Registering a race car on the road

Registering a race car on the road

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Kevp

582 posts

251 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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With regard to your interior.

When I IVAd my kit car a few years ago I had a long list of internal failure's to sort. If it looked like yours he would still be writing the list out now.

Basically no sharp/square objects. I had to fit padding to the roll cage (the standard foam ie pipe lagging was not acceptable due to degradation and had to be protected with a vinyl/leatherette sock). The switches (similar to yours) had to be changed to flat rocker style, unless you can prove they will fall off if knocked. I had to cover my lower gear lever and handbrake. I found the best way was to fit carpet every where, then remove it. It may be a good idea to make a MDF box over the controls ect and hide as much as you can. Cover everything that is not required for an MOT.

But as said my experience was a few years ago and the exameners would certainly not have passed a MEV, and there are a lot of those about now. I now have to try and register mine in France. My initial enquiries with officials have returned a big NO.

All the best and I look forward to reading your positive progress.

K.

nightSpirit

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1,057 posts

168 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Well thank you for the input and honesty! It would be good to get a pre test to tell me what's wrong before I do anything!

Todd Bonzalez

2,552 posts

162 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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The interior rad rule has to do with a 30cm(?) ball contacting an edge iirc? So if you want to keep your switches etc just box them in with something that doesn’t have sharp edges potentially. I’d confirm this with your local station but I’m sure that was the case (a few years back).

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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For interior stuff, get the IVA manual, then buy a couple of polystyrene balls from ebay (they're sold for craft use). You can get them in virtually the same size as the balls the testers use for the interior projection tests. Then you can see where you're likely to run into problems for a few pennies.

I'd expect some carpet or rubber trim on some of the exposed stuff around the console. The switches will need changing or you can use round bar to make guards (like the new minis have around their toggle switches). The edges of the fuse box covers and things might be an issue so you may need to cover them.

You'll need a cable handbrake, not hydraulic (it has to be mechanically locked on).
Noise & emissions - 99db at 75% rpm from memory. Emissions based on engine age.

IME the testers are quite realistic and reasonable so I wouldn't expect issues with harness mounts etc since it's all going to be FIA approved.

nightSpirit

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1,057 posts

168 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Really good suggestion on the balls. Can anyone tell me the costs to get a vin, iva test etc? Everything that's process and not the hardware cost?

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Vin is free, just ask DVLA (or is it DVSA now?) for one.
IVA cost - it'll be on here, somewhere, https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/individual-veh...
as is the manual: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/iva-man...

A few years back, the price was around £400 quid, then another 100-odd for the virtually-inevitable retest. You can drive it there and back without it being road legal, or you can trailer it - if so, you need to budget for that if you don't already have one.

It's good to budget at least a grand for the test and any rectification you need to do.

nightSpirit

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1,057 posts

168 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Thank you for that! Most helpful. Slowly getting thoughts together now...

RussBost

82 posts

107 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Just a glance at the interior & I can tell you it would be a nightmare at IVA - HOWEVER, if you can prove the age of the vehicle then I don't believe it would need IVA as it is over 10 years old https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/exemptions-fro...

I believe the rule was actually put in place to cover things like already registered vehicles (registered abroad) if imported, in that instance all they need is an MoT, which would mean making lights etc comply but a helluva lot easier than IVA. However TTBOMK there is nothing that says it DOESN'T apply to a race car. It would certainly be worth speaking to DVLA about it, I would suggest by email so you get things in writing & I would suggest you don't mention it is a race car, but simply that it doesn't have a chassis no.

Incidentally why doesn't it have a chassis no.? Irrelevant of being a race car the shell should still have the no., etched into the turret top at that age I would have thought, you are sure it defo doesn't have a VIN no. anywhere, doesn't need to be on a chassis plate, if it's stamped or etched anywhere that's all you need

nightSpirit

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1,057 posts

168 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Thank you...I'm saying that a lot. Apparently Renault can provide proof of age. It's a 2003 so worth a go as MOT only would be brilliant. It does have a number plaque in a few places but not a proper vin I'm told.

spyder dryver

1,329 posts

216 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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Don't expect an easy ride from DVLA regarding the ten year rule. Or any sort of ride, come to that!
A few years ago friend of mine bought a 1986 kit car which had been built up ready to go over the following few years. The builder unfortunately died so the car never went on the road. His widow kept the car up to my friend buying it. It is a perfect "time warp" example. He has photo evidence of the build, letters from the builder's widow, letter from the car company etc., all to no avail.
He took the case to the Independent adjudicator, then his MP, then the Parliamentary ombudsman. They all took the DVLA's view who refused to accept the car's condition without a ten year old MOT cert to back it up.
He is presently preparing the car for IVA.
If your car has any sort of Motorsport log book then that might work, but the lack of any VIN precludes any definite identity attribution.
I think you will need to request a VIN and jump through the required hoops.

ASM993

113 posts

221 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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I wonder if getting it road registered in Europe where I assume you’re getting it fro my be easier. It’s an interesting alternative and I,portent question. Getting it imported to the uk on that registration should give you the age related plate I suppose.anyone tried this?

nightSpirit

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1,057 posts

168 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Interesting thought on the Euro registration. The car will hopefully move to Sweden in a few years time. I was going to bring it to the UK and get it all sorted before shipping it over (I have more time in the UK at the moment).