Discounted stock Emiras...
Discounted stock Emiras...
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rix

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2,921 posts

215 months

Monday 9th March
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Great that this is now available and should definitely provide some confidence around the earlier cars and prop up residuals. Seems reasonable value to me

highway

2,647 posts

285 months

Monday 9th March
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If it doesn’t cover paint it’s a flawed product. Paint issues are the single biggest concern with these.

Caddyshack

14,256 posts

231 months

Tuesday 10th March
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highway said:
If it doesn t cover paint it s a flawed product. Paint issues are the single biggest concern with these.
Why hasn t anyone mentioned paint before then? (Lol)


If paint is the only issue then you don’t need a warranty if it doesn’t cover paint. Just use the warranty money to fix the paint. I suspect there are other things that could go wrong?

highway

2,647 posts

285 months

Tuesday 10th March
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But given the well documented issues, the paint bubbling ‘should’ be covered. I appreciate paint isn’t typically covered on extended warranty, but the issues here are exceptional.
No one has confirmed how much exposure to the elements exacerbates this issue either.
I’d suggest a significant number of Emira’s are garaged and effectively ‘sunny day’ cars.
How much of an issue is it leaving the car outdoors for days, in cold,rainy weather? Does this advance the issue? If it does, then older cars, that haven’t had the repair, ‘could’ stand significant chance of developing the issue over the next few years.
Lotus have never confirmed what the cause of this issue is. If it is defective material on the doors, between specific build
Dates, then ALL of the cars built then would surely develop this issue.
For all these reasons and more, Lotus should be ensuring that their ‘extended warranty’ includes paint bubbling- even if just confined to doors.

Beachbum

2,600 posts

256 months

Tuesday 10th March
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highway said:
But given the well documented issues, the paint bubbling should be covered. I appreciate paint isn t typically covered on extended warranty, but the issues here are exceptional.
No one has confirmed how much exposure to the elements exacerbates this issue either.
I d suggest a significant number of Emira s are garaged and effectively sunny day cars.
How much of an issue is it leaving the car outdoors for days, in cold,rainy weather? Does this advance the issue? If it does, then older cars, that haven t had the repair, could stand significant chance of developing the issue over the next few years.
Lotus have never confirmed what the cause of this issue is. If it is defective material on the doors, between specific build
Dates, then ALL of the cars built then would surely develop this issue.
For all these reasons and more, Lotus should be ensuring that their extended warranty includes paint bubbling- even if just confined to doors.
Lets make things clear, the issue is not the paint, thats a symptom, its the panels underneath, which are covered by the bodywork warranty.
If memory serves, Lotus did something similar with the Body work warranty, as they did with the paint warranty. They reduced is from 12yrs to 8yrs around Aug/Sep 2024.
So in theory, Body work and the paint blistering issues people see a lot of are covered until the earliest 2032.

All that being said, if it came down to a claim after the warranty runs out, it would be fairly easy to claim that its a systemic issue, that Lotus know about and have done little resolve. People that have panels replaced under warranty, could justifiably say the original fault was never fixed and a reoccurrence is just the original fault poorly repaired.

Oh and lastly, its definitely the panels/body work. Lotus wouldnt be replacing them if there was no issue with them

Edited by Beachbum on Tuesday 10th March 09:09


Edited by Beachbum on Tuesday 10th March 09:10

croyde

25,747 posts

255 months

Tuesday 10th March
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The fact that the car seems too fragile to be left out in British weather means a no from me.

£60k is a lot of money to me, and my garage (rental) is too small.

Although I'm sure Lotus won't be upset to hear that Croyde won't now be buying an Emira hehe

I feel relieved that the yearning has gone smile

highway

2,647 posts

285 months

Tuesday 10th March
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I wonder how many UK cars in Purple or Eos have been delivered? There are no used examples out there, save pre-registration.
I spoke to a dealer recently who said they were about to announce the end of the V6 as well. Don’t know what the truth of that is though.

Beachbum

2,600 posts

256 months

Tuesday 10th March
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They have mentioned the end of the V6 before, only to then start taking orders again.
No idea if they will do the same thing again

Honeywell

1,625 posts

123 months

Tuesday 10th March
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Only 56 for sale on Autotrader now. That's quite the contraction in supply.

CorradoTDI

1,812 posts

196 months

Tuesday 10th March
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Honeywell said:
Only 56 for sale on Autotrader now. That's quite the contraction in supply.
?

There are 74, 39 of which are V6, 35 i4

Honeywell

1,625 posts

123 months

Tuesday 10th March
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Oh. My error, had an engine size filter on.


Quags

1,738 posts

286 months

Wednesday 11th March
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Beachbum said:
They have mentioned the end of the V6 before, only to then start taking orders again.
No idea if they will do the same thing again
They've only just really launched the V6 SE Racing Line (not seen any for sale yet) so I'd be surprised if they had stopped.

jamesgareth

489 posts

221 months

Wednesday 11th March
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croyde said:
The fact that the car seems too fragile to be left out in British weather means a no from me.
And that is based on what? What studies have shown this to be a fact? I'll help you out. None. Anecdotal evidence. Like people who say their granddad dropped dead the day after the Covid vaccine which proves the vaccine kills people. Of course the studies that show no statistical increase in people dropping dead the day after the vaccine? Yeah right. A certain percentage of the population drops dead every day. Who knows why. THAT'S WHAT SCIENCE IS FOR. Jesus FC. You'd think we were on an astrology site.

If you're looking for an excuse to bail out of buying one of the best sports cars on the market - go ahead - but please - give the pie in the sky theories a rest huh? I was talking to Phil the head of service at B and C he says since mid 2024 no new doors they've had put on Emiras have needed it done again. Says they had some big pow-wow at Lotus and changed something significant. fk knows. But at least that anecdote has SOME validity.

Darn I am in a bad mood today.

And God don't I like it.



TVRBRZ

616 posts

114 months

Wednesday 11th March
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jamesgareth said:
croyde said:
The fact that the car seems too fragile to be left out in British weather means a no from me.
And that is based on what? What studies have shown this to be a fact? I'll help you out. None. Anecdotal evidence. Like people who say their granddad dropped dead the day after the Covid vaccine which proves the vaccine kills people. Of course the studies that show no statistical increase in people dropping dead the day after the vaccine? Yeah right. A certain percentage of the population drops dead every day. Who knows why. THAT'S WHAT SCIENCE IS FOR. Jesus FC. You'd think we were on an astrology site.

If you're looking for an excuse to bail out of buying one of the best sports cars on the market - go ahead - but please - give the pie in the sky theories a rest huh? I was talking to Phil the head of service at B and C he says since mid 2024 no new doors they've had put on Emiras have needed it done again. Says they had some big pow-wow at Lotus and changed something significant. fk knows. But at least that anecdote has SOME validity.

Darn I am in a bad mood today.

And God don't I like it.

Proper LOL!

With a burn that strong you could remove the paint from an Emira door at 100 paces!



jamesgareth

489 posts

221 months

Wednesday 11th March
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CorradoTDI said:
?

There are 74, 39 of which are V6, 35 i4
There are 53 if you do not include brand new.

31 V6s and 22 2L.

I bought my 2l i4 in Oct 2024 with 700 miles on the clock it was 9 months old. Paid £62K

To buy a similar car now - milage and age - would cost at least £65K. Not that there's the colour I want at the moment. And for that £65K the car will have done 4500 miles. To get one with as little as mine had - I'd be paying £75K plus.

Prices are holding just fine.

Get one while stocks last.




jamesgareth

489 posts

221 months

Wednesday 11th March
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TVRBRZ said:
Proper LOL!

With a burn that strong you could remove the paint from an Emira door at 100 paces!
People who quote anecdotal evidence as some kind of proof of anything REALLY f'g annoy me.

Oh.

I already said that.

WHATEVER!


jamesgareth

489 posts

221 months

Wednesday 11th March
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jamesgareth said:
There are 53 if you do not include brand new.

31 V6s and 22 2L.

I bought my 2l i4 in Oct 2024 with 700 miles on the clock it was 9 months old. Paid £62K

To buy a similar car now - milage and age - would cost at least £65K. Not that there's the colour I want at the moment. And for that £65K the car will have done 4500 miles. To get one with as little as mine had - I'd be paying £75K plus.

Prices are holding just fine.

Get one while stocks last.
For what it's worth - Feb 2024 there were 52 non-brand new - so it's time of year huh?

For also what it's worth - webuyanycar emailed me today saying whoopie the value of your car has gone up (Reg March 2024 2L i4 9000 miles). Last time they were offering me £51,800. Today they say £53,485.

Do with that what you may.



jamesgareth

489 posts

221 months

Wednesday 11th March
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jamesgareth said:
For what it's worth - Feb 2024 there were 52 non-brand new - so it's time of year huh?

For also what it's worth - webuyanycar emailed me today saying whoopie the value of your car has gone up (Reg March 2024 2L i4 9000 miles). Last time they were offering me £51,800. Today they say £53,485.

Do with that what you may.
My mistake - it was Feb 24th and the offer was £51,315. Todays it's £53,485. That's an increase of £74.83p a day!

That means by June 25th (my birthday write it down) - my car will be worth - from WBAC - £61,417!!

Happy days!!!!!


croyde

25,747 posts

255 months

Wednesday 11th March
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jamesgareth said:
croyde said:
The fact that the car seems too fragile to be left out in British weather means a no from me.
And that is based on what? What studies have shown this to be a fact? I'll help you out. None. Anecdotal evidence. Like people who say their granddad dropped dead the day after the Covid vaccine which proves the vaccine kills people. Of course the studies that show no statistical increase in people dropping dead the day after the vaccine? Yeah right. A certain percentage of the population drops dead every day. Who knows why. THAT'S WHAT SCIENCE IS FOR. Jesus FC. You'd think we were on an astrology site.

If you're looking for an excuse to bail out of buying one of the best sports cars on the market - go ahead - but please - give the pie in the sky theories a rest huh? I was talking to Phil the head of service at B and C he says since mid 2024 no new doors they've had put on Emiras have needed it done again. Says they had some big pow-wow at Lotus and changed something significant. fk knows. But at least that anecdote has SOME validity.

Darn I am in a bad mood today.

And God don't I like it.

Haha thanks mate.

Looking at YouTube this morning and one of Bell and Colville's videos came on.

Verdant Green, V6, touring chassis 2023 8000 miles. £59k

and I'd completely changed my mind hehe

Buts it's been reserved already.

Not surprised as I've been to B and C and would feel completely confident buying from them smile

coolchris

1,029 posts

227 months

Wednesday 11th March
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There a good well respected outfit bought my car from them last year and service has been first class.Phil the main guy is a very decent chap to deal with and always helpful here's my car when I purchased it from them