RE: Official: 2022 INEOS Grenadier priced from £49k
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fblm said:
DonkeyApple said:
I don't think that's an uncommon perspective but it's obvious that there's more than a few people who like a bit of a s
te wagon with a pretty unique character. I think you'd have to be a bit unhinged to say that they were ergonomically awesome cars but it's all part of the charm.
For sure, there is something quite cool about an old defender, I get that and you don't need to look further than current prices to see how popular they are but where does that leave the Grenadier? For people who want a new shyte car but not quite as shyte as an old defender? For the price of a new defender. I'm not seeing it. te wagon with a pretty unique character. I think you'd have to be a bit unhinged to say that they were ergonomically awesome cars but it's all part of the charm. Passion, want, function, form??
There is no rational reason to buy a Caterham, but people do. Indeed I see you have Ferrari F40 listed in your profile. An awesome machine I'm sure, but arguably a dreadful car! Why have you got one?
Schermerhorn said:
I'm surprised they aren't flogging these to armies around the world.
Er, small un-protected 4x4's are really not terribly useful to the modern army, and old skool armies haven't got the cash to dump on exoensive vehicles like this. For fleet buyers you could almost certainly get two japanese pickups for the price of one Grenadire, and that old 50 cal is a lot easier to mount in the back of the pickups......Tax Dodge said:
I don't think we will be seeing many of these on the school run. Outside of the farmyard I can't see much use for one. A bit pricey for something that looks like a Russian military vehicle, just before it gets blow to pieces.
That is part of its attraction.G Wagen had military origins, Russian Lada Niva(?) Still fit for purpose. There is room in the market for rugged looks. Didn't a few Mummies - not in the Egyptian sense- turn up at the school gates in Isuzu Troopers?
valiant said:
Wonder what depreciation will be like…
It had better be niggle free out of the box as you don’t want the internet to be filled with customers complaining about faults and let’s face it, you can do all the testing in the world but nothing replicates real world testing with real life customers.
Initially, I suspect it will appreciate in value. After the novelty wears off, it will depend on reliability. I like it incidentally.It had better be niggle free out of the box as you don’t want the internet to be filled with customers complaining about faults and let’s face it, you can do all the testing in the world but nothing replicates real world testing with real life customers.
DaveyBoyWonder said:
chrisironside said:
This looks like China state-sponsored a Land Rover rival twenty years ago but shelved it, and have now come back to it adding in touchscreens.
Thought the same. Looks like a Russian army vehicle in that its dimensions just look a little bit "off" to me.Edited by Lester H on Thursday 5th May 20:50
Lester H said:
valiant said:
Wonder what depreciation will be like…
It had better be niggle free out of the box as you don’t want the internet to be filled with customers complaining about faults and let’s face it, you can do all the testing in the world but nothing replicates real world testing with real life customers.
Initially, I suspect it will appreciate in value. After the novelty wears off, it will depend on reliability. I like it incidentally.It had better be niggle free out of the box as you don’t want the internet to be filled with customers complaining about faults and let’s face it, you can do all the testing in the world but nothing replicates real world testing with real life customers.
Digga said:
If they can nail it together properly, there are plenty who will want it. It could even make a name for itself as a proper offroader in developing nations. It just needs to be utterly faultless and dependable. As you say, only time can prove it.
Whilst i totally agree about the reliability point (which is indeed make or break) i'm not sure that many in developing nations "need" a £50k starting price 4x4?You could buy two cheap jap pickups for the same money after all.......
Max_Torque said:
Digga said:
If they can nail it together properly, there are plenty who will want it. It could even make a name for itself as a proper offroader in developing nations. It just needs to be utterly faultless and dependable. As you say, only time can prove it.
Whilst i totally agree about the reliability point (which is indeed make or break) i'm not sure that many in developing nations "need" a £50k starting price 4x4?You could buy two cheap jap pickups for the same money after all.......
You won't get the farmers out of HiLuxes, but the tier above would look at them.
Max_Torque said:
Digga said:
If they can nail it together properly, there are plenty who will want it. It could even make a name for itself as a proper offroader in developing nations. It just needs to be utterly faultless and dependable. As you say, only time can prove it.
Whilst i totally agree about the reliability point (which is indeed make or break) i'm not sure that many in developing nations "need" a £50k starting price 4x4?You could buy two cheap jap pickups for the same money after all.......
why put a modern BMW engine in a car thats being marketed as rugged and dependable? About the only thing you can depend on is engine warning lights, excessive oil consumption and overpriced parts made with the same quality as a kinder egg suprise. Something like a Toyota V6 would have been much more inkeeping with the concept and probably would be a good chunk cheaper to source too.
LP670 said:
why put a modern BMW engine in a car thats being marketed as rugged and dependable? About the only thing you can depend on is engine warning lights, excessive oil consumption and overpriced parts made with the same quality as a kinder egg suprise. Something like a Toyota V6 would have been much more inkeeping with the concept and probably would be a good chunk cheaper to source too.
Toyota have the Landcrusier. Same target market. LP670 said:
why put a modern BMW engine in a car thats being marketed as rugged and dependable? About the only thing you can depend on is engine warning lights, excessive oil consumption and overpriced parts made with the same quality as a kinder egg suprise. Something like a Toyota V6 would have been much more inkeeping with the concept and probably would be a good chunk cheaper to source too.
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