Registering a race car on the road

Registering a race car on the road

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nightSpirit

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168 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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Old topic I'm sure...I thought this might be the best place to post!

I'm in the process of buying a race car (Clio V6 Trophy) from Europe. The car has no VIN and has only ever been raced. I have a dream....of bringing it to the UK and road registering the thing for some weekend fun and track days. It's a 2003 car, I'd be collecting it on a trailer and bringing into the UK, the documentation is limited about the race series it was used in but I'd get an invoice for the car to show I own it.

From what I can tell, I'd need to raise it (fully adjustable but rock hard Ohlins), fit a horn, side repeaters and handbrake. It seems to have fully working lights, wipers/washers, reverse gear (sadev sequential box). So I don't think (eternally optimistic) that it will need much there.

The thing I can't understand is what do I need to do to get a VIN plate, get a V5 and then get it tested. I've read a few threads around the internet about Renault basically not providing a certificate of conformity for race cars, especially where there's no VIN...so what are my options here? It's also LHD which could have an impact on things.

Any advise or direction of where to look would be greatly appreciated but please, restrain any comments saying 'why???' smile I've had a road legal Radical SR3 so I'm not all there clearly biggrin

Happy Jim

968 posts

239 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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DVLA will issue you a VIN on request, you’ll then have to go through IVA at a guess and end up with a Q plate.

Rgds

Jim

foggy

1,158 posts

282 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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I presume you’d need to go down the road of an Individual Vehicle Approval (IVA) test and make sure you meet all the requirements. The IVA manual is available to download online listing everything you need to do. Asking somewhere like www.locostbuilders.co.uk might be worthwhile as there’s a lot of knowledge and experience there about the IVA test.

There was also the Model Report route IIRC, a lot of jap import vehicles are approved under them but I’d be surprised if one exists for the Clio.

nightSpirit

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168 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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Thanks guys,

It sounds straight forward enough? I apply for a VIN, then IVA, then MOT and away we go! I met the guys at locost years and years ago...great idea to ask them about an IVA kit smile

mikeveal

4,571 posts

250 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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Yes IVA.
Things that immediately spring to mind
Headlights will need to be changed to UK spec,
You'll need to meet radius rules. Might be a problem inside if panels have been removed.
If the standard seatbelts have been replaced with harnesses, they'll want evidence that the mount points are correctly constructed. If they can't be seen on the submitted car, expect to be asked for proof (photos). They may get uppity if the mountings are to points on the chassis not originally intended as seatbelt mounts.

All of my experience is with SVA not IVA, so don't take my word for any of the above, get a copy of the manual and start reading.

nightSpirit

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168 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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Thank you,

It's never had belts only harnesses that are fitted to the chassis and substantial (because racecar). From what I can tell it has heated screen, wipers, washer, headlights (LHD), rear lights, reverse gear, height adjustment, indicators. So I'll need at least handbrake (hydraulic??), hazard switch, horn, fog light and audible alerts? The radius thing could be interesting...I do hope I can get it on the road without a) too much cost b) too much compromise to what the car is.


foggy

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282 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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Pay particular attention to wiring too. If I remember rightly things need shrouding/mounting 'properly' i.e. similar to OEM installations, rather than simply cable tying in place. It'll be things like that and radius/sharp edges, mounting and routing of fuel lines etc. that trip take the time and effort, but don't add any real functionality I expect.

nightSpirit

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168 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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Thanks Foggy..when I get the car, I'll get the manual and assess smile

mikeveal

4,571 posts

250 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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nightSpirit said:
Thank you,

It's never had belts only harnesses that are fitted to the chassis and substantial (because racecar).
If not original manufacturer mount points, expect to show your workings. Yes it might look obvious to you, but it may not get accepted without proof that the manufacturer considers the new non standard mounts to be good.
As I say my experience is not with IVA, so check. The easiest way out is to replace the harnesses with OEM belts, even though the harness will clearly be far better than OEM seatbelts.

I was guessing the interior had been stripped. Radius rules will definitely apply and you will come a cropper.

nightSpirit

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168 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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Here's an example of the interior..



Can anyone say whether something like this would be impossible to do or require so much work it's not feasible (and will modify what the car is)?

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

113 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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if it has passed any decent scrutineering, then it is likely the anchorages meet the strength requirements. Big thing to watch for is heights and position.

nightSpirit

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Wednesday 8th November 2017
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well it was built by Renault factory for their race series...would hope it's decently done? :?

Todd Bonzalez

2,552 posts

162 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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Radius rule is a red herring in my experience. You'll be surprised how small a 2.5mm rad is. I don't think I've ever seen anything fall foul other than bare cut metal.

One of my mates made a GT3 Gallardo road legal "without much hassle really."


nightSpirit

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168 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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That is stunning....

Would be good to hear from anyone who has gone through the process? The dash etc on the Clio isn't 'pointy' because who'd get into it and race if it could easily and visibly kill them? biggrin

Mark

mikeveal

4,571 posts

250 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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nightSpirit said:
well it was built by Renault factory for their race series...would hope it's decently done? :?
(about the harnesses)That's exactly the sort of answer that the tester will want!
Your interior doesn't look too bad, but read up on the radius rule and make your own mind up

nightSpirit

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Wednesday 8th November 2017
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Somebody has done it it seems...this car was for sale a while back with a V5. You can spot the fuel gauge and hazard switch in the centre console.

PaulKemp

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145 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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As said before your best place to ask questions is Locostbuilders but don’t forget that DVSA (was VOSA) will answer questions and the IVA testers at Norwich we’re helpful.
If you fail IVA then for a small fee you can retest on the fail points only

nightSpirit

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Wednesday 8th November 2017
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Thank you Paul...I'll give them a shout!

ugg10

681 posts

217 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Two other things to look out for on IVA if it is an ex race car - emissions, will have to meet the standard based on the engine age which you will probably need a letter from Renault confirming age )i.e. will need a cat fitting) and noise limits, will need a decently quiet exhaust and is tested at half max power (3k rpm ish) at something like 100dB at 1m (check manual). Brake balance also will need checking i.e. rear must not lock up first and will need demist system for the front screen and operating wipers/washers. As said, download the manual, go through and check everything off and see what needs doing.

Had similar thoughts about an ex race Ginetta G40 which is in a similar position of having a road going version.

nightSpirit

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Thursday 9th November 2017
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Thank you again, I'll do my homework smile