RE: Westfield XTR2 - full details

RE: Westfield XTR2 - full details

Tuesday 18th December 2001

Westfield XTR2 - more pics

Mid engined road racer - pictures, prices and spec revealed


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smeagol

Original Poster:

1,947 posts

283 months

Thursday 29th November 2001
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Nice, Good one Westfield, wonder if there will be a racing series based on these cars. Would like to find out the "vital statistics".

JonRB

74,402 posts

271 months

Friday 30th November 2001
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Looks like a baby Le Mans Prototype-class car. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.

bennno

11,515 posts

268 months

Friday 30th November 2001
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looks superb, but it is going to be 30K with all of the toys fitted, yiikes!

adrianr

822 posts

283 months

Friday 30th November 2001
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If you want someone to do a comparitive test between this and the Radical SR3, then you know where to come!

AdrianR

domster

8,431 posts

269 months

Friday 30th November 2001
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Glad to see they're not doing anything original.

First they rip off the seven quite nicely, then they rip off the new radical.

When they tried doing their own thang, the result was a mid-blue colour mid-engined monstrosity that Performance Car spent a whole column laughing at. It had Fiesta headlights and looked really, really sh1t.

Looks like it will undercut the Radical by a few pence, though. I may be interested! I want a windscreen though, like the 340R, as people laugh at you around town if you have a helmet on and I don't fancy stonechipping my forehead.

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 30th November 2001
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oh my word!
incredible is all i can say, it looks good, its going to go well and for 12k, i know it would cost more for the upgrades but they can be purchased at a later date. Westfield have got it right this time and with some luck and good marketing i am sure we eill see these things all over sprints, hill climbs and race circuit at Britain and Europe.
It will be eligible for the same championships that the radical SR3 (there i said it!) is, apart from the radical series, confused yet!?, oh i want i want i want!

"If I'm not looking out of the rear window, I think I can save it"

stevenrt

141 posts

269 months

Friday 30th November 2001
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Is the engine mounted longitudinally in front of the rear axle, or a transverse mount? From the pictures it looks like it has to be a longitudinal mount (which is better), but it would be nice to know for sure.
Looks very nice otherwise.

domster

8,431 posts

269 months

Monday 3rd December 2001
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I assume it is a transverse mount, like most of these bike engined mini Le Mans jobbies - they use a chain drive off the engine/box direct to axle. Wouldn't work longitudinally!

Domster

generator

2 posts

267 months

Monday 3rd December 2001
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Not a bad attempt by Westfield, but have you seen the Genesis? Seen racing at Snetterton and Cadwell with the 750MC in class B. Going class A for 2002. WOW!

Edited by generator on Tuesday 4th December 10:17

d3vine

699 posts

267 months

Tuesday 4th December 2001
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Generator

Are there a website to the Genesis? If not, could you provide us with some information about the car?

adrianr

822 posts

283 months

Tuesday 4th December 2001
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i know it would cost more for the upgrades but they can be purchased at a later date.


Engine, wheels and tyres are an upgrade? You're not a BMW salesman by any chance are you?

AdrianR

mikefield

77 posts

281 months

Saturday 15th December 2001
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Not a bad attempt by Westfield, but have you seen the Genesis? Seen racing at Snetterton and Cadwell with the 750MC in class B. Going class A for 2002. WOW!



Hmm let me remember, 100kg overweight, V slow at both events, and took itself off at Snetterton, all on it's own.

Hmmm V Impressive

d3vine

699 posts

267 months

Monday 17th December 2001
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The Westfield XTR2 is being sold now. They have few pictures of the car on their web site. It's in the news section. The color scheme looks pretty sleek, even the body looks much more streamline than the previous pictures show here. Check it out, I think it would be in great competition with the Radical SR3.

gee_fin

119 posts

282 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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(I'm lazy so I'll crosspost from Blatchat )

I went over to the factory to have a look at the car last week and was very impressed with it.

The build quality was excellent, in my opinion the curves are a lot more interesting than the bland front that is the SR3 and the whole package was stunning.

The car will need to beat the Radicals next year (if it doesn't, what's the point in it?) and if Westfield's claims on weight and power match the handling there is no reason why it shouldn't.

As for cost, well, pricing up an SR3 resulted in hitting the £35k mark very quickly, realistically you're looking at £40k for a complete car with enough useful bits to stop it blowing up. Plus, you _have_ to go factory built. The Westfield would come in at around £27k for a similar spec factory built, or, if you built it yourself, it would be sub-£20k. A sub-£20k, 190bhp, 420kg, road-legal, LeMans prototype-esque car cannot be dismissed easily by anyone but the brand blind.

As for all the anti-Westfield sentiment and calls of 'Radical copy' all I can say is 'bollocks'. The Radical was hardly original, the only orginal thing about it is that it was the first SuperSport-esque car to really push it's one make series hard enough to make it stick.

If the likes of Reynard or ProTune had released the XTR2 somehow I think the sentiments would be very different.

Graeme.

P.S. Mike - nice one, class!
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domster

8,431 posts

269 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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Yeah, I was always a Caterham man myself, but that's because of the quality of the Caterham kit over the westie one - I'm not a 'knee-jerk' brand snob.

As for this Westie, I'm very interested, as I did want an Ultima but concluded it would be a 40k exercise. However, the version in the pics can't possibly be road legal - those lights look very low.

Show me a finished car westfield, and I'll show you the money!

Domster

Edited by domster on Tuesday 18th December 15:20

gee_fin

119 posts

282 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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I think there's a legal requirement to the height of lights. The indications were that you would have to run some type of lightpod on the car for the road-legal ones.

It would be sheer class to run one of those on the road though. Absolutely outrageous. You would have to constantly make sure everything was in order as the police would be stopping you every five yards

dp5

1 posts

267 months

Thursday 20th December 2001
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damn - and i'm not even done building the megabusa yet (getting there though). probably just as well that there'll be a waiting period, especially to get it on these shores. plus i have to finish the garage addition first...

definitely a must-have though. i like the body shape much better than SR3, too... would look great in westfield dark green.

Westfield

1 posts

267 months

Friday 21st December 2001
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There is 2 nose variants to the XTR2 1 for motorsport/trackday car and one for road with the lights fitted to the correct height. The car does look awesome.

adrianr

822 posts

283 months

Thursday 10th January 2002
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Could/would you make a similar body to fit on an existing SE type chassis & running gear, sort of a mini Panoz?

AdrianR

gee_fin

119 posts

282 months

Thursday 10th January 2002
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That was my initial wonder. However, the chassis they're using in the XTR2 has realistically no relation to any existing Westfield chassis. It's completely new so I think you're limited to the existing bodywork add-ons for an SE (ie. the snow plough nose, side-pods and rear wing).

Graeme.

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