Taycan starting to look like a bargain

[RobbyJ]

I took my gen 1 Taycan to Le Mans and back last weekend. 1000 mile trip, charging a total non event apart from one Ionity I had to plug in twice (the last time I filled my wife's car with diesel I had to move pumps twice). It's so easy. Was running on and off with several of the same cars all the way back to Calais on the way back. Left the camp site behind an SF90, he was in front of me when I pulled into Calais. You really don't have to stop for long.

[ZesPak]

DMZ said:

ZesPak said:

I had to double check that as I couldn't believe it. 8 years and 100k miles?
That has to be the worst battery warranty I've seen so far.
I actually test drove a Taycan two times in the past 6 years with the intention of buying. I never registered that number otherwise I wouldn't have bothered... actually shocked here.

Why did you not buy a Taycan, out of curiosity?

Boot space was the main one.
When I first checked, there was no ST or CT, and the boot was just too small for what we use the car (going on holidays with the two kids about 5x/year).
We take a lot of stuff such as backpacks, snowboards, inflatable boats.
Was looking into roof storage solutions but back then was still believing in range anxiety (first EV).

The short list:

• Taycan/etron GT
• Model S/Y
• Etron
• I-Pace

Eventually the Model S won the numbers game and had a huge boot. I've got a pair of roof rails for it, but we've always been able to fit everything in it (including snowboards!). When looking for a new one 2 years ago, we came to the conclusion that the Tesla was still the better car for us.
But, as I said, mainly a practicality consideration. I know the ST isn't an impractical car per say, but I can't think of another 5m long 4dr with such a small boot.

If I were forced to replace the model S right now, it'd be with an Ioniq 5N or maybe even the Plaid (if they get rid of the stupid indicator buttons).

[DMZ]

Yep makes sense

[ashenfie]

TheDeuce said:

MOBB said:

Still loving mine, got the wheels painted to match the body colour, much better than all black :-)

Look at that thing

I know the EV movement is supposed to be some huge upset to peoples sensibilities...but that looks like a Porsche to me and I know it'll humiliate 99% of ICE Porsche's on the open roads.

I appreciate that some folk need an engine note/need to put a nozzle in to hole to feel like a real man but... but... these are supposed to be performance cars are they not? The electric car performs better in the real world.

Who knew that in 1902 Ferdinand Porsche had developed the Lohner-Porsche Mixte hybrid model, the first hybrid vehicle, and the world’s first all-wheel-drive vehicle.
We have to accept people have traditionally purchase Porsche's for the love for the flat 6 3.8l or 4.0l engines or maybe for the motorsport links which holds some amazing racing heritage.
Those who crave the apple watch culture ready would be better off in a Tesla with the various choices of drab. While others who crave the Rolex of motoring mixed with the Swiss army knife and sleek line are destined for a Porsche that runs on the earths sweet nectar.

[ZesPak]

ashenfie said:

We have to accept people have traditionally purchase Porsche's for the love for the flat 6 3.8l or 4.0l engines or maybe for the motorsport links which holds some amazing racing heritage.

I hope that's a wind up.
Complimented my dentist on his 911 the other day... he didn't know what engine was in it or whether it was 4wd or not.

Rolex is a perfect analogy for Porsche, great engineering but also bought by a lot of people who just want to pose.

[ashenfie]

ZesPak said:

ashenfie said:

We have to accept people have traditionally purchase Porsche's for the love for the flat 6 3.8l or 4.0l engines or maybe for the motorsport links which holds some amazing racing heritage.

I hope that's a wind up.
Complimented my dentist on his 911 the other day... he didn't know what engine was in it or whether it was 4wd or not.

Rolex is a perfect analogy for Porsche, great engineering but also bought by a lot of people who just want to pose.

Yes you get the just. It’s a problem for the high end market to sell to a differently motivated customer.

[ZesPak]

Tbh, in hindsight it looks like an obvious wind up, but nothing really surprises me anymore these days

[ashenfie]

ZesPak said:

Tbh, in hindsight it looks like an obvious wind up, but nothing really surprises me anymore these days

Nice pun lol

[RobbyJ]

ZesPak said:

Boot space was the main one.
When I first checked, there was no ST or CT, and the boot was just too small for what we use the car (going on holidays with the two kids about 5x/year).
We take a lot of stuff such as backpacks, snowboards, inflatable boats.
Was looking into roof storage solutions but back then was still believing in range anxiety (first EV).

The short list:

• Taycan/etron GT
• Model S/Y
• Etron
• I-Pace

Eventually the Model S won the numbers game and had a huge boot. I've got a pair of roof rails for it, but we've always been able to fit everything in it (including snowboards!). When looking for a new one 2 years ago, we came to the conclusion that the Tesla was still the better car for us.
But, as I said, mainly a practicality consideration. I know the ST isn't an impractical car per say, but I can't think of another 5m long 4dr with such a small boot.

If I were forced to replace the model S right now, it'd be with an Ioniq 5N or maybe even the Plaid (if they get rid of the stupid indicator buttons).

I went from a Model S performance to a Taycan. Massively miss the practicality with 3 kids but now we have to use my wife's tank for that. I miss having a tow bar on my car too like I had on my Model S. My god I don't miss the reliability of the Model S, soooo many problems as I have listed out here before. It was constantly going wrong, touch wood after 20,000 Taycan miles I've had zero issues.

[ZesPak]

RobbyJ said:

I went from a Model S performance to a Taycan. Massively miss the practicality with 3 kids but now we have to use my wife's tank for that. I miss having a tow bar on my car too like I had on my Model S. My god I don't miss the reliability of the Model S, soooo many problems as I have listed out here before. It was constantly going wrong, touch wood after 20,000 Taycan miles I've had zero issues.

I usually don't worry that much about reliability (had a bunch of Alfas and our last family car was a Jag ), but I've heard a number of horror stories from all 3 Taycan owners I know, although that's still anecdotal.
My Model S has been bulletproof (touch wood), and we actually ditched the wife's hatchback for an MX5 so we depend on the Model S for all family duties.

Went to look at the Emeya last year, which I think would be the Taycan's closest competitor?
It manages to be even longer, proper S class territory, without being much more practical.
Seems like they've given all that extra space to the rear passengers, which is something a lot of Chinese vehicles seem to do.