Ineos Grenadier customer cars arrive at dealers
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Would like to get a good look at one. I thought they were supposed to be priced in the 40's, seems like they're going to be a lot more than that.
Exterior styling doesn't look great IMO, the front bumper looks like it's of a 70's US spec BMW.
Quite liked the interior styling though.
Hats off to the team for getting it out the door as a fully realised product, look forward to the reviews.
Exterior styling doesn't look great IMO, the front bumper looks like it's of a 70's US spec BMW.
Quite liked the interior styling though.
Hats off to the team for getting it out the door as a fully realised product, look forward to the reviews.
ZedLeg said:
Website says the base one starts at £58k and the two launch specced models are both £69k. So they're clearly expecting them to sell at that price, even at £58k I'd rather spend half that on a decent Defender or G-Wagen.
Dreaming at 70k after the initial novelty wears off. 300bhp/ton said:
I believe the cars are being held until around the 28th Feb for collection, although customers have been allowed to view their cars. Which are now arriving at Swiss dealers.
There is also a big media event happening in N Scotland, but restrictions apply until the 8th Feb, so unlikely to see anything published before then.
Simply loving that blue colour
Walk around of a customer vehicle at a dealership.
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I guess of note, there were some very vocal PH users that seem to have nothing but hatred and contempt for this vehicle, swearing blind it would never see the light of day and that they were infallibly correct on this (you know who you are, or I could link thread/post user names
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I wonder, are any of you prepared to eat humble pie and say you were wrong?
It remains a truly horrible looking mess. There is also a big media event happening in N Scotland, but restrictions apply until the 8th Feb, so unlikely to see anything published before then.
Simply loving that blue colour
Walk around of a customer vehicle at a dealership.
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I guess of note, there were some very vocal PH users that seem to have nothing but hatred and contempt for this vehicle, swearing blind it would never see the light of day and that they were infallibly correct on this (you know who you are, or I could link thread/post user names
)I wonder, are any of you prepared to eat humble pie and say you were wrong?
I just love the amount of switches splashed all over the interior, it's the kind of car I'd love to have just to press switches all day (I have a Disco Sport and lots is on the touch screen).
Rest of it isn't to my taste but if someone wants to buy one good luck to them, we need more variety in life.
Would be annoyed if that was my car just sat there for a month for no obvious reason, either don't announce anything or let me have it.
Rest of it isn't to my taste but if someone wants to buy one good luck to them, we need more variety in life.
Would be annoyed if that was my car just sat there for a month for no obvious reason, either don't announce anything or let me have it.
ZedLeg said:
Yes, thank you. I'm aware they don't make new Defenders anymore but the whole point of them is that you can pick up a 25 year old one and it would be much the same as a new one.
Well no, as just established you can't get new ones, so it wouldn't be. Unless you mean the new Defender, but that isn't remotely similar.If you mean a Tdi/Td5 vs the last of the line Puma's. Then still a no really. Lots of changes happened over the years.
SmithCorona said:
You're clearly passionate about the Grenadier, I'm just not sure that the demand for a £70k SUV with solid axles is there.
Sorry, but where have you been living? No meaning it in a nasty way, but there are simply loads of live axle vehicles available, many vastly more expensive.Newsflash, the world is bigger than the UK market and where you live.
Have you never heard of a Land Cruiser 70 Series?
How about a Jeep Wrangler? The top model of these is £100k!!!
Ford Bronco maybe?
G-Wagen?
Come on man, you must have heard of an F150 or a Dodge Ram?
Or is it still a no?
Maybe you'd like to use Google and check some prices out.
Honestly, there are loads of proper live axle off road worth vehicles on sale covering prices from £20k through to £140k+
You also seem to be a little off on the price of the Ineos, by £15,000 on the starting price.
Now it is a lot of money (too much for my bank account sadly
), but its right on the ballpark of anything comparable.SmithCorona said:
I'd agree that the Grenadier is better specced, not sure about more capable and I'll be curious to see how reliability is once they start getting used.
Reliability, yes always something to consider to a greater or lesser degree. But in reality it is the same for every make/model, the Grenadier isn't anything different here. And lets face it, Land Rover and Jeep products are vastly popular (the latter in the USA and non EU markets). Yet the usually rank low in things like the JD Power surveys. Doesn't seem to stop people buying the products though.The only thing I would say, the Grenadier does appear is massively over engineered. They have also had a very extensive and publicised development period being very open with what they have done/doing. Unless they are very unlucky I'd suspect reliability will be very good.
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