Road Rally / 1.4 Endurance Rally Cars

Road Rally / 1.4 Endurance Rally Cars

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velocemitch

3,854 posts

228 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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No we don't do any, it's very much frowned on for the public road sections.

There's a fair bit of stuff on utube of the Historics/Targa type stuff on special tests though, here's an example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBXAZePygkM

Some in car stuff from a mad welsh crew on another Historic event here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NobK1lzhRZo

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

206 months

Sunday 2nd June 2013
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that 2nd link is bloomin brilliant!!!! biggrin

velocemitch

3,854 posts

228 months

Sunday 2nd June 2013
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Yes couldn't agree more !!

motorbreath

613 posts

190 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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I bought my last car with endurance rallies in mind - I went Jap thinking it would be reliable! rolleyes A Honda Civic 1.4 Ep1 (2003 model) 3dr with no air con (quite a rare option apparently). I looked at Rover 25's / 200's but thought head gasket issues would be a pain in the back side so decided to look else where, then a puma came to mind but I went with the civic as it was local. TBH the civic is under powered by 12bhp and over weight by 100kg compared to the Rover, but from asking around on an endurance forum I came to the conclusion the Jap route would see less yearly rebuilds of components etc.

Unfortunately the car hasn't done me proud so far, over heating issues has lead me to believe that the head might be on the way out so I should of bought a rover in the first place hehe smile

Lightweight Jap such as a Suzuki swift gti or 106 Rallyes seem to do well but the vast majority run Rover Mg's.

As for autosolos, I did FDMC's events last year in my clio cup, learnt a lot about car control which I knew in theory but it was good fun putting it into practise. So get out there and have a go is what I suggest, dosent have to be in your endurance car if you don't have it right now.

Have fun biggrin

P I Staker

3,308 posts

164 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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How can I find out about doing this in Scotland?

Mighty Flex

909 posts

179 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Stumbled upon this thread randomly - does anyone use Polos/Lupos/Arosas in this type of event? Just a possibility for the distant future of the Arosa. Maybe.

velocemitch

3,854 posts

228 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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P I Staker said:
How can I find out about doing this in Scotland?
I'm afraid you would struggle with Endurance Rallying in Scotland, the furthest north those events get seem to be the North Midlands. However have a look here;

http://www.nescro.co.uk/n/

Many of the Rallies covered by NESCRO allow modern cars to run using a Targa permit, this is more relaxed than Endurance anyway, so depending on what car you have might suit you.

velocemitch

3,854 posts

228 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Mighty Flex said:
Stumbled upon this thread randomly - does anyone use Polos/Lupos/Arosas in this type of event? Just a possibility for the distant future of the Arosa. Maybe.
No reason why not, I think there is a class for smaller engined stuff. Do a google search for the events and have a look at the entry lists and results, you will see what people run and also what is competitive.

motorbreath

613 posts

190 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Don't know if any one has been on this site already but the forum is ace for up and coming Endurance / road rally events.

A wealth of knowledge on tap from most of the endurance teams. To gain access you need to email for the password which only takes two secs...

http://www.mandh-photography.co.uk/forum.php

I've defo seen a Lupo being put to good use on here, the photo gallery might give you some inspiration as well!? smile

Edit: I just checked the for sale section and there's a fully kitted out 106 rallye at £2.5k and a rover 200 for a little less up for grabs

Edited by motorbreath on Monday 10th June 20:38

velocemitch

3,854 posts

228 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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I can never get my registration to work on that site for some reason.

Other useful places are the 'British Rally Forum' and British Road Rallying on Facebook. Lots going on if you search it out. smile

robg2

304 posts

223 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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velocemitch said:
I can never get my registration to work on that site for some reason.
Keep trying - it's a lot less irritating than the BRF...

velocemitch

3,854 posts

228 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Scabies is a lot less irritating than the BRF (sometimes is)......

Ranger 6

7,196 posts

257 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
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rofl

YorkshirePudding

2,120 posts

193 months

Thursday 13th June 2013
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velocemitch said:
Mighty Flex said:
Stumbled upon this thread randomly - does anyone use Polos/Lupos/Arosas in this type of event? Just a possibility for the distant future of the Arosa. Maybe.
No reason why not, I think there is a class for smaller engined stuff. Do a google search for the events and have a look at the entry lists and results, you will see what people run and also what is competitive.
There's a Polo, entered in the novices, behind you on Sat Ian.

aka_kerrly

12,490 posts

218 months

Thursday 13th June 2013
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Don't overlook the VW Polo 1.4 16v, it's 100hp in standard form but the engine responds well to breathing mods and headwork (if modifying is allowed) and you can take a LOT of weight out of them.

This is a chap I know, his is an ex rally car so built to quite a high specification but proves rather competitive.

Any repair parts and panels are dirt cheap - well I sold him my old Polo 16v for £150 and that has donated huge amounts of metal work to keep this one running & jumping ;-)


velocemitch

3,854 posts

228 months

Thursday 13th June 2013
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YorkshirePudding said:
velocemitch said:
Mighty Flex said:
Stumbled upon this thread randomly - does anyone use Polos/Lupos/Arosas in this type of event? Just a possibility for the distant future of the Arosa. Maybe.
No reason why not, I think there is a class for smaller engined stuff. Do a google search for the events and have a look at the entry lists and results, you will see what people run and also what is competitive.
There's a Polo, entered in the novices, behind you on Sat Ian.
Oh yeah, so there is....
'43 Richard duddell Knutsford Philip Vokes Knutsford &DMC VW Polo YN51 YPY Novice'
I'm guessing the Navigators related to Mathew Vokes, if some of Mathew's ability has rubbed off they will do OK smile

On the 1.4 Polo as an Endurance Car, I'm sure it would be fine, but Engine mods are very limited by the rules and although 100BHP is a superb output for a 1400, I can't say the one in our Fabia feels like its horses are as big as some others I know of. It's lovely smooth unit, but doesn't have much 'go'. The K series in the Rovers would eat it for breakfast.