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Does anyone know of a kitcar that has used a Ducati twin successfully? I know there is arguments that it is a stupid idea as it has drawbacks, but I really fancy building a Ducati powered car just because I can. I know the Phoenix has been fitted with a twin in the past amongst others, but has anyone have first hand experience?
That's a shame as I specifically fancied a Ducati for the Italian'ness of it all. I have a feeling after nearly 40,000 miles my R1 surely must be due replacing at some point. ( however it just did a 13.4 1/4 mile at the Brighton Speed Trials on road tyres on Madeira Drive so it is by no means knackered yet ) . Just fancy doing something left-field if I strip it back to a bare chassis.
What are the stats of this TL motor anyway?
What are the stats of this TL motor anyway?
Furyblade_Lee said:
Does anyone know of a kitcar that has used a Ducati twin successfully? I know there is arguments that it is a stupid idea as it has drawbacks, but I really fancy building a Ducati powered car just because I can. I know the Phoenix has been fitted with a twin in the past amongst others, but has anyone have first hand experience?
This ia a nice project with a Ducati 1098 engine, the Spartan V2, check their website for info :http://www.spartan-v.com/www.spartan-v.com/Home.ht...
A few images from the web
Nice idea but sound like a bag of spanners, belt change every 10 years, unlikely to be as reliable as a IL4, won't be as smooth etc etc. I had an R1 fisher fury and now have an R1 on its own 
I get the thinking behind it but probably not worth it.
That thing a few posts above is porn though, but I do have a thing for massive velocity stacks
I get the thinking behind it but probably not worth it.
That thing a few posts above is porn though, but I do have a thing for massive velocity stacks
If you want a Reliable V twin that is Italian and has been used in MANY kit cars take a look at the Moto guzzi
They are even shaft drive out the gearbox so you can get a shaft made up straight to a diff if you so wish.
The engines and gearboxes are used in
Trikings
JZR's
BRA's
just the engines are used in
Blackjacks
Lomax's
Pembletons
They are even shaft drive out the gearbox so you can get a shaft made up straight to a diff if you so wish.
The engines and gearboxes are used in
Trikings
JZR's
BRA's
just the engines are used in
Blackjacks
Lomax's
Pembletons
slomax said:
If you want a Reliable V twin that is Italian and has been used in MANY kit cars take a look at the Moto guzzi
They are even shaft drive out the gearbox so you can get a shaft made up straight to a diff if you so wish.
The engines and gearboxes are used in
Trikings
JZR's
BRA's
just the engines are used in
Blackjacks
Lomax's
Pembletons
That'll be a performance let down after an r1 or versus the sheer grunt of a 1098.They are even shaft drive out the gearbox so you can get a shaft made up straight to a diff if you so wish.
The engines and gearboxes are used in
Trikings
JZR's
BRA's
just the engines are used in
Blackjacks
Lomax's
Pembletons
Rsv Mille isn't a bad option but again probably won't match up to the R1 or duc in terms of power, I like how they have dry sump as standard though.
You considered cross plane crank R1? Best of both worlds, IL4 smoothness with twin like grunt.
P.s didn't even realise it was you lee, doh!
Edited by Yazza54 on Saturday 29th September 23:57
TheLastPost said:
If you want to be really offbeat (and very definitely Italian), try the Moto Morini Corsaro.
A fantastic engine, but limited in quantity and expensive....check their new website:http://www.motomorinimotorcycles.eu/
TheLastPost said:
Not especially expensive when compared to the more powerful Ducatis though?
And they were at least (when I spoke to them) receptive to the idea of selling you a single, crate engine - unlike some manufacturers, who will expect you to buy a whole bike or wait for someone to fall off one so that you can pick up the remains at the breakers. The game has moved on a bit, but when it was launched the Corsaro offered the best compromise between peak power and torque spread of any of the big V-twins I looked at.
Biggest worry would be whether they'll be here to supply spare parts a few years down the line, though.
True and that is why I had consdered it for a design project...did they quote you a price for the crate engine ? I would be interested to know.And they were at least (when I spoke to them) receptive to the idea of selling you a single, crate engine - unlike some manufacturers, who will expect you to buy a whole bike or wait for someone to fall off one so that you can pick up the remains at the breakers. The game has moved on a bit, but when it was launched the Corsaro offered the best compromise between peak power and torque spread of any of the big V-twins I looked at.
Biggest worry would be whether they'll be here to supply spare parts a few years down the line, though.
Still think the engine layout is all wrong, there's a reason that Ducati L twin has been installed lengthways in the back of the car posted on the first page.. No doubt chain driven. To put the output shaft inline with the prop in a Phoenix or fury would we a pain in the arse. Would be surprised if it'd fit under the bonnet without some serious mods and in the end you'll have something less reliable and much more costly than the R1. If it was me I'd pick a low miles 09-current cross plane r1 engine package up. Or something nuts like a zx14.
Don't think the V twin would suit you Lee.
I'd go for the best of both worlds and fit a big bang R1. Sounds great and has about the same power you have now or slightly more... and did I mention, they sound great?
Turn the volume up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sJJRILwvos
I'd go for the best of both worlds and fit a big bang R1. Sounds great and has about the same power you have now or slightly more... and did I mention, they sound great?
Turn the volume up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sJJRILwvos
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