Go Karting - How can I get more involved?
Discussion
intrepid44 said:
Please do everyone a favour and shut up when you know nothing. First of all PFI is no where near London,
ohhhh sorry child i didn't know you could earn your keyboard warrior credentials before being able to grow some? how old are you little boy? 
intrepid44 said:
second it is one of the most boring tracks in the whole of the UK, sure it has nice facilities, but that isn't why you go to a circuit.
hmm, i smell a troll, one without pubes . . . and i dont mean shaven intrepid44 said:
I mean a 100cc race kart (don't race them anymore), is on another level to a corporate prokart, in fact I won't even bother explaining to you.
no you dont, ive owned 3 and killed 2 pro karts, PFI do not hire anything slower than twin honda engined pro karts, if you where actually such a pro you would know this, just a tip.ohh and for the OP, i missed that teeny little point about being near london, ask the 100 od PHers who travelled across the country last time we had a kart night if it was worth the travel
or putting world superbike riders into the tirewall
cock
Wollcage said:
not as much as your mum and her webcam, obviously
t loads from computers?Ok Ducati Gary you are obviously a much more talented and experienced karter than me, so in your huge and productive career in kart racing could you care to share us some of your experiences i.e. what championships and classes you've competed in, circuits you've raced at, set up advice, just general information, like the 3 karts that you have owned and therefore know all there is to know about karting.
But I know for one that PFI do not hire out 250 2-stoke superkarts, especially ones with only 3 gears!
Seeing as you appear to enquire about what I have/am doing in karting I will tell you. I started back in 2003 at my local circuit (Warden Law), after a friend got involved, and made the mistake of buying a kart off eBay, which seemingly wasn't raced, but was very fast and exceptionally fun, an old air-cooled Rotax DSC, which would scream at 19,000 revs. Then after about 4-5 months of playing/testing with that, I got a more practical engine a TKM BT95 (JICA), as it had a clutch and electric starter, so no more bump starting, and after that I moved to an engine that I could race, as I could finally afford or rather my parents now could. So I started racing in the Karting Northeast World Formula Sprint Championship, and in my first race I did surprisingly good, qualifying in 5th out of a grid of 18, and my racing basically kicked off from there, gradually working my way up, and winning several trophies and I am now well on my way to winning the club championship. So there you go, also about my age I recently turned 18.
P.S. As for Prokarts, yes they are fun, and I would recommend them to a new karter that wishes to race, as they are relatively cheap and accessible form of racing as long as the grids are there, and will teach you to be smooth to be competitve. I was actually racing one last weekend in the UK 24Hr at Teesside, in which I had tremendous fun, although we faired rather poorly due to the kart having some severe timely mishaps, like the brakes seizing.
But I know for one that PFI do not hire out 250 2-stoke superkarts, especially ones with only 3 gears!
Seeing as you appear to enquire about what I have/am doing in karting I will tell you. I started back in 2003 at my local circuit (Warden Law), after a friend got involved, and made the mistake of buying a kart off eBay, which seemingly wasn't raced, but was very fast and exceptionally fun, an old air-cooled Rotax DSC, which would scream at 19,000 revs. Then after about 4-5 months of playing/testing with that, I got a more practical engine a TKM BT95 (JICA), as it had a clutch and electric starter, so no more bump starting, and after that I moved to an engine that I could race, as I could finally afford or rather my parents now could. So I started racing in the Karting Northeast World Formula Sprint Championship, and in my first race I did surprisingly good, qualifying in 5th out of a grid of 18, and my racing basically kicked off from there, gradually working my way up, and winning several trophies and I am now well on my way to winning the club championship. So there you go, also about my age I recently turned 18.
P.S. As for Prokarts, yes they are fun, and I would recommend them to a new karter that wishes to race, as they are relatively cheap and accessible form of racing as long as the grids are there, and will teach you to be smooth to be competitve. I was actually racing one last weekend in the UK 24Hr at Teesside, in which I had tremendous fun, although we faired rather poorly due to the kart having some severe timely mishaps, like the brakes seizing.
Edited by intrepid44 on Friday 29th August 21:11
AdvocatusDiaboli said:
http://www.buckmore.co.uk/content.php/21120?cha_re...
Have decided that my "team-mate" and myself will be doing this! Perhaps going in the deep end but we're off to have fun.
We going to do at least one practice season at the track before the race though. Would be stupid not to!
How often would you have to refuel in the 2 hour race at this track? I guess we'll change drivers at the refuel as "strategy"...
You only refuel once during these races. The trick, with just two drivers, is to manage the time of the change/refuel to avoid congestion in the pitlane. Nothing quite like building a massive lead only to sit in a queue of three karts, losing two laps while you wait to be refueled.Have decided that my "team-mate" and myself will be doing this! Perhaps going in the deep end but we're off to have fun.
We going to do at least one practice season at the track before the race though. Would be stupid not to!
How often would you have to refuel in the 2 hour race at this track? I guess we'll change drivers at the refuel as "strategy"...
You shouldn't feel intimidated by the series though. It has everything from folk who've raced there every weekend for a decade to folk who've never sat in a kart before. Good series.
intrepid44 said:
But I know for one that PFI do not hire out 250 2-stoke superkarts,
ask adrian, say i said you could hire one intrepid44 said:
I am now well on my way to winning the club championship. So there you go, also about my age I recently turned 18.
yawn, your dead good you, just not good enough to make a living out of it like our boys you sound like that 335d guy, sorry to throw the thread off topic, seems this kid has it set to notify of posts.
keep trying, mabe one day you'll not have to try and shout about small time stuff you havent even achieved yet.
intrepid44 said:
DucatiGary said:
pfi near newark
forget all these pretend go kart tracks that boast about being the biggest, PFI is the best in UK, thats why they use it for the go kart GP finals!
Please do everyone a favour and shut up when you know nothing. First of all PFI is no where near London, second it is one of the most boring tracks in the whole of the UK, sure it has nice facilities, but that isn't why you go to a circuit.forget all these pretend go kart tracks that boast about being the biggest, PFI is the best in UK, thats why they use it for the go kart GP finals!
The facilities are top notch though which is nice, but i'd rather a better track than good facilities, I can pay 6 quid for a burger anywhere on the services.
Still think 100cc Club 100 karts is best for the OP, different league to prokarts
2-stroke Karts are the biggest bang for the buck and biggest buzz in motoring IMO, and I ride bikes.
There is a lot of confusion when people talk about 'go-karts' and wonder how the likes of Kimi Raikkonen made the jump from Karts to F1 with very little in between. One of the Current F1 drivers jumped out of a 2-stroke Kart and put a formula BMW on pole in his first race meeting.
Just think of Motocross and MotoGP manic style motors in 70KG chassis Driven straight off the crank, youre looking at 400-500BHP per tonne. They are a different league to 4-stroke lawn mower powered karts that most people have tried in corporate days out, a different league. On top of that you learn a lot about set up, track and weather conditions, these are pukka race machines as sensitive to changes as F1 cars. Many racers have spare carbs, motors and chassis and will try them all in testing
using lap management on laptops.
We had an amazing time stopping off at Genk in Belgium on the way back from the ring, they have one of the best circuits in Europe with facilties that put UK set ups to shame. I think Jenson Button trains there off season from F1 such is the fitness and sharpeness required.
Most of our group thought the experience was as good if not better than a lap of the ring. We had 2 geared Rotax Karts and only two of us got them anywhere near to the limit.
I'll go back whenever anyones up for it.
There is a lot of confusion when people talk about 'go-karts' and wonder how the likes of Kimi Raikkonen made the jump from Karts to F1 with very little in between. One of the Current F1 drivers jumped out of a 2-stroke Kart and put a formula BMW on pole in his first race meeting.
Just think of Motocross and MotoGP manic style motors in 70KG chassis Driven straight off the crank, youre looking at 400-500BHP per tonne. They are a different league to 4-stroke lawn mower powered karts that most people have tried in corporate days out, a different league. On top of that you learn a lot about set up, track and weather conditions, these are pukka race machines as sensitive to changes as F1 cars. Many racers have spare carbs, motors and chassis and will try them all in testing
using lap management on laptops.
We had an amazing time stopping off at Genk in Belgium on the way back from the ring, they have one of the best circuits in Europe with facilties that put UK set ups to shame. I think Jenson Button trains there off season from F1 such is the fitness and sharpeness required.
Most of our group thought the experience was as good if not better than a lap of the ring. We had 2 geared Rotax Karts and only two of us got them anywhere near to the limit.
I'll go back whenever anyones up for it.
Edited by oilspill on Saturday 30th August 10:36
Edited by oilspill on Saturday 30th August 10:45
oilspill said:
2-stroke Karts are the biggest bang for the buck and biggest buzz in motoring IMO, and I ride bikes.
There is a lot of confusion when people talk about 'go-karts' and wonder how the likes of Kimi Raikkonen made the jump from Karts to F1 with very little in between. One of the Current F1 drivers jumped out of a 2-stroke Kart and put a formula BMW on pole in his first race meeting.
Just think of Motocross and MotoGP manic style motors in 70KG chassis Driven straight off the crank, youre looking at 400-500BHP per tonne. They are a different league to 4-stroke lawn mower powered karts that most people have tried in corporate days out, a different league. On top of that you learn a lot about set up, track and weather conditions, these are pukka race machines as sensitive to changes as F1 cars. Many racers have spare carbs, motors and chassis and will try them all in testing
using lap management on laptops.
This is what I want to get involved with. I love karting, only been a few times, but faired very well. Unfortunately it's a rather expensive affair, and I am located on the south coast.There is a lot of confusion when people talk about 'go-karts' and wonder how the likes of Kimi Raikkonen made the jump from Karts to F1 with very little in between. One of the Current F1 drivers jumped out of a 2-stroke Kart and put a formula BMW on pole in his first race meeting.
Just think of Motocross and MotoGP manic style motors in 70KG chassis Driven straight off the crank, youre looking at 400-500BHP per tonne. They are a different league to 4-stroke lawn mower powered karts that most people have tried in corporate days out, a different league. On top of that you learn a lot about set up, track and weather conditions, these are pukka race machines as sensitive to changes as F1 cars. Many racers have spare carbs, motors and chassis and will try them all in testing
using lap management on laptops.
Edited by oilspill on Saturday 30th August 10:36
Maybe in a few years...
stuart-b said:
oilspill said:
2-stroke Karts are the biggest bang for the buck and biggest buzz in motoring IMO, and I ride bikes.
There is a lot of confusion when people talk about 'go-karts' and wonder how the likes of Kimi Raikkonen made the jump from Karts to F1 with very little in between. One of the Current F1 drivers jumped out of a 2-stroke Kart and put a formula BMW on pole in his first race meeting.
Just think of Motocross and MotoGP manic style motors in 70KG chassis Driven straight off the crank, youre looking at 400-500BHP per tonne. They are a different league to 4-stroke lawn mower powered karts that most people have tried in corporate days out, a different league. On top of that you learn a lot about set up, track and weather conditions, these are pukka race machines as sensitive to changes as F1 cars. Many racers have spare carbs, motors and chassis and will try them all in testing
using lap management on laptops.
This is what I want to get involved with. I love karting, only been a few times, but faired very well. Unfortunately it's a rather expensive affair, and I am located on the south coast.There is a lot of confusion when people talk about 'go-karts' and wonder how the likes of Kimi Raikkonen made the jump from Karts to F1 with very little in between. One of the Current F1 drivers jumped out of a 2-stroke Kart and put a formula BMW on pole in his first race meeting.
Just think of Motocross and MotoGP manic style motors in 70KG chassis Driven straight off the crank, youre looking at 400-500BHP per tonne. They are a different league to 4-stroke lawn mower powered karts that most people have tried in corporate days out, a different league. On top of that you learn a lot about set up, track and weather conditions, these are pukka race machines as sensitive to changes as F1 cars. Many racers have spare carbs, motors and chassis and will try them all in testing
using lap management on laptops.
Edited by oilspill on Saturday 30th August 10:36
Maybe in a few years...
just get the money together for your Kit, spare parts, fuel and travel costs as the Kart itsself isnt really the biggest outlay. I always struggled with getting up early in the morning, getting the kart prepared and setup for the conditions on the day. One of the important things you need is a helper.
Youll need to allow a good half to full season to be able to run with the faster drivers. The first few races will be from the back so you can find you feet.
Look at karting.co.uk for when race meetings are on and hang around and chat to people when there, get a feel for the weekend, race meetings themselves are a buzz.
I race in the University Championship using Club 100 Karts and I'd recommend it as a start. Its where I started at any rate (not that i've actually progressed from that 
).
As for the whole TKM/ Prokart argument, I own a Prokart. Its about 3/4 seconds a lap slower than the TKMs we run at Cardiff Uni motorsport club, with me driving both of them around llandow. I do like my prokart in the wet but to be honest its not quite as fun as a TKM, particularly on test days.
).As for the whole TKM/ Prokart argument, I own a Prokart. Its about 3/4 seconds a lap slower than the TKMs we run at Cardiff Uni motorsport club, with me driving both of them around llandow. I do like my prokart in the wet but to be honest its not quite as fun as a TKM, particularly on test days.
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