and the like but for a small engine I don't think it's something I would be interested in, my truck has an auto and it really works but I personally wouldn't have a performance car as an auto unless I had to. Amazing that Toyota have catered for all markets whilst also increasing the performance numbers for those interested, It's bloody excellent.

Edit I've instead of It's

ecsrobin

17,947 posts

174 months

Saturday 23rd November 2024
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More videos starting to appear still other than the VBH video no real UK reviews despite a press fleet being in country since summer.


732NM

6,826 posts

24 months

Saturday 23rd November 2024
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Awful driver.

The engine noise on boost is pretty nasty, sounds like it's strangled.

Unreal

5,611 posts

34 months

Saturday 23rd November 2024
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732NM said:
Awful driver.

The engine noise on boost is pretty nasty, sounds like it's strangled.
I was going to post the same. Classic example of the driver being kept on the road by the car. The driver looks like a big accident waiting to happen.

StoutBench

579 posts

37 months

Saturday 23rd November 2024
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Looks fast, sounds pants and auto on a track just seems terrible.

Yahonza

2,286 posts

39 months

Saturday 23rd November 2024
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The best demo of the auto GR Yaris at the Nurburgring, that I have seen so far:
Despite what VBH says it doesn't look like the auto hinders performance at all


Evolved

3,791 posts

196 months

Saturday 23rd November 2024
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Yahonza said:
The best demo of the auto GR Yaris at the Nurburgring, that I have seen so far:
Despite what VBH says it doesn't look like the auto hinders performance at all

I doubt the auto is a hindrance, but it does remove that level of input a lot crave. I personally feel the car is so light and offers a lot of feedback that the manual suits the car. The extra 30hp would be welcome.