Discounted stock Emiras...

Discounted stock Emiras...

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av185

20,464 posts

142 months

Thursday 8th May
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SFTWend said:
av185 said:
Prices on the rise?

A trade bid of £53k on a car with only a few months manufacturer warranty left looks quite high to me, given what newer lower miles examples are retailing for.
Yes looks strong money for the miles but it is grade 1 condition probably the most popular colour and with 2 official Lotus services but 2 owners.

Registered early 2023 so decent 'warranty' remaining.

J77wck

304 posts

22 months

Friday 16th May
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I had my first drive in the Emira 2.0-litre automatic yesterday, and honestly, it was a disappointment.

The engine was the first letdown — it sounded flat and unremarkable, with a harsh tone that lacked any real character or excitement. The gearbox didn’t help either; shifts were sluggish and unresponsive, completely at odds with what you'd expect from a supposed driver's car.

The ride height also felt off. It sits too high for a proper sports car — dropping it by an inch or two could help handling and bring some visual aggression that it sorely lacks.

Inside, the cabin failed to impress. For a car approaching £90k, the materials felt plasticky, and the infotainment screen looked cheap and low-res — more economy car than premium sports car. The one standout was the steering — superb feel.

But overall, the Emira 2.0 auto just doesn’t feel special. It comes across as a compromise — not raw or involving enough to be a true Lotus, and not polished or premium enough to justify its price.

Given the choice, I’d take a base Cayman 2.0 or Alpine A110 any day — both are more cohesive and engaging. And for similar money, the Cayman GTS 4.0 is in a completely different league.

av185

20,464 posts

142 months

Friday 16th May
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J77wck said:
I had my first drive in the Emira 2.0-litre automatic yesterday, and honestly, it was a disappointment.

The engine was the first letdown — it sounded flat and unremarkable, with a harsh tone that lacked any real character or excitement. The gearbox didn’t help either; shifts were sluggish and unresponsive, completely at odds with what you'd expect from a supposed driver's car.

The ride height also felt off. It sits too high for a proper sports car — dropping it by an inch or two could help handling and bring some visual aggression that it sorely lacks.

Inside, the cabin failed to impress. For a car approaching £90k, the materials felt plasticky, and the infotainment screen looked cheap and low-res — more economy car than premium sports car. The one standout was the steering — superb feel.

But overall, the Emira 2.0 auto just doesn’t feel special. It comes across as a compromise — not raw or involving enough to be a true Lotus, and not polished or premium enough to justify its price.

Given the choice, I’d take a base Cayman 2.0 or Alpine A110 any day — both are more cohesive and engaging. And for similar money, the Cayman GTS 4.0 is in a completely different league.
Yep and anyone thinking of buying a new Emira but is concerned about steep depreciation ££ and the usual constantly reported bugbears/warranty issues should also consider a last run 2023 GT4 which takes things on to another level from the GTS (which is a great package itself) in terms of increased driver focus and interaction with relative rarity thrown in as a plus (only c 600 UK cars each manual and PDK) guaranteeing very strong future residuals.

av185

20,464 posts

142 months

Friday 16th May
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Sold yesterday 2 owners 3 main dealer services.

J77wck

304 posts

22 months

Friday 16th May
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av185 said:
Sold yesterday 2 owners 3 main dealer services.
The dealer (Lotus main dealer) told me they had only sold 10 new Emiras since opening in october but used one sell in a day when they get one, this says they are overpriced when new. I will stick to my GT4.

fridaypassion

10,126 posts

243 months

Friday 16th May
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One of these BCA cars immediately broke down on collection laugh

Square Leg

15,384 posts

204 months

Saturday 17th May
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fridaypassion said:
One of these BCA cars immediately broke down on collection laugh
yikes


jamesgareth

303 posts

211 months

Tuesday 20th May
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J77wck said:
I had my first drive in the Emira 2.0-litre automatic yesterday, and honestly, it was a disappointment.

The engine was the first letdown — it sounded flat and unremarkable, with a harsh tone that lacked any real character or excitement. The gearbox didn’t help either; shifts were sluggish and unresponsive, completely at odds with what you'd expect from a supposed driver's car.

The ride height also felt off. It sits too high for a proper sports car — dropping it by an inch or two could help handling and bring some visual aggression that it sorely lacks.

Inside, the cabin failed to impress. For a car approaching £90k, the materials felt plasticky, and the infotainment screen looked cheap and low-res — more economy car than premium sports car. The one standout was the steering — superb feel.

But overall, the Emira 2.0 auto just doesn’t feel special. It comes across as a compromise — not raw or involving enough to be a true Lotus, and not polished or premium enough to justify its price.

Given the choice, I’d take a base Cayman 2.0 or Alpine A110 any day — both are more cohesive and engaging. And for similar money, the Cayman GTS 4.0 is in a completely different league.
Thank you for sharing.

I bought an i4 just before Xmas.

Let's just say I don't agree.

Thank fk it's a free country huh?

Diversity of opinions - that's what we thrive on around here.



jamesgareth

303 posts

211 months

Tuesday 20th May
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av185 said:
Yep and anyone thinking of buying a new Emira but is concerned about steep depreciation ££ and the usual constantly reported bugbears/warranty issues should also consider a last run 2023 GT4 which takes things on to another level from the GTS (which is a great package itself) in terms of increased driver focus and interaction with relative rarity thrown in as a plus (only c 600 UK cars each manual and PDK) guaranteeing very strong future residuals.
Except a 2023 GT4 will cost you £20K more than an equivalent Emira.

I'll take the Emira and the £20K in cash thanks.

In fact I'll take the Emira anyway because - well unless you're going to spend all day on a track - be honest - which is the better car?




Evolved

3,896 posts

202 months

Tuesday 20th May
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jamesgareth said:
av185 said:
Yep and anyone thinking of buying a new Emira but is concerned about steep depreciation ££ and the usual constantly reported bugbears/warranty issues should also consider a last run 2023 GT4 which takes things on to another level from the GTS (which is a great package itself) in terms of increased driver focus and interaction with relative rarity thrown in as a plus (only c 600 UK cars each manual and PDK) guaranteeing very strong future residuals.
Except a 2023 GT4 will cost you £20K more than an equivalent Emira.

I'll take the Emira and the £20K in cash thanks.

In fact I'll take the Emira anyway because - well unless you're going to spend all day on a track - be honest - which is the better car?



Depends on what you class as making the car better, looks or build quality?

jamesgareth

303 posts

211 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Evolved said:
Depends on what you class as making the car better, looks or build quality?
I was going with all of that minus the need to track the thing every moment to make it worth the extra money.

BertBert

20,329 posts

226 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Evolved said:
Depends on what you class as making the car better, looks or build quality?
Neither. It's how it feels to drive.

J77wck

304 posts

22 months

Wednesday 21st May
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jamesgareth said:
J77wck said:
I had my first drive in the Emira 2.0-litre automatic yesterday, and honestly, it was a disappointment.

The engine was the first letdown — it sounded flat and unremarkable, with a harsh tone that lacked any real character or excitement. The gearbox didn’t help either; shifts were sluggish and unresponsive, completely at odds with what you'd expect from a supposed driver's car.

The ride height also felt off. It sits too high for a proper sports car — dropping it by an inch or two could help handling and bring some visual aggression that it sorely lacks.

Inside, the cabin failed to impress. For a car approaching £90k, the materials felt plasticky, and the infotainment screen looked cheap and low-res — more economy car than premium sports car. The one standout was the steering — superb feel.

But overall, the Emira 2.0 auto just doesn’t feel special. It comes across as a compromise — not raw or involving enough to be a true Lotus, and not polished or premium enough to justify its price.

Given the choice, I’d take a base Cayman 2.0 or Alpine A110 any day — both are more cohesive and engaging. And for similar money, the Cayman GTS 4.0 is in a completely different league.
Thank you for sharing.

I bought an i4 just before Xmas.

Let's just say I don't agree.

Thank fk it's a free country huh?

Diversity of opinions - that's what we thrive on around here.
We all have different opinions, I know 3 people who have a v6 manual Emira and they all love them but none of them had a porsche before.

It's probably worth noting i just come of out of testing a eclectic lotus and the drop in build quality was unbelievable. The electric one is such as hire standard.

W12GT

4,132 posts

236 months

Wednesday 21st May
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jamesgareth said:
av185 said:
Yep and anyone thinking of buying a new Emira but is concerned about steep depreciation ££ and the usual constantly reported bugbears/warranty issues should also consider a last run 2023 GT4 which takes things on to another level from the GTS (which is a great package itself) in terms of increased driver focus and interaction with relative rarity thrown in as a plus (only c 600 UK cars each manual and PDK) guaranteeing very strong future residuals.
Except a 2023 GT4 will cost you £20K more than an equivalent Emira.

I'll take the Emira and the £20K in cash thanks.

In fact I'll take the Emira anyway because - well unless you're going to spend all day on a track - be honest - which is the better car?



That’s a bit short sighted tbh. The GT4 may cost 20k more but it will almost certainly hold value better, therefore from a money perspective it makes more sense. It’s probably the better drivers car too, infinitely better warranty and dealer support.

To my eyes the Emira is the better looking car, it potentially feels more special too in v6 manual guise. But would I buy one over the GT4? No way! Lotus have to get their house in order and provide the customer care that matches the price tag. Until then they will continue to be an unwise purchase.

Each to their own though…..we all like different things.

John Henry

147 posts

183 months

Wednesday 21st May
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The Emira doesn’t feel as well built as the current electric Lotus cars, which really do feel premium. I suspect this goes widely uncommented upon as so few people have tried them.
That said, I’ve owned numerous Porsche cars, including air cooled. I don’t think the Emira feels palpably inferior to a 718 in any way

Matty_

2,169 posts

272 months

Wednesday 21st May
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W12GT said:
That’s a bit short sighted tbh. The GT4 may cost 20k more but it will almost certainly hold value better
I'm not so sure. I can't see the Emira moving much at all now - look at the Evora prices. Yes, I know I keep being told off because "they're different cars" but they look very good value next to the £45-50k Evora 400/410's which are 8 years older *and* a new Emira will now cost £100k, making a lightly used one for under £60k look great value.

If anything, I've noticed a small bump in Emira prices over the last few months. They were dipping to £55k at one point about 6 months back even at dealers; now the cheapest privately is £58k, plus far less for sale.

Personally I'd buy a GT4 as well, but the earliest ones at a similar Emira price point (£55k) would be out of any Porsche extended cover next year (max 10 years, happy to be corrected on that?) and I'm not sure I'd be brave enough to run one without it....whereas the Emira is simple enough that lack of warranty wouldn't concern me.





Edited by Matty_ on Wednesday 21st May 23:28


Edited by Matty_ on Wednesday 21st May 23:29

jamesgareth

303 posts

211 months

Thursday 22nd May
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J77wck said:
It's probably worth noting i just come of out of testing a eclectic lotus and the drop in build quality was unbelievable. The electric one is such as hire standard.
iyho

jamesgareth

303 posts

211 months

Thursday 22nd May
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Matty_ said:
I'm not so sure. I can't see the Emira moving much at all now - look at the Evora prices. Yes, I know I keep being told off because "they're different cars" but they look very good value next to the £45-50k Evora 400/410's which are 8 years older *and* a new Emira will now cost £100k, making a lightly used one for under £60k look great value.

If anything, I've noticed a small bump in Emira prices over the last few months. They were dipping to £55k at one point about 6 months back even at dealers; now the cheapest privately is £58k, plus far less for sale.

Personally I'd buy a GT4 as well, but the earliest ones at a similar Emira price point (£55k) would be out of any Porsche extended cover next year (max 10 years, happy to be corrected on that?) and I'm not sure I'd be brave enough to run one without it....whereas the Emira is simple enough that lack of warranty wouldn't concern me.
There's definitely been a bump in prices. Plus there's a lot less available. For example currently there are only five used 2l i4's on the market. That's way down from before Xmas.

Castrol for a knave

6,065 posts

106 months

Thursday 22nd May
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Matty_ said:
W12GT said:
That’s a bit short sighted tbh. The GT4 may cost 20k more but it will almost certainly hold value better
I'm not so sure. I can't see the Emira moving much at all now - look at the Evora prices. Yes, I know I keep being told off because "they're different cars" but they look very good value next to the £45-50k Evora 400/410's which are 8 years older *and* a new Emira will now cost £100k, making a lightly used one for under £60k look great value.

If anything, I've noticed a small bump in Emira prices over the last few months. They were dipping to £55k at one point about 6 months back even at dealers; now the cheapest privately is £58k, plus far less for sale.

Personally I'd buy a GT4 as well, but the earliest ones at a similar Emira price point (£55k) would be out of any Porsche extended cover next year (max 10 years, happy to be corrected on that?) and I'm not sure I'd be brave enough to run one without it....whereas the Emira is simple enough that lack of warranty wouldn't concern me.





Edited by Matty_ on Wednesday 21st May 23:28


Edited by Matty_ on Wednesday 21st May 23:29
Evora prices have not moved in the last 12 months. A good 400 is still mid 40's.

They seem to sell well, apart from the one with the metallic blue wrap which has been for sale forever.

PRO5T

5,643 posts

40 months

Thursday 22nd May
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av185 said:
Sold yesterday 2 owners 3 main dealer services.
Where are these images coming from, trade accounts at BCA or Motorway or something?