Question on the K1 attack Kit car
Discussion
Hi guys thank you very much for the replies. I actually am well aware of Emma and her kit. I actually contacted her once, got one reply but none further. I remember when she waited for her kit also.
I guess most of you are right that K1 is all for looks and not much else and I would agree hence the reason Im really tempted to go for the Murtaya. Another reason would be that since I have owned two Stis and a P1 it would be slightly easier for me to work with
on top of which I would know a thing or two more about it.
I think the K1 as Ive seen is a very unreliable choice especially due to communication issues with the company. I did however contact them around about the same time as Emma got her kit but never heard from them in reply. Sort of give me an idea of what the company is like really.
The only slight thing holding me back from the Murtaya is that im not too keen on the front end. Love the rest of the car but I think the interior and front end could do with a little change, but thats just my personal experience.
Btw I know this is a step too soon and maybe one that sounds silly but how possible is it for a car enthusiast to make his own kit i.e. his own styled kit?
Cheers
I guess most of you are right that K1 is all for looks and not much else and I would agree hence the reason Im really tempted to go for the Murtaya. Another reason would be that since I have owned two Stis and a P1 it would be slightly easier for me to work with
on top of which I would know a thing or two more about it.I think the K1 as Ive seen is a very unreliable choice especially due to communication issues with the company. I did however contact them around about the same time as Emma got her kit but never heard from them in reply. Sort of give me an idea of what the company is like really.
The only slight thing holding me back from the Murtaya is that im not too keen on the front end. Love the rest of the car but I think the interior and front end could do with a little change, but thats just my personal experience.
Btw I know this is a step too soon and maybe one that sounds silly but how possible is it for a car enthusiast to make his own kit i.e. his own styled kit?
Cheers
kilo_4que said:
The only slight thing holding me back from the Murtaya is that im not too keen on the front end. Love the rest of the car but I think the interior and front end could do with a little change, but thats just my personal experience.
Could you not fit/"blend" the Attack bodywork onto a Murtaya chassis? Works with the Ferrari replicas!!Only thought of that cos i'm attempting to convert my Stratos into a Gallardo (well, it works in Photoshop
)Razman on here would be a good one to comment on that. He did not like the front end of the Aeon but loved the rest of the car. He made his own and now the factory offer it as an option.
You could of course commission the factory to do a one off for you!!
As a point of general interest what do you not like/would you like to see different? As a manufacturer we are always very interested in receiving constructive feedback on any aspect of the car.
Neil.
You could of course commission the factory to do a one off for you!!
As a point of general interest what do you not like/would you like to see different? As a manufacturer we are always very interested in receiving constructive feedback on any aspect of the car.
Neil.
vojx said:
Could you not fit/"blend" the Attack bodywork onto a Murtaya chassis? Works with the Ferrari replicas!!
Only thought of that cos i'm attempting to convert my Stratos into a Gallardo (well, it works in Photoshop)
The engine is in the wrong end.Only thought of that cos i'm attempting to convert my Stratos into a Gallardo (well, it works in Photoshop
)kilo_4que said:
. . . . but I think the interior and front end could do with a little change, but thats just my personal experience.
There ain't much wrong with the interior. I've seem much worse quality on many a production car. It has a quality feel, it's roomy and comfortable.The front end grows on you (sorry Neil), but there is some compromise between style & necessity here.
kilo_4que said:
Btw I know this is a step too soon and maybe one that sounds silly but how possible is it for a car enthusiast to make his own kit i.e. his own styled kit?
Cheers
you'd be mad (nuts even) to even think of doing this....... it would take between 5-10,000 man hrs and require huge amounts research.Cheers
Of cause thats not stopped me.
andygtt said:
kilo_4que said:
Btw I know this is a step too soon and maybe one that sounds silly but how possible is it for a car enthusiast to make his own kit i.e. his own styled kit?
Cheers
you'd be mad (nuts even) to even think of doing this....... it would take between 5-10,000 man hrs and require huge amounts research.Cheers
Of cause thats not stopped me.
That is the biggest problem Dave. I prefer something more sleak like the K1 or even the Murtaya bar the front end. But its all about how a non car designer gets a design in his mind on paper. And from that big step building a shell.
Right regarding the Murtaya front end. I dont know how to put it but its just that it doesnt seem to suit the rear of the car. However when looking at the morette type lights on the blue Murtaya, it doesnt look bad at all
Right regarding the Murtaya front end. I dont know how to put it but its just that it doesnt seem to suit the rear of the car. However when looking at the morette type lights on the blue Murtaya, it doesnt look bad at all
Many people seem to think that the Murt is a car that the colour makes a huge difference to. The front end on the blue car is identical to the silver one (lights included) but the darker shade alters the line quite a bit.
As Black5 states there are packaging reasons behind some of the front end styling.
We offer design services and have helped several individuals realise their own design ideas and can help with even the first steps like getting the ideas down into 2d designs with a sketch programme. I am sure we could do the same for you!
Kind regards,
Neil.
As Black5 states there are packaging reasons behind some of the front end styling.
We offer design services and have helped several individuals realise their own design ideas and can help with even the first steps like getting the ideas down into 2d designs with a sketch programme. I am sure we could do the same for you!
Kind regards,
Neil.
Kilo I think i know what you mean about the front end. Although I personally like the car itself Just been to find a picture of it Found the blue one on the start line for the 0-60 challenge.
Looking at it with a critical eye and trying to see it for the first time ( again) first gut feeling is the front grill is too deep or the nose doesnt come low enough. I like you cant put the thoughts into words
Neil met you at donington had a great chat and given the money and the right situation ( ie not needing 4 seats loved the boot rack idea tho) i would have a murtaya in a blink.
Looking at it with a critical eye and trying to see it for the first time ( again) first gut feeling is the front grill is too deep or the nose doesnt come low enough. I like you cant put the thoughts into words
Neil met you at donington had a great chat and given the money and the right situation ( ie not needing 4 seats loved the boot rack idea tho) i would have a murtaya in a blink.
Vindi_andy said:
Looking at it with a critical eye and trying to see it for the first time ( again) first gut feeling is the front grill is too deep or the nose doesnt come low enough. I like you cant put the thoughts into words
It's the bonnet line for me - as you say the nose doesn't come quite low enough, though I would imagine that is partly packaging related. If it could be dropped 4 inches or so, or even taper the bonnet faster than the "wing" area, it would help immensely.Still like it as is though
I am still wondering what colour the Vindi is going to be Andy, very curious due to your high secrecy policy!
Thank you for the comments guys, the feedback is much appreciated.
The bonnet is that height in the front due to the packaging requirements for the radiator. In theory you could recline the radiator (push the bottom forwards) to create more vertical space but the gain would not be huge as the engine packaging begins pretty close to there anyway. A couple of inches is probably achievable but then you loose the opportunity to go front mounted intercooler which ultimately limits the performance potential.
One thing that we have looked at is another front clamshell for front mounted intercooler packages which would see the top scoop deleted. We have not done anything about making one, just toying with the idea for the future.
As a serious point on the styling front there are many ways to get your ideas translated from thought to 2D if you do not have the drawing skills yourself. There is the professional route where you employ the services of a company to do it for you, or there is the minimal fee/free route.
I am sure if you approached any of the big automotive universities they would have students that would be happy to do some initial development sketches as it would broaden their skills to do a 'commercially led' project which could later be used in their portfolio.
I know there are some talented designers who frequent pistonheads who may be happy to help (you could run a thread on the redesign) or like AndyGTT you could be brave and just go for it in the flesh.
Kind regards,
Neil.
Thank you for the comments guys, the feedback is much appreciated.
The bonnet is that height in the front due to the packaging requirements for the radiator. In theory you could recline the radiator (push the bottom forwards) to create more vertical space but the gain would not be huge as the engine packaging begins pretty close to there anyway. A couple of inches is probably achievable but then you loose the opportunity to go front mounted intercooler which ultimately limits the performance potential.
One thing that we have looked at is another front clamshell for front mounted intercooler packages which would see the top scoop deleted. We have not done anything about making one, just toying with the idea for the future.
As a serious point on the styling front there are many ways to get your ideas translated from thought to 2D if you do not have the drawing skills yourself. There is the professional route where you employ the services of a company to do it for you, or there is the minimal fee/free route.
I am sure if you approached any of the big automotive universities they would have students that would be happy to do some initial development sketches as it would broaden their skills to do a 'commercially led' project which could later be used in their portfolio.
I know there are some talented designers who frequent pistonheads who may be happy to help (you could run a thread on the redesign) or like AndyGTT you could be brave and just go for it in the flesh.
Kind regards,
Neil.
Hi Neil, after looking at the Murtaya a little closely based on pics and specs I guess the front end is bubbly as it is for a reason. Even with the Top mount intercooler the font end would have to sit higher as there is an addition on top of the engine bay likewise I guess you cant do much.
Regarding a car from sketch. I know this much that I can get some form of designs together by myself but have always wondered how you guys build shells according to a design on paper.
Regarding a car from sketch. I know this much that I can get some form of designs together by myself but have always wondered how you guys build shells according to a design on paper.
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