Discounted stock Emiras...
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Matty_ said:
W12GT said:
That’s a bit short sighted tbh. The GT4 may cost 20k more but it will almost certainly hold value better
I'm not so sure. I can't see the Emira moving much at all now - look at the Evora prices. Yes, I know I keep being told off because "they're different cars" but they look very good value next to the £45-50k Evora 400/410's which are 8 years older *and* a new Emira will now cost £100k, making a lightly used one for under £60k look great value.If anything, I've noticed a small bump in Emira prices over the last few months. They were dipping to £55k at one point about 6 months back even at dealers; now the cheapest privately is £58k, plus far less for sale.
Personally I'd buy a GT4 as well, but the earliest ones at a similar Emira price point (£55k) would be out of any Porsche extended cover next year (max 10 years, happy to be corrected on that?) and I'm not sure I'd be brave enough to run one without it....whereas the Emira is simple enough that lack of warranty wouldn't concern me.
Edited by Matty_ on Wednesday 21st May 23:28
Edited by Matty_ on Wednesday 21st May 23:29
Edited by W12GT on Thursday 22 May 08:29
jamesgareth said:
There's definitely been a bump in prices. Plus there's a lot less available. For example currently there are only five used 2l i4's on the market. That's way down from before Xmas.
As the dealer explained to me no one is ordering a new one as they are overpriced. It should be a 60k car new not near 100k J77wck said:
jamesgareth said:
J77wck said:
I had my first drive in the Emira 2.0-litre automatic yesterday, and honestly, it was a disappointment.
The engine was the first letdown — it sounded flat and unremarkable, with a harsh tone that lacked any real character or excitement. The gearbox didn’t help either; shifts were sluggish and unresponsive, completely at odds with what you'd expect from a supposed driver's car.
The ride height also felt off. It sits too high for a proper sports car — dropping it by an inch or two could help handling and bring some visual aggression that it sorely lacks.
Inside, the cabin failed to impress. For a car approaching £90k, the materials felt plasticky, and the infotainment screen looked cheap and low-res — more economy car than premium sports car. The one standout was the steering — superb feel.
But overall, the Emira 2.0 auto just doesn’t feel special. It comes across as a compromise — not raw or involving enough to be a true Lotus, and not polished or premium enough to justify its price.
Given the choice, I’d take a base Cayman 2.0 or Alpine A110 any day — both are more cohesive and engaging. And for similar money, the Cayman GTS 4.0 is in a completely different league.
Thank you for sharing.The engine was the first letdown — it sounded flat and unremarkable, with a harsh tone that lacked any real character or excitement. The gearbox didn’t help either; shifts were sluggish and unresponsive, completely at odds with what you'd expect from a supposed driver's car.
The ride height also felt off. It sits too high for a proper sports car — dropping it by an inch or two could help handling and bring some visual aggression that it sorely lacks.
Inside, the cabin failed to impress. For a car approaching £90k, the materials felt plasticky, and the infotainment screen looked cheap and low-res — more economy car than premium sports car. The one standout was the steering — superb feel.
But overall, the Emira 2.0 auto just doesn’t feel special. It comes across as a compromise — not raw or involving enough to be a true Lotus, and not polished or premium enough to justify its price.
Given the choice, I’d take a base Cayman 2.0 or Alpine A110 any day — both are more cohesive and engaging. And for similar money, the Cayman GTS 4.0 is in a completely different league.
I bought an i4 just before Xmas.
Let's just say I don't agree.
Thank f
k it's a free country huh?Diversity of opinions - that's what we thrive on around here.
It's probably worth noting i just come of out of testing a eclectic lotus and the drop in build quality was unbelievable. The electric one is such as hire standard.
I drove an AMG Emira on track at a test event and while it was fast and composed, it felt far less special and engaging than my 997, I can easily imagine the same holds true for a Cayman/ Boxster.
Nice looking cars though for road use, and as noted at £60K they make more sense.
J77wck said:
jamesgareth said:
There's definitely been a bump in prices. Plus there's a lot less available. For example currently there are only five used 2l i4's on the market. That's way down from before Xmas.
As the dealer explained to me no one is ordering a new one as they are overpriced. It should be a 60k car new not near 100k Bottom line is the Evora is better to drive particularly the 410s. They are much lighter, sharper, rev higher, sound better and are super rare compared to Emira, prob less than 50 UK cars total combining all 410 variants. Lotus aren’t ever going to make an Emira as light and communicative as an Evora 410, even the fully stripped out Emira GT4 race car is heavier at 1360kg dry, Evora is 1325kg wet. If they ever get round to making a faster Emira it will be a turbo four so auto only.
twinturban said:
Bottom line is the Evora is better to drive particularly the 410s. They are much lighter, sharper, rev higher, sound better and are super rare compared to Emira, prob less than 50 UK cars total combining all 410 variants. Lotus aren’t ever going to make an Emira as light and communicative as an Evora 410, even the fully stripped out Emira GT4 race car is heavier at 1360kg dry, Evora is 1325kg wet. If they ever get round to making a faster Emira it will be a turbo four so auto only.
I love my Sport 410, but can’t deny there’s times I’d like a softer running Emira.Had the Emira not come with all the digital dash and electric handbrake I’d quite possibly have one as I think they look great.
Doesn’t help when people write the above, and I know I’d regret moving on my 1 of 1 410…
twinturban said:
Bottom line is the Evora is better to drive particularly the 410s. They are much lighter, sharper, rev higher, sound better and are super rare compared to Emira, prob less than 50 UK cars total combining all 410 variants. Lotus aren’t ever going to make an Emira as light and communicative as an Evora 410, even the fully stripped out Emira GT4 race car is heavier at 1360kg dry, Evora is 1325kg wet. If they ever get round to making a faster Emira it will be a turbo four so auto only.
But the Emira is not meant to be that kind of a car. If you want that kind of a car stick with what you have. The Emira is the kind of car you can use everyday - like the basics it's dead easy to get in and out of. Like the insides doesn't look like a go-kart or something borrowed from every precious Lotus ever on the market. You can live with it day to day use it to go shopping and run the kids to things. Add to that - it's amazingly quick for what it is. Who really needs more than 360 or 400 bhp on the roads around here I ask myself.If you want a track based car or a more sporty light-weight thing - then the Evora or a GT4 etc is the way to go.
wevster said:
Emira looks smooch better than the Evora though and better then any Cayman, I agree the Cayman is a better proposition on paper though.
According the the finance committee in my head leaving the £62K in my bank account was the better proposition.Luckily for me the kid in my head won out.
Square Leg said:
I love my Sport 410, but can’t deny there’s times I’d like a softer running Emira.
Had the Emira not come with all the digital dash and electric handbrake I’d quite possibly have one as I think they look great.
Doesn’t help when people write the above, and I know I’d regret moving on my 1 of 1 410…
The only reason you're not getting one is because of the digital dash and the electric handbrake?Had the Emira not come with all the digital dash and electric handbrake I’d quite possibly have one as I think they look great.
Doesn’t help when people write the above, and I know I’d regret moving on my 1 of 1 410…
Wow.
Just wow.
jamesgareth said:
Square Leg said:
I love my Sport 410, but can’t deny there’s times I’d like a softer running Emira.
Had the Emira not come with all the digital dash and electric handbrake I’d quite possibly have one as I think they look great.
Doesn’t help when people write the above, and I know I’d regret moving on my 1 of 1 410…
The only reason you're not getting one is because of the digital dash and the electric handbrake?Had the Emira not come with all the digital dash and electric handbrake I’d quite possibly have one as I think they look great.
Doesn’t help when people write the above, and I know I’d regret moving on my 1 of 1 410…
Wow.
Just wow.
Why?
I really, really dislike all the tft screens being thrown in cars now days.
I already have one car with the s
t thing, and also a van.I don’t want my weekend car to have one.
What’s so wrong with that?
Oh, and owners like you.
You just get all pissy when anyone dare to not like something about an Emira.
Wow.
Just, wow.
Square Leg said:
Well, mostly yes.
Why?
I really, really dislike all the tft screens being thrown in cars now days.
I already have one car with the st thing, and also a van.
I don’t want my weekend car to have one.
What’s so wrong with that?
Oh, and owners like you.
You just get all pissy when anyone dare to not like something about an Emira.
Wow.
Just, wow.
Life's full of choices......Why?
I really, really dislike all the tft screens being thrown in cars now days.
I already have one car with the s
t thing, and also a van.I don’t want my weekend car to have one.
What’s so wrong with that?
Oh, and owners like you.
You just get all pissy when anyone dare to not like something about an Emira.
Wow.
Just, wow.
Seriously though....
The screen in the Emira is perfectly unobtrusive (imvho).
The electric handbrake you get used to.
I will now go back to being pissy.
Thank you for sharing.
twinturban said:
Bottom line is the Evora is better to drive particularly the 410s. They are much lighter, sharper, rev higher, sound better and are super rare compared to Emira, prob less than 50 UK cars total combining all 410 variants. Lotus aren’t ever going to make an Emira as light and communicative as an Evora 410, even the fully stripped out Emira GT4 race car is heavier at 1360kg dry, Evora is 1325kg wet. If they ever get round to making a faster Emira it will be a turbo four so auto only.
The dash looks like Texas Instruments helped design it circa 1985. The back seat makes the rear of a 996 look commodious. And they never sold when new largely for the reasons people cite about Emira’s now- they aren’t made by Porsche. jamesgareth said:
But the Emira is not meant to be that kind of a car. If you want that kind of a car stick with what you have. The Emira is the kind of car you can use everyday - like the basics it's dead easy to get in and out of. Like the insides doesn't look like a go-kart or something borrowed from every precious Lotus ever on the market. You can live with it day to day use it to go shopping and run the kids to things. Add to that - it's amazingly quick for what it is. Who really needs more than 360 or 400 bhp on the roads around here I ask myself.
If you want a track based car or a more sporty light-weight thing - then the Evora or a GT4 etc is the way to go.
Accepting that an Emira looks better inside and out, I'm not convinced it is any better than an Evora 400 as a daily. Indeed I might argue the reverse. The Evora has more space behind the seats for luggage or two children and a bit less width is always an asset on country roads or in car parks. From the 400 on the lower sills make access perfectly easy.If you want a track based car or a more sporty light-weight thing - then the Evora or a GT4 etc is the way to go.
Evora 400 onwards are no harder to get in and out if at all, 2+2 makes it more practical and I think Evoras have a slightly bigger boot too which leaves the Emira with only subjectively better looks as a reason to choose one over the Evora which is a better drivers car. When you’re done ‘turning heads’ what’s left? The best bits about the Emira are what has been carried over from the Evora. Lotus intentionally made a mid car which looked great. Did the trick and had its ‘it car’ moment for those that must have the latest thing (for about 6 months) but the later Evoras prove how much better it could and should have been.
twinturban said:
Evora 400 onwards are no harder to get in and out if at all, 2+2 makes it more practical and I think Evoras have a slightly bigger boot too which leaves the Emira with only subjectively better looks as a reason to choose one over the Evora which is a better drivers car. When you’re done ‘turning heads’ what’s left? The best bits about the Emira are what has been carried over from the Evora. Lotus intentionally made a mid car which looked great. Did the trick and had its ‘it car’ moment for those that must have the latest thing (for about 6 months) but the later Evoras prove how much better it could and should have been.
Right. You really like the Evora. You don’t like the Emira much at all. That seems to be your contribution. On repeat. For what it’s worth I wouldn’t ever have considered an Evora. Sports cars are supposed to look good. I know, there’s that looks thing again. Thing is, it’s difficult to get past. What car does appeal to you now for an all round sports car you can buy with warranty for under £60k? An Alpine? A Cayman?
bcr5784 said:
jamesgareth said:
But the Emira is not meant to be that kind of a car. If you want that kind of a car stick with what you have. The Emira is the kind of car you can use everyday - like the basics it's dead easy to get in and out of. Like the insides doesn't look like a go-kart or something borrowed from every precious Lotus ever on the market. You can live with it day to day use it to go shopping and run the kids to things. Add to that - it's amazingly quick for what it is. Who really needs more than 360 or 400 bhp on the roads around here I ask myself.
If you want a track based car or a more sporty light-weight thing - then the Evora or a GT4 etc is the way to go.
Accepting that an Emira looks better inside and out, I'm not convinced it is any better than an Evora 400 as a daily. Indeed I might argue the reverse. The Evora has more space behind the seats for luggage or two children and a bit less width is always an asset on country roads or in car parks. From the 400 on the lower sills make access perfectly easy.If you want a track based car or a more sporty light-weight thing - then the Evora or a GT4 etc is the way to go.
.I only ever drive my 400 in Sport mode…
Hmmm
https://www.ft.com/content/dc5948e6-6645-405b-a556...
(Apols - not sure how to bypass the paywall)
https://www.ft.com/content/dc5948e6-6645-405b-a556...
(Apols - not sure how to bypass the paywall)
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