Has anyone actually bought a Macan EV and what discount?

[uktrailmonster]

DMZ said:

uktrailmonster said:

Ah ok thanks. The Taycan I drove was also 2023, but the facelift one doesn’t look much different in that respect. It all felt a bit dated to be honest. The drive was pretty good though.

I do sincerely hope that Porsche will continue to not try to win over buyers that care a lot about infotainment and interiors with no content and that they continue to focus on the thing that actually matters: how they drive. And ideally spend a bit more time on reliability…

At this price point, in a sporty SUV or Grand Tourer, I would expect both great infotainment and a decent drive. The Taycan I drove was not doing itself any favours with relatively dated infotainment. The drive was fine though.

[garystoybox]

uktrailmonster said:

At this price point, in a sporty SUV or Grand Tourer, I would expect both great infotainment and a decent drive. The Taycan I drove was not doing itself any favours with relatively dated infotainment. The drive was fine though.

Really don’t see any dated about the Taycan’s infotainment. At least it doesn’t look like a chintzy 80’s nightclub with massive technicolour widescreens. The split screen works wonderfully well and most functions fall easily to hand. Obviously not a Bentley but would have any day over a contemporary Merc, BMW or Range Rover. If you want more screens, get the passenger display; oh and the head up display works wonderfully too.
What are your examples of peers with great infotainment?

[uktrailmonster]

garystoybox said:

uktrailmonster said:

At this price point, in a sporty SUV or Grand Tourer, I would expect both great infotainment and a decent drive. The Taycan I drove was not doing itself any favours with relatively dated infotainment. The drive was fine though.

Really don’t see any dated about the Taycan’s infotainment. At least it doesn’t look like a chintzy 80’s nightclub with massive technicolour widescreens. The split screen works wonderfully well and most functions fall easily to hand. Obviously not a Bentley but would have any day over a contemporary Merc, BMW or Range Rover. If you want more screens, get the passenger display; oh and the head up display works wonderfully too.
What are your examples of peers with great infotainment?

No need to get all defensive. I thought the Taycan was a nice car overall. But I thought the main touchscreen was too small, too far away and the menu system a bit clunky and unintuitive. I tried to change some settings with the help of the sales guy and even he struggled to find the relevant options buried in the menus. I liked the HUD and the curved dash display is elegant. I thought the large haptic pad on the centre console was a bit naff. The Bose sound system was rather disappointing too. None of these things are show-stoppers for me, but they definitely didn’t help to promote it.

I’m comparing the infotainment with my Tesla and the Lotus Emeya. Both have far more intuitive touchscreens and far better standard audio systems. IMHO the Lotus has a far nicer contemporary interior than the Taycan and Tesla has the most intuitive infotainment, which Lotus has very obviously copied, although slightly less polished. The Lotus has the best blend of touchscreen and physical controls, although I found the steering wheel switches a bit weird in their operation. Perhaps ironically, my Tesla has the best steering wheel controls with its 2 thumb wheel buttons.

This is all my personal opinion of course. I’ve been around Porsche cars my whole life and well aware of their idiosyncrasies. I think they are in an awkward place at the moment, caught between old and new school infotainment. I wasn’t convinced by it anyway.

[Murph7355]

I think what Porsche have done is evolve what their cars have been like historically rather than try and change the game a la Tesla.

I have my issues with the Taycan's infotainment, but they're largely minor. I've had mine for 2yrs and driven 23k miles in it, and over that period you start to worry less about the foibles...mine works well and is a comfortable, sporty car to spend time in with some of the design touches very nicely done (eg I've started to notice how parts of the digital dash are "blank" because it's where the steering wheel intersects).

I hate the way that updates to the infotainment need to be done by dealers, and that Porsche are therefore not keeping the cars as up to date as they should. This is the single biggest beef and it will kill Porsche if they don't sort it.

The search function for local (USB) music is very poor. Ditto voice commands for similar things. With half an ounce more thought the steering wheel controls could be infinitely more useful. I'd much sooner be able to have full flexibility of what I display in each of the "tubes". The bottom half of the centre tunnel screen is wasted, and again it would be great to have fuller flexibility of what goes on there...but the more I use the car, the less things irritate me about pretty much all elements of the infotainment.

I also find the Bose system extremely good.

Each to their own I guess But IMO the interior is very much a grow-er not a show-er.

[DMZ]

uktrailmonster said:

DMZ said:

uktrailmonster said:

Ah ok thanks. The Taycan I drove was also 2023, but the facelift one doesn’t look much different in that respect. It all felt a bit dated to be honest. The drive was pretty good though.

I do sincerely hope that Porsche will continue to not try to win over buyers that care a lot about infotainment and interiors with no content and that they continue to focus on the thing that actually matters: how they drive. And ideally spend a bit more time on reliability…

At this price point, in a sporty SUV or Grand Tourer, I would expect both great infotainment and a decent drive. The Taycan I drove was not doing itself any favours with relatively dated infotainment. The drive was fine though.

Yes I got you the first time

[uktrailmonster]

Murph7355 said:

I think what Porsche have done is evolve what their cars have been like historically rather than try and change the game a la Tesla.

For sure and I understand why. Maybe I just prefer the new approach in EVs. But I do like the Taycan dash display. It’s the PCM which I’m not convinced about.

[Murph7355]

uktrailmonster said:

For sure and I understand why. Maybe I just prefer the new approach in EVs. But I do like the Taycan dash display. It’s the PCM which I’m not convinced about.

Which bits of it irked?

Genuine question, and might be able to give alternative context from longer term ownership

It'd be a shame to discount one on things that made fade.

[uktrailmonster]

Murph7355 said:

uktrailmonster said:

For sure and I understand why. Maybe I just prefer the new approach in EVs. But I do like the Taycan dash display. It’s the PCM which I’m not convinced about.

Which bits of it irked?

Genuine question, and might be able to give alternative context from longer term ownership

It'd be a shame to discount one on things that made fade.

Nothing specific, just the dated menu interface and small screen. It wouldn’t necessarily stop me from buying one, but I got the impression it would be a clunky user experience. What are the satnav and audio streaming interfaces like? Can you set up complete user setting profiles on a mobile phone key? Do you have full remote access to climate controls, cameras etc. Do you get automatic OTA software and mapping updates? Maybe it is more advanced than I think, but I got the feeling it was still a bit old-school. Not show-stoppers, but these are things I’ve got used to and now take for granted.