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stuckmojo said:
Nice daily, Google architecture is super smooth. It's a very wide car though. Must be Cayenne sized
I have a Macan EV as a loaner too at the moment. It feels more limo than sports car to me - very smooth and comfortable, but I don't find it very sporting to drive, despite the bhp.I've got a Macan as a loan car currently and have been driving it for a couple of weeks. It seems to be a fairly basic model but actually I really like it. The ride is one thing I have a complaint about though as this has springs and just gets a bit jittery on uneven road surfaces. I'm not talking about the car itself, but as a passenger you get quite bounced around. I would have hoped that one on air suspension and with a nicer spec could be a real alternative when my car comes up for renewal though. Much as I love the Taycan, I think the Macan suits my needs better and with the longer range in these compared to my Taycan, range anxiety (of which there was very little anyway) has now gone entirely.
NDA said:
I have a Macan EV as a loaner too at the moment. It feels more limo than sports car to me - very smooth and comfortable, but I don't find it very sporting to drive, despite the bhp.
I felt the same. Not sure if it is the throttle calibration but feels a lot less responsive than my iPace given similar power.NDA said:
I have a Macan EV as a loaner too at the moment. It feels more limo than sports car to me - very smooth and comfortable, but I don't find it very sporting to drive, despite the bhp.
Agreed. Driving position is ok but I somehow don't feel connected with it, and my other car is a Macan S Diesel, which is slow in comparison but I prefer dynamically. I'll be giving it back tomorrow after 10 consecutive days and I have concluded it's not for me. I'd rather buy one of the last ICE Macans made instead, or - paradoxically - a Taycan.
stuckmojo said:
Agreed. Driving position is ok but I somehow don't feel connected with it, and my other car is a Macan S Diesel, which is slow in comparison but I prefer dynamically.
I'll be giving it back tomorrow after 10 consecutive days and I have concluded it's not for me. I'd rather buy one of the last ICE Macans made instead, or - paradoxically - a Taycan.
This is what scares me when you can no longer renew the warranty...I'll be giving it back tomorrow after 10 consecutive days and I have concluded it's not for me. I'd rather buy one of the last ICE Macans made instead, or - paradoxically - a Taycan.
Esquire said:
EV’s will just continue to depreciate in a straight line IMHO…they’ll get to a strange where the values at eight or nine years will be a gamble on a hugely expensive battery/motor replacement. Barge motoring basically ! As battery tech improves/changes I also wouldn’t be surprised if replacement batteries become NLA at some point.Cheib said:
EV s will just continue to depreciate in a straight line IMHO they ll get to a strange where the values at eight or nine years will be a gamble on a hugely expensive battery/motor replacement. Barge motoring basically ! As battery tech improves/changes I also wouldn t be surprised if replacement batteries become NLA at some point.
The Autocar article studying real world use seems to show this is no more of an issue than ICE. I.e. batteries don’t simply fail or fall off a cliff at 8, 9, 12, etc years old. The perception or odd case here or there aren’t supported by the facts. Plenty evidenced of failed engines in 911’s doesn’t seem to have made them worthless and unwanted.
garystoybox said:
Cheib said:
EV s will just continue to depreciate in a straight line IMHO they ll get to a strange where the values at eight or nine years will be a gamble on a hugely expensive battery/motor replacement. Barge motoring basically ! As battery tech improves/changes I also wouldn t be surprised if replacement batteries become NLA at some point.
The Autocar article studying real world use seems to show this is no more of an issue than ICE. I.e. batteries don t simply fail or fall off a cliff at 8, 9, 12, etc years old. The perception or odd case here or there aren t supported by the facts. Plenty evidenced of failed engines in 911 s doesn t seem to have made them worthless and unwanted.The other issue is that pace of change with EV’s will accelerate.
Like a lot of people I might be about to buy an EV because of the tax efficiency…
Cheib said:
Like a lot of people I might be about to buy an EV because of the tax efficiency
That's what I did. Was going to go Taycan or Macan but ended up with a BMW i5 M60. Absolutely zero regrets. I wouldn't go back to an ICE car for everyday use. And the M60 was MUCH cheaper than the Porsches to lease for 3 years. And it's a bloody amazing car to live withCheib said:
Yes but if they do fail (which does happen) you re looking at a bill out of warranty which will write a car off. I take your point about engine failures with a 911 it definitely does happen.
The other issue is that pace of change with EV s will accelerate.
Like a lot of people I might be about to buy an EV because of the tax efficiency
I do wonder what the selling point of a 50 year old EV will be / why somebody will want to drive it. In summer I daily my 50 year old Porsche and there is no car I would rather drive. I am having a tough time imagining the same thing with say a 50 year old Cayman EV (albeit I am not saying it can't happen). To me EVs are more like phones, basically a perfect consumer good to be replaced every few years with an improved model to keep to economy ticking over. The other issue is that pace of change with EV s will accelerate.
Like a lot of people I might be about to buy an EV because of the tax efficiency
MDL111 said:
I do wonder what the selling point of a 50 year old EV will be / why somebody will want to drive it. In summer I daily my 50 year old Porsche and there is no car I would rather drive. I am having a tough time imagining the same thing with say a 50 year old Cayman EV (albeit I am not saying it can't happen). To me EVs are more like phones, basically a perfect consumer good to be replaced every few years with an improved model to keep to economy ticking over.
Today’s generation will know no different.And in 50 years no one will be driving themselves anyway.
Ps: by which point petrol will be £100 a gallon.
Sim75 said:
MDL111 said:
I do wonder what the selling point of a 50 year old EV will be / why somebody will want to drive it. In summer I daily my 50 year old Porsche and there is no car I would rather drive. I am having a tough time imagining the same thing with say a 50 year old Cayman EV (albeit I am not saying it can't happen). To me EVs are more like phones, basically a perfect consumer good to be replaced every few years with an improved model to keep to economy ticking over.
Today s generation will know no different.And in 50 years no one will be driving themselves anyway.
Ps: by which point petrol will be £100 a gallon.
They better figure out a good recycling strategy for all the stuff given our society seems to crave new things all the time.
Sim75 said:
MDL111 said:
I do wonder what the selling point of a 50 year old EV will be / why somebody will want to drive it. In summer I daily my 50 year old Porsche and there is no car I would rather drive. I am having a tough time imagining the same thing with say a 50 year old Cayman EV (albeit I am not saying it can't happen). To me EVs are more like phones, basically a perfect consumer good to be replaced every few years with an improved model to keep to economy ticking over.
Today’s generation will know no different.And in 50 years no one will be driving themselves anyway.
Ps: by which point petrol will be £100 a gallon.
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