Has anyone actually bought a Macan EV and what discount?

[garystoybox]

911stWP said:

No amount of money would get me in an EV but I pay my TAX, live a nice life and I drive what I want to drive.
It's called freedom.

That’s fine, but obviously just your opinion. I too pay my tax, live a nice life and drive what I want. As a daily, the Taycan is the best car of I’ve had and for that job it’s better suited than any 911 of even my 812SF.
You make it sound like people only drive EV’s for tax reasons (nice benefit though). That’s not the case (although it will be for some).

[DMZ]

Do the big discounts Porsche dealers are offering these days not apply to the Macan EV? Or maybe suggest that you’re not willing to absorb the massive difference between new and barely used and see what happens?

[911stWP]

garystoybox said:

You make it sound like people only drive EV s for tax reasons (nice benefit though). That s not the case (although it will be for some).

seems to be for most on the higher end models ie EV over £40k

Of course a few people WILL choose to drive a £100k EV as an only car out of a company but it seems rare to do this.
I don't know any Private Taycan owners, but I know a lot of people with company Taycans and they ALWAYS state TAX resaons.
So my opinion is based on people and clients I talk too.

[Discombobulate]

911stWP said:

So you own an EV but wish to drive the 911 ?

Just do it, life is too short to even worry about it.

I have 2 EVs, a 911 and a Clubsport S so divided loyalties

[PHFS]

DMZ said:

Do the big discounts Porsche dealers are offering these days not apply to the Macan EV? Or maybe suggest that you re not willing to absorb the massive difference between new and barely used and see what happens?

Still no new big discounts.... yet aka taycan.

Used cars starting to drop. That is what this thread was started for.

Edited by PHFS on Wednesday 4th June 22:36

[Cheib]

DMZ said:

Do the big discounts Porsche dealers are offering these days not apply to the Macan EV? Or maybe suggest that you re not willing to absorb the massive difference between new and barely used and see what happens?

Spoken to two dealers…both have quoted several months/Q4 for a car built to spec. There are new cars around but it seems not as many as I thought there would be. Sounds like the Macan is far more popular than the Taycan.

[Greenmantle]

Two years ago I was looking to purchase a Macan EV through a Ltd Company since my daily was slowly dying and I thought I had about another 12 months out of it.
Obviously I was far to early to the table and in the end my daily had only 6 months to live.
I watched the news / market daily and I probably went through all the different permutations to get a new daily.

Two things broke this camels back:

(1) The Taycan - its issues, depreciation and Porsches overall arrogant attitude to its customers of this vehicle.
(2) Early Indication of the new prices for the Macan 4 / Turbo.

In the end I bought a 72 plate EV from a Main Dealer 12 months ago at about 50% of its new price.
I suggest you do the same.

[Guyr]

The depreciation massively over-rides all the advantages of the cashflow tax benefit of buying new.

A new £100k EV will lose £50k+ over the first 2-3 years, a used £50k EV cannot.

That's why I've just bought a used 3 year old 10,000 mile EV in my company for around 35% of it's list price.

The entire EV market is only being sustained by big companies insisting on buying/leasing new EVs as a policy.

[uktrailmonster]

Guyr said:

The depreciation massively over-rides all the advantages of the cashflow tax benefit of buying new.

A new £100k EV will lose £50k+ over the first 2-3 years, a used £50k EV cannot.

That's why I've just bought a used 3 year old 10,000 mile EV in my company for around 35% of it's list price.

The entire EV market is only being sustained by big companies insisting on buying/leasing new EVs as a policy.

The way I see tax benefits are merely as a reduced net-cost. So a £100k EV costs less than £100k in my pocket. Depreciation is what it is ie the price of buying a brand new car. I find ex-demo cars which are still eligible for full tax relief a good compromise - typically 6 months old with less than 3k miles. I’m at a stage of life where I’m not interested in 3 year old used cars, despite the obvious savings.

The problem I’m having with the Macan EV right now is a distinct lack of significantly discounted demo cars to make it a sensible buy. I can get an early 2025 Polestar 3 with minimal mileage and £20k off new order price, which is pretty tempting. Also doesn’t help that Porsche have so many option choices. Chances of finding the spec I actually want in a used car is low.

[PHFS]

Wow first Turbo (and an OPC one at that), under £80k

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024121773...

[Discombobulate]

PHFS said:

Wow first Turbo (and an OPC one at that), under £80k

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024121773...

But the ad: draped in white?

[uktrailmonster]

PHFS said:

Wow first Turbo (and an OPC one at that), under £80k

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024121773...

So a year old, average mileage. £108k list price with options, but missing some of what I would really want. It’s an average spec at best.

£80k doesn’t seem like amazing value really. I would prefer a 4S anyway. I don’t see much value in the Turbo for a family SUV like this.

[PHFS]

uktrailmonster said:

So a year old, average mileage. £108k list price with options, but missing some of what I would really want. It’s an average spec at best.

£80k doesn’t seem like amazing value really. I would prefer a 4S anyway. I don’t see much value in the Turbo for a family SUV like this.

Agree, still not great value for this spec, but first one to drop below 80k I have seen.
And good spot - so it's lost £28k in 10 months...!

Edited by PHFS on Saturday 30th August 13:39

[uktrailmonster]

PHFS said:

Agree, still not great value for this spec, but first one to drop below 80k.
And good spot - so its lost £28k in 10 months...!

Turbo list price is £97k and we know that additional options will be an almost total loss on resale. I expect this is probably a dealer management car rather than a customer trade-in.

At the moment, there are far better deals on the Taycan CT, which has much the same practicality. I’ve started looking more at those in the same price range. An £80k Taycan CT 4S at similar age and mileage just seems like better value.

[Sheepshanks]

PHFS said:

Wow first Turbo (and an OPC one at that), under £80k

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024121773...

I know Turbo is trim / power level thing, but isn’t having turbo in an EV’s designation kind of cringeworthy?

[uktrailmonster]

Sheepshanks said:

I know Turbo is trim / power level thing, but isn’t having turbo in an EV’s designation kind of cringeworthy?

It is, but this is Porsche and most of their customers find it easier to understand. Porsche also wants to maintain at least 4 distinct power levels in their EVs, so this is a convenient naming convention. You soon forget it sounds a bit daft!

[Cheib]

uktrailmonster said:

Sheepshanks said:

I know Turbo is trim / power level thing, but isn’t having turbo in an EV’s designation kind of cringeworthy?

It is, but this is Porsche and most of their customers find it easier to understand. Porsche also wants to maintain at least 4 distinct power levels in their EVs, so this is a convenient naming convention. You soon forget it sounds a bit daft!

Every 911 apart from the GT cars is now turbocharged…the 911 Turbo is no longer the only Turbo they still call it “Turbo”

[uktrailmonster]

Cheib said:

uktrailmonster said:

Sheepshanks said:

I know Turbo is trim / power level thing, but isn’t having turbo in an EV’s designation kind of cringeworthy?

It is, but this is Porsche and most of their customers find it easier to understand. Porsche also wants to maintain at least 4 distinct power levels in their EVs, so this is a convenient naming convention. You soon forget it sounds a bit daft!

Every 911 apart from the GT cars is now turbocharged…the 911 Turbo is no longer the only Turbo they still call it “Turbo”

That’s a bit different though, because at least the “Turbo” model does still actually have a turbo. But I think everyone now understands this model naming hierarchy.

It would seem stupid and very misleading to put a “Turbo” badge on a non-turbo ICE model (of course they don’t do that), but they get away with it on an EV. Anyway, it doesn’t bother me.

[Murph7355]

uktrailmonster said:

Cheib said:

uktrailmonster said:

Sheepshanks said:

I know Turbo is trim / power level thing, but isn’t having turbo in an EV’s designation kind of cringeworthy?

It is, but this is Porsche and most of their customers find it easier to understand. Porsche also wants to maintain at least 4 distinct power levels in their EVs, so this is a convenient naming convention. You soon forget it sounds a bit daft!

Every 911 apart from the GT cars is now turbocharged…the 911 Turbo is no longer the only Turbo they still call it “Turbo”

That’s a bit different though, because at least the “Turbo” model does still actually have a turbo. But I think everyone now understands this model naming hierarchy.

It would seem stupid and very misleading to put a “Turbo” badge on a non-turbo ICE model (of course they don’t do that), but they get away with it on an EV. Anyway, it doesn’t bother me.

Which tags would people prefer to delineate things? L, GL, GLS? Vanden Plas? Vignale?

Are there any non-cringeworthy tags?

Plenty of things with no actual turbo are called "Turbo". It's arguably become a tag to denote higher performance... Wouldn't be something that draws me to the model, but equally not something I'd get animated about.

They do use S for Sport. Maybe there are other reasons behind why they avoid SuperSport

[uktrailmonster]

Murph7355 said:

Which tags would people prefer to delineate things? L, GL, GLS? Vanden Plas? Vignale?

Are there any non-cringeworthy tags?

They could simply use numbers and letters like BMW and Audi. The “Turbo” thing is a bit naff on an EV when you think about it. So how about a new buzz word like “Ultra”? It works in both German and English.