So you sold your Ultima, what do you build next Answer is !

So you sold your Ultima, what do you build next Answer is !

Author
Discussion

GTRCLIVE

Original Poster:

4,149 posts

244 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
Well after playing with the 962 for a couple of years I have a little more understanding of under body aero. Not by any means saying I’m now a aero expert but questions I had over the 962 rounder leading edge at the very front and what seemed like a squeezing of the air instead of a flat floor before the diffuser now make sense to me. It’s all to do with the stagnation point in front of the car, the point at which the air has to make a decision to under or over the body. The air going under tends to separate from a flat bottomed car so you loose control over it. The way you get it back is to add rake to the under surface of the car, this then regains the air so any diffuser at the back then becomes effective again... A 962 is flat And has very little rake if none at all but it removes any chance of a boundary layer forming by pressurizing the air as it goes under the front. This then gives you a much better and earlier chance to start Accelerating the air with a longer and now more effective diffuser. To many I know this might be boring but to me it was a lift bulb moment, and meant Some minor changes the front splitter and under the side pods area might help my goals of a proper working ground effect car. So I’m excited to get back to the body work stage now this winter.... once the snow starts falling here then I’ll be happy as a clan working back on the old girl...

GTRCLIVE

Original Poster:

4,149 posts

244 months

Friday 18th December 2020
quotequote all
So time to dust off and start the body work again. Been looking forward to this so lets end 2020 on a high...








Thevet

1,492 posts

194 months

Friday 18th December 2020
quotequote all
Clive you're like Santa.....we only hear from you once a year biglaugh
Hope all is well and that there is more news on this build soon.

GTRCLIVE

Original Poster:

4,149 posts

244 months

Saturday 19th December 2020
quotequote all
Yes its been a long move and new shop build..... never moving again unless I win the Lotto, and even then I'd pay someone else to build what ever the bigger dream shop would be while I'm still working in this one... .so its looking up and up on the car builds now...

GTRCLIVE

Original Poster:

4,149 posts

244 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
quotequote all


Had to do a quick wheels alignment and camber adjust before committing to the wheels positions for the body work. Trail fitted the doors just to be sure there was nothing to far out I have to correct..
Next step is to modify the front splitter to the new design to help aid the under-body aero, and aid the lessened rake the car now has. After that I can really get the car's body finalized for molding....

Edited by GTRCLIVE on Thursday 31st December 03:26

robemcdonald

5,431 posts

157 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
quotequote all
Have you ever been tempted to buy the new ultima body and make it fit?

Yazza54

15,994 posts

142 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
quotequote all
Another question is would ultima sell you one, they can be very funny about people doing their own thing with the cars/parts from what I've heard.

Steve_D

13,181 posts

219 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
quotequote all
Hi Clive
How different is the body style going to be? Do you have any cad images you can share with us.

happy new year

Steve

GTRCLIVE

Original Poster:

4,149 posts

244 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
quotequote all
Well apart from the fact my chassis is taller, wider and has a Longer wheel base than a GTR, err no..... No Ultima parts will find there way into my garage any time soon. As much as other things have kept me busy over the last few years, (962's and moving home/shop ) I'm feeling the need to finish my car and get some road fun back into MY life. I will be building another 962 for sure, but this car needs a happy ending and now I have the space I can keep more than one car build going at the same time.

The more I get back into the build the more I realized I need it to be finished for my own sanity as well....

Anyway Happy New Year to you all

Canada Clive

GTRCLIVE

Original Poster:

4,149 posts

244 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
quotequote all


Steve the body was going to change at the back a lot, but I've since realized I need to finish the car with the present design. The changes could be done later If I ever have the time... so only minor changes for now..

Steve_D

13,181 posts

219 months

Friday 1st January
quotequote all
Well done nice to see it all.
More often gets my vote.

Steve

GTRCLIVE

Original Poster:

4,149 posts

244 months

Sunday 3rd January
quotequote all
Final alteration to the rad frame, and the start of the Wood Buck for the splitter.... Filler tomorrow then paint before mold can be taken...

GTRCLIVE

Original Poster:

4,149 posts

244 months

Wednesday 6th January
quotequote all


First thing to be painted in the clean room.... Buck for the splitter

Yazza54

15,994 posts

142 months

Wednesday 6th January
quotequote all
GTRCLIVE said:
Final alteration to the rad frame, and the start of the Wood Buck for the splitter.... Filler tomorrow then paint before mold can be taken...
Looking good

What's the idea behind the turnbuckle in the top wishbone? I assumed it was for caster adjustment but it looks like your wishbones are bushed so you can't run any misalignment on them anyway?

dom9

7,132 posts

170 months

Wednesday 6th January
quotequote all
962 chassis in the corner of the clean room? Will that project be coming along?

GTRCLIVE

Original Poster:

4,149 posts

244 months

Wednesday 6th January
quotequote all
Rubberized joints on chassis pickup points allows for a few degrees of adjustment. Also have adjuster on the top ball joint to adjust camber on the fly... Once I’m happy with the setup the next set will be fixed.

GTRCLIVE

Original Poster:

4,149 posts

244 months

Wednesday 6th January
quotequote all
dom9 said:
962 chassis in the corner of the clean room? Will that project be coming along?
Next 962 going to be a Tube frame... But ill be making that tub at some point...

dom9

7,132 posts

170 months

Wednesday 6th January
quotequote all
Start a thread for the tube frame and link here please, Clive! The last one was awesome. Assume this will be very similar in design?

Fran Hall does a 962 these days, doesn't he? Assume that uses a variant of his welded aluminium chassis.

Yazza54

15,994 posts

142 months

Wednesday 6th January
quotequote all
GTRCLIVE said:
Rubberized joints on chassis pickup points allows for a few degrees of adjustment. Also have adjuster on the top ball joint to adjust camber on the fly... Once I’m happy with the setup the next set will be fixed.
Yep the camber adjuster looks good, just my experience of rubber bushes at anything other than bang on alignment can bind and cause stiction. But they are the right solution for a road car for sure. Not nit picking just curious as I've been through all this recently with my racing car trying to get enough caster was a nightmare as there was no angle built into the upright to begin with..!

GTRCLIVE

Original Poster:

4,149 posts

244 months

Sunday 10th January
quotequote all
dom9 said:
Start a thread for the tube frame and link here please, Clive! The last one was awesome. Assume this will be very similar in design?

Fran Hall does a 962 these days, doesn't he? Assume that uses a variant of his welded aluminium chassis.
Been a while since I spoke to Fran but as far as I know that never really got of the ground. He was borrowing the molds from the same guy we used with our 962. They cost more to fix than to buy..