DVLA 8 Point Rule for Radically Altered Vehicles

[dabigginger]

I recently came across this article online: https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-...

I was wondering, when did this come into place? I've been Googling high and low and can only see mentions of this in forums and websites from about the last 5 years or so. I've got a car that has had some work done in the past that would make it fall foul of this. I can undo the changes that would bring it above 8 points, but assuming the rule isn't retrospective, I'd rather not...

[TooMany2cvs]

dabigginger said:

I recently came across this article online: https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-...

I was wondering, when did this come into place?

The late '90s.

[dabigginger]

Perfect, thanks

[Happy Jim]

In the beginning there was nothing.
Then DVLA brought in the Q plate system for bitsa's.
Then the DVLA brought in the 8 points thing in order to retain the year of the original car (note, not the same registration plate just the year).
Then SVA was introduced******
Then IVA was introduced

• ****Prior to the introduction of the SVA test there was a period of amnesty for Vehicles of dubious parentage in which the owners merely had to apply for correct registration and bingo they were correctly registered. Then the amnesty was ended and SVA introduced.

So in reality if you still have a chopped up "thing" incorrectly registered as the original vehicle....you are technically falling foul of the law (and should run it through IVA, pass the test, then get issued with age related if you meet the 8 point rule, or a Q plate if not). Whether you get caught out or not is a different matter.

Rgds

Jim

[S47]

It use to be easy to check if the vehicle was correctly registered, just read the displayed tax disc, if car was a Dutton and tax disc said 'Dutton' like mine did then it was correctly registered.
Alternatively If like one of my mates it say', s 'Ford' on tax disc then DVLA have not been informed of the 'Radically altered Vehicle'.
Sadly i still know of several Very Nice kits - including Cobra's, GT40's, etc that have not been correctly registered.
However one mate has a Kit built Cobra, which is registered as an AC - Quite how he managed that I don't know?
Moral is I guess anythings possible
Buyers beware

[GinG15]

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

ringing cars are reported in above thread

[spaximus]

S47 said:

It use to be easy to check if the vehicle was correctly registered, just read the displayed tax disc, if car was a Dutton and tax disc said 'Dutton' like mine did then it was correctly registered.
Alternatively If like one of my mates it say', s 'Ford' on tax disc then DVLA have not been informed of the 'Radically altered Vehicle'.
Sadly i still know of several Very Nice kits - including Cobra's, GT40's, etc that have not been correctly registered.
However one mate has a Kit built Cobra, which is registered as an AC - Quite how he managed that I don't know?
Moral is I guess anythings possible
Buyers beware

It all depends on when they were originally built and registered. In the pre SVA days it was not uncommon for a local DVLA office to just change an escort V5 to read something like Ford Two door convertible, or Triumph special.

Something that has a Dutton log book, which is clearly say a Westfield, is a ringer.

[GinG15]

spaximus said:

It all depends on when they were originally built and registered. In the pre SVA days it was not uncommon for a local DVLA office to just change an escort V5 to read something like Ford Two door convertible, or Triumph special.

Something that has a Dutton log book, which is clearly say a Westfield, is a ringer.

when sva came into force, pre-sva cars got an amnesty period to correct/update their v5c.
cars which (deliberately) missed that period are nowadays considered as "incorrectly registered", hence illegaly on the road, even they have a valid MOT (and there are still lots of those cars driving around)

if you have enough prove about the car´s history, you might have still the chance to get the v5c corrected/updated, even today. but you cannot insist on that and maybe end with being sent to IVA.

Edited by GinG15 on Saturday 4th February 10:56

[SDB660]

TooMany2cvs said:

dabigginger said:

I recently came across this article online: https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-...

I was wondering, when did this come into place?

The late '90s.

Believe it was circa 1978.

[JimexPL]

SDB660 said:

Believe it was circa 1978.

I think Q plates came in during the 70's, but the points system wasn't until the late 90's.
I've had a 1968 Series IIa since 1995 that was heavily modified by the previous owner in 1992. We checked with the DVLA when buying it that it was fine with the identity, and they were.
Ironically, going by the points system I should get it re-registered as a 1971 Range Rover (chassis, axles, transmission, engine) which would be worth considerably more than my 'hybrid'.

[Fastpedeller]

JimexPL said:

I've had a 1968 Series IIa since 1995 that was heavily modified by the previous owner in 1992. We checked with the DVLA when buying it that it was fine with the identity, and they were.
.

Was it in writing/using a form of some sort? My question is because when I bought a Rickman Ranger (described on V5 as Ford Rickman Ranger) a few years ago (not my present one), and 'phoned DVLA before I bought it they wouldn't commit, just saying 'it should be ok'

[supaimpy]

1998 , that's why the new rules around MOT and mods sit as 30 years, at that point there was a period when you could declare and avoid SVA as it was then.

If your doesn't meet the 8 point rule then legally it requires testing to be re registered , at that point it will regain its full points quota , but won't be considered as a VHI when it reaches 40 is my understanding of it . It won't defo get a Q , they may assign a period plate, so if you have an interesting plate move it before starting the process.

Dont be confused by the period mods part of the mot changes , the mods affect its legal registration.