So who buys Vixens? & What do they want?
Discussion
nwarner said:
I always thought that there was a lot more to do than just bolting on the wheels but of course I could be wrong.
I've tried finding a picture that was on here a while back, but can't of a Vixen/Tuscan being delivered in 'kit form' by the factory Land Rover. Virtually a complete car apart from the front wheels being missing. Although I'd imagine there would have been other smaller items to do too.
Try this....or ask...moluag/Mike Carmichael....the picture from somewhere in TVR world thanks here to Vixen/Eric Adrian@
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RetroWheels said:
vixen said:
A "TVR kit" was actually a fully built car!
The only thing you needed to do was to place the front suspension
and some small stuff. Everything else like engine,interior,windows etc.
was already finished.
On the picture you can see how the "kit" was delivered to the TVR dealership.
That's a really evocative photo ,very pleasant The only thing you needed to do was to place the front suspension
and some small stuff. Everything else like engine,interior,windows etc.
was already finished.
On the picture you can see how the "kit" was delivered to the TVR dealership.
..Edited by Adrian@ on Friday 9th December 19:33
I was looking overhere also at wheelbase from TVR's
http://carbaze.com/#1?year-from=&year-to=&...
abd saw that on that list say the Vixen S2 and S3 and say 2500M and 3000M and V8S all have the same wheelbase? is that correct? they all have 2286mm
how many TVR types have the same wheelbase.
http://carbaze.com/#1?year-from=&year-to=&...
abd saw that on that list say the Vixen S2 and S3 and say 2500M and 3000M and V8S all have the same wheelbase? is that correct? they all have 2286mm
how many TVR types have the same wheelbase.
vixen1700 said:
"This car has been used to follow the mille miglia in 2011 and has done the whole trip of 1000 miles...."is that really remarkable for a classic TVR? Did the same with my ´68 Alfa, plus a trip from cologne to Gibraltar and back a few months earlier.
Every car should be able to do a 1000mls tip without major problems, particularly if it is completely restored!
looks great though, and if done really good the price might be ok!
Edited by alfa-chris on Sunday 11th December 13:02
came acros this Vixen register list with members and pictures etc, sofar 178 in the registery.
http://tvr.at/register2.html
http://tvr.at/register2.html
At 6’ 2 couldn’t fit into an Elan.
Guess shoulda tried a +2.
Surprisingly the Europa was a nice fit although quite claustrophobic.
But the footwell took only one shoe.
Well …. 2 with ballet slippers.
How tall was Colin anyway?
Also – the Lotus Elan origami chassis needs to be gusseted in a very technically precise way.
Provided you have a solid one to start with.
Interestingly enough the most common conversion is the Spyder Spaceframe which, interestingly again, incorporates tubular steel sections.
Sound familiar?
Never seen a Vixen anywhere here on the west coast USA.
Except once.
Up a few miles north of SF at Sears Point.
Working as a turn marshal.
Blue flag, yellow flag … that sort of thing.
Occasional use of fire extinguisher.
Always drove the Vixen to the races.
One Sunday there was a 1600 class race.
The usual suspects.
+ a TVR LWB Vixen looking outwardly – just like mine!
Hurrah!
Expectations tempered however – you know.
But this wasn’t a race.
More of an exhibition.
On the first lap - by the time the race got around to my corner it was just the TVR – solo.
With the rest far behind.
The Vixen was going around the track looking like D production class.
Might have even kept up with Formula 911.
Always bothered me how they went around tight corners on three wheels.
Anyway – my car literally ate the field.
Chewed it up into small pieces.
Lapped it more than once.
And won the race like nobody’s business.
Having to stay at my position for the remainder of the day, the Vixen was gone by the end of the races.
How it got around the track so quickly remains a mystery.
Suppose the moral of the story may be for all hankerin’ for a big lump of a V8 in a car designed to be light and quick – think again.
Also - that old Cortina block gave birth to the fame and success of a couple of fellows named Cos and Worth.
Also - 50+ years later - the block is still being manufactured - Ford part number M-6010-16K.
95 lbs. - $1,475.00 USD.
Cheers.
Guess shoulda tried a +2.
Surprisingly the Europa was a nice fit although quite claustrophobic.
But the footwell took only one shoe.
Well …. 2 with ballet slippers.
How tall was Colin anyway?
Also – the Lotus Elan origami chassis needs to be gusseted in a very technically precise way.
Provided you have a solid one to start with.
Interestingly enough the most common conversion is the Spyder Spaceframe which, interestingly again, incorporates tubular steel sections.
Sound familiar?
Never seen a Vixen anywhere here on the west coast USA.
Except once.
Up a few miles north of SF at Sears Point.
Working as a turn marshal.
Blue flag, yellow flag … that sort of thing.
Occasional use of fire extinguisher.
Always drove the Vixen to the races.
One Sunday there was a 1600 class race.
The usual suspects.
+ a TVR LWB Vixen looking outwardly – just like mine!
Hurrah!
Expectations tempered however – you know.
But this wasn’t a race.
More of an exhibition.
On the first lap - by the time the race got around to my corner it was just the TVR – solo.
With the rest far behind.
The Vixen was going around the track looking like D production class.
Might have even kept up with Formula 911.
Always bothered me how they went around tight corners on three wheels.
Anyway – my car literally ate the field.
Chewed it up into small pieces.
Lapped it more than once.
And won the race like nobody’s business.
Having to stay at my position for the remainder of the day, the Vixen was gone by the end of the races.
How it got around the track so quickly remains a mystery.
Suppose the moral of the story may be for all hankerin’ for a big lump of a V8 in a car designed to be light and quick – think again.
Also - that old Cortina block gave birth to the fame and success of a couple of fellows named Cos and Worth.
Also - 50+ years later - the block is still being manufactured - Ford part number M-6010-16K.
95 lbs. - $1,475.00 USD.
Cheers.
Great story..... long time coming though !
A chap in my championship competes in both a S2 Vixen and an Elan. He's often told me the Vixen is the quicker car, which goes against most common thinking.
Going back to the OP, I'd love to build a Vixen with a BDA engine
. It would tick all my boxes - apart from the cost of doing it and possibly the ongoing maintenance.
Moto
A chap in my championship competes in both a S2 Vixen and an Elan. He's often told me the Vixen is the quicker car, which goes against most common thinking.
Going back to the OP, I'd love to build a Vixen with a BDA engine
. It would tick all my boxes - apart from the cost of doing it and possibly the ongoing maintenance. Moto
Moto said:
Great story..... long time coming though !
A chap in my championship competes in both a S2 Vixen and an Elan. He's often told me the Vixen is the quicker car, which goes against most common thinking.
Going back to the OP, I'd love to build a Vixen with a BDA engine. It would tick all my boxes - apart from the cost of doing it and possibly the ongoing maintenance.
Moto
A Zetec is just a modern BDA.. You can even stick a replica BDA cover on it A chap in my championship competes in both a S2 Vixen and an Elan. He's often told me the Vixen is the quicker car, which goes against most common thinking.
Going back to the OP, I'd love to build a Vixen with a BDA engine
. It would tick all my boxes - apart from the cost of doing it and possibly the ongoing maintenance. Moto
N.
Dollyman1850 said:
A Zetec is just a modern BDA.. You can even stick a replica BDA cover on it
N.
I know but it's a nostalgia thing. It's what I've dreamt of ever since following the RAC Lombard rally as a teenager and hearing those BDA screaming Escorts through Kielder Forest. And then much later reading an article where Martin Lilley planned to develop a Vixen S with the BDA engine as a standard production car. A great shame it never came to fruition.N.
Moto
BDA 1600cc 120bhp std engine for Escort 1969
BDB 1700cc 200bhp rally engine sold as a kit 1970
BDC 1700cc 230bhp Gp 2 escort fuel injected 1970
BDD 1600cc 200bhp Formula Atlantic motor 1971
BDF 1927cc 270bhp Formula 2 engine, liners brazed in cast block 1972
BDG 1975cc 275bhp formula 2 and rally later with alloy block 1973
BDH 1300cc 190bhp GP2 1973
BDJ 1098cc 150bhp Formula C for SCCA 1974
BDK reseved for forgotten project
BDL experimental turbo
BDM 1599cc 225bhp Formula Atlantic, big valve injected BDD 1975
BDN 1600cc Canadian Atlantic
BDO not allocated
BDP 1975cc 245bhp Sprint car fuel injected methanol 1984
BDQ not allocated
BDR 1601/1700 cc Caterham Seven Road Kit 1983?
Around 350 1700cc kits and 50 1601 kits supplied
BDT 1778cc 200bhp RS1700T turbo 1981
BDT 1803cc 250bhp RS200
BDT-E 2137cc 500bhp evolution BDT by Brian Hart
BDX basicly BDG spec with larger valves and 10mm spark plugs
And then there are the Zakspeed engine versions, with and without Turbo
Courtesy of the Cosworth BDA Engines Edition Spelberg Lotus Book
Considering it's reasonable to construct a 110 HP standard crossflow running on 92 octane corn liquor ...
It's a lot of money for the panache of a Cosworth scream.
+ you'll have to become an expert on the care and feeding of the above. Mind the belts.
The Kent will make a nice noisy growl with an appropriate straight thru glasspack muffler.
However - a Vixen S would be the bomb.
And yeah - I'd stick an "S" badge on it.
BDB 1700cc 200bhp rally engine sold as a kit 1970
BDC 1700cc 230bhp Gp 2 escort fuel injected 1970
BDD 1600cc 200bhp Formula Atlantic motor 1971
BDF 1927cc 270bhp Formula 2 engine, liners brazed in cast block 1972
BDG 1975cc 275bhp formula 2 and rally later with alloy block 1973
BDH 1300cc 190bhp GP2 1973
BDJ 1098cc 150bhp Formula C for SCCA 1974
BDK reseved for forgotten project
BDL experimental turbo
BDM 1599cc 225bhp Formula Atlantic, big valve injected BDD 1975
BDN 1600cc Canadian Atlantic
BDO not allocated
BDP 1975cc 245bhp Sprint car fuel injected methanol 1984
BDQ not allocated
BDR 1601/1700 cc Caterham Seven Road Kit 1983?
Around 350 1700cc kits and 50 1601 kits supplied
BDT 1778cc 200bhp RS1700T turbo 1981
BDT 1803cc 250bhp RS200
BDT-E 2137cc 500bhp evolution BDT by Brian Hart
BDX basicly BDG spec with larger valves and 10mm spark plugs
And then there are the Zakspeed engine versions, with and without Turbo
Courtesy of the Cosworth BDA Engines Edition Spelberg Lotus Book
Considering it's reasonable to construct a 110 HP standard crossflow running on 92 octane corn liquor ...
It's a lot of money for the panache of a Cosworth scream.
+ you'll have to become an expert on the care and feeding of the above. Mind the belts.
The Kent will make a nice noisy growl with an appropriate straight thru glasspack muffler.
However - a Vixen S would be the bomb.
And yeah - I'd stick an "S" badge on it.
Edited by tyracious on Monday 29th June 19:33
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