Has anyone actually bought a Macan EV and what discount?
Discussion
DMZ said:
uktrailmonster said:
Ah ok thanks. The Taycan I drove was also 2023, but the facelift one doesn’t look much different in that respect. It all felt a bit dated to be honest. The drive was pretty good though.
I do sincerely hope that Porsche will continue to not try to win over buyers that care a lot about infotainment and interiors with no content and that they continue to focus on the thing that actually matters: how they drive. And ideally spend a bit more time on reliability…uktrailmonster said:
At this price point, in a sporty SUV or Grand Tourer, I would expect both great infotainment and a decent drive. The Taycan I drove was not doing itself any favours with relatively dated infotainment. The drive was fine though.
Really don’t see any dated about the Taycan’s infotainment. At least it doesn’t look like a chintzy 80’s nightclub with massive technicolour widescreens. The split screen works wonderfully well and most functions fall easily to hand. Obviously not a Bentley but would have any day over a contemporary Merc, BMW or Range Rover. If you want more screens, get the passenger display; oh and the head up display works wonderfully too.What are your examples of peers with great infotainment?
garystoybox said:
uktrailmonster said:
At this price point, in a sporty SUV or Grand Tourer, I would expect both great infotainment and a decent drive. The Taycan I drove was not doing itself any favours with relatively dated infotainment. The drive was fine though.
Really don’t see any dated about the Taycan’s infotainment. At least it doesn’t look like a chintzy 80’s nightclub with massive technicolour widescreens. The split screen works wonderfully well and most functions fall easily to hand. Obviously not a Bentley but would have any day over a contemporary Merc, BMW or Range Rover. If you want more screens, get the passenger display; oh and the head up display works wonderfully too.What are your examples of peers with great infotainment?
I’m comparing the infotainment with my Tesla and the Lotus Emeya. Both have far more intuitive touchscreens and far better standard audio systems. IMHO the Lotus has a far nicer contemporary interior than the Taycan and Tesla has the most intuitive infotainment, which Lotus has very obviously copied, although slightly less polished. The Lotus has the best blend of touchscreen and physical controls, although I found the steering wheel switches a bit weird in their operation. Perhaps ironically, my Tesla has the best steering wheel controls with its 2 thumb wheel buttons.
This is all my personal opinion of course. I’ve been around Porsche cars my whole life and well aware of their idiosyncrasies. I think they are in an awkward place at the moment, caught between old and new school infotainment. I wasn’t convinced by it anyway.
I think what Porsche have done is evolve what their cars have been like historically rather than try and change the game a la Tesla.
I have my issues with the Taycan's infotainment, but they're largely minor. I've had mine for 2yrs and driven 23k miles in it, and over that period you start to worry less about the foibles...mine works well and is a comfortable, sporty car to spend time in with some of the design touches very nicely done (eg I've started to notice how parts of the digital dash are "blank" because it's where the steering wheel intersects).
I hate the way that updates to the infotainment need to be done by dealers, and that Porsche are therefore not keeping the cars as up to date as they should. This is the single biggest beef and it will kill Porsche if they don't sort it.
The search function for local (USB) music is very poor. Ditto voice commands for similar things. With half an ounce more thought the steering wheel controls could be infinitely more useful. I'd much sooner be able to have full flexibility of what I display in each of the "tubes". The bottom half of the centre tunnel screen is wasted, and again it would be great to have fuller flexibility of what goes on there...but the more I use the car, the less things irritate me about pretty much all elements of the infotainment.
I also find the Bose system extremely good.
Each to their own I guess
But IMO the interior is very much a grow-er not a show-er.
I have my issues with the Taycan's infotainment, but they're largely minor. I've had mine for 2yrs and driven 23k miles in it, and over that period you start to worry less about the foibles...mine works well and is a comfortable, sporty car to spend time in with some of the design touches very nicely done (eg I've started to notice how parts of the digital dash are "blank" because it's where the steering wheel intersects).
I hate the way that updates to the infotainment need to be done by dealers, and that Porsche are therefore not keeping the cars as up to date as they should. This is the single biggest beef and it will kill Porsche if they don't sort it.
The search function for local (USB) music is very poor. Ditto voice commands for similar things. With half an ounce more thought the steering wheel controls could be infinitely more useful. I'd much sooner be able to have full flexibility of what I display in each of the "tubes". The bottom half of the centre tunnel screen is wasted, and again it would be great to have fuller flexibility of what goes on there...but the more I use the car, the less things irritate me about pretty much all elements of the infotainment.
I also find the Bose system extremely good.
Each to their own I guess
But IMO the interior is very much a grow-er not a show-er.uktrailmonster said:
DMZ said:
uktrailmonster said:
Ah ok thanks. The Taycan I drove was also 2023, but the facelift one doesn’t look much different in that respect. It all felt a bit dated to be honest. The drive was pretty good though.
I do sincerely hope that Porsche will continue to not try to win over buyers that care a lot about infotainment and interiors with no content and that they continue to focus on the thing that actually matters: how they drive. And ideally spend a bit more time on reliability…Murph7355 said:
I think what Porsche have done is evolve what their cars have been like historically rather than try and change the game a la Tesla.
For sure and I understand why. Maybe I just prefer the new approach in EVs. But I do like the Taycan dash display. It’s the PCM which I’m not convinced about. uktrailmonster said:
For sure and I understand why. Maybe I just prefer the new approach in EVs. But I do like the Taycan dash display. It’s the PCM which I’m not convinced about.
Which bits of it irked? Genuine question, and might be able to give alternative context from longer term ownership
It'd be a shame to discount one on things that made fade.
Murph7355 said:
uktrailmonster said:
For sure and I understand why. Maybe I just prefer the new approach in EVs. But I do like the Taycan dash display. It’s the PCM which I’m not convinced about.
Which bits of it irked? Genuine question, and might be able to give alternative context from longer term ownership
It'd be a shame to discount one on things that made fade.
Digester Man said:
From those who have one of these, how are you all getting on with them. We have an iX3 at the moment but thinking Macan EV could be the next move. Interested to hear opinions on whether they are worth it and which models people have gone for.
I had an iX3 for a while, loved it, then swapped into an i4. Had the i4 a while, really enjoyed that too, now 9 months into a Macan EV.When i went from iX3 to i4 i test drove the 40 and the 50 and much preferred the dynamics of the rwd 40 to the awd 50, so when i looked at the Macan i test drove all 4 variants. Again i ended up choosing the rwd base model for the dynamics. It's got 355hp and does 0-60 in 5.3 seconds with launch control (who uses that regularly? Not me) so it's quick enough for the family duties i need it to perform, and because it's lacking the powered front axle it's so much nicer to drive. The front axle in the 4wd cars is 110kg heavier than the unpowered front axle in the base rwd car.
However, i get that some people want the perceived safety of 4wd and depending on your appetite for power and speed (and cost) those are available too.
I really enjoyed the iX3. It drove well, had a great compromise between ride and handling, decent space in the front and rear seats and a usefully shaped boot. The Macan is similarly sized in the front, in the back (maybe a touch bigger), and in the boot - but the ride and handling is on another level. Mine has 22" wheels and air suspension, but even the base spec 20's with steel springs rides and handles better than an iX3. Noticeably quieter too.
The range on my iX3 was maybe 240/250 in summer, and more like 160/170 in winter (100% charge).
The Macan is giving me 220/230 miles on 80% charge in winter, and 300/330 miles on 100% in summer, so significantly more autonomy (but then it does have a bigger battery).
Hope that helps.
Joscal said:
I ve just learnt that the Taycan CT is astonishingly good in the snow and ice.
Amazing traction got me up an icy lane where a Cayenne could go no further.
Would have thought the opposite! Must be the low centre of gravity?
Just be careful coming back down as the weight and wide summer tyres are a nightmare under braking on snow/ice.Amazing traction got me up an icy lane where a Cayenne could go no further.
Would have thought the opposite! Must be the low centre of gravity?
That said, the places I’ve got to in mine on winters in rural Northumberland has had a few 4x4 drivers scratching their heads.
garystoybox said:
Just be careful coming back down as the weight and wide summer tyres are a nightmare under braking on snow/ice.
That said, the places I ve got to in mine on winters in rural Northumberland has had a few 4x4 drivers scratching their heads.
Gravel mode eased me back down really well, clever technology I assume! That said, the places I ve got to in mine on winters in rural Northumberland has had a few 4x4 drivers scratching their heads.
I remember Harrys garage review and he was amazed at how good it was in his steep field but I’ve never had the opportunity to try it myself.
Joscal said:
Gravel mode eased me back down really well, clever technology I assume!
I remember Harrys garage review and he was amazed at how good it was in his steep field but I ve never had the opportunity to try it myself.
Folk with manual cars would be familiar with putting the car into first gear and taking their feet off all the pedals to let the car go down the hill under maximal control. Those that used the brake and clutch would come unstuck. I remember Harrys garage review and he was amazed at how good it was in his steep field but I ve never had the opportunity to try it myself.
I suspect these EVs are good at mimicking locking differentials and limiting torque very quickly when slip is detected.
I would have considered taking our Taycan out today, except for the fact that it’s always got some sort of problem sadly. RR got me there with cautious driving, but it’s so easy to fall foul of other cars crashing, getting stuck etc
Joscal said:
I ve just learnt that the Taycan CT is astonishingly good in the snow and ice.
Amazing traction got me up an icy lane where a Cayenne could go no further.
Would have thought the opposite! Must be the low centre of gravity?
EV traction control resolution is next level compared to the blunt instrument of an ICE. Amazing traction got me up an icy lane where a Cayenne could go no further.
Would have thought the opposite! Must be the low centre of gravity?
If you had the choice between a new leased Macan, or a used Taycan ST Turbo, which would you opt for? I was always leaning towards a new Macan when our iX3 goes back, but recently noticed the 8 year battery warranty which got me thinking that a 2-3 year old ST Turbo would be an insane family car for less money than a new Macan. Wife is not convinced (too big and too flashy for the school run) but I can't get one out of my head!
Digester Man said:
If you had the choice between a new leased Macan, or a used Taycan ST Turbo, which would you opt for? I was always leaning towards a new Macan when our iX3 goes back, but recently noticed the 8 year battery warranty which got me thinking that a 2-3 year old ST Turbo would be an insane family car for less money than a new Macan. Wife is not convinced (too big and too flashy for the school run) but I can't get one out of my head!
Having driven a Macan EV 4 and a Taycan CT 4S, I would take the Taycan every time. I thought it was a much better drive. But I would want a gen 2 car for improved reliability risk.From a daily drive perspective I think the Macan has a better (ie smaller) footprint, but that’s about all it has going for it over the Taycan.
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