2013 the price guide
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That looks like the format of Practical Classics. They don't put one in the magazine any more (I think) but release one online regularly. This one below is from August 2018. Tuscan V6 has doubled for a concourse one, whilst the Chimaera and Griffs have barely moved. Interesting that the Cerbera 4.5 isn't mentioned in your 2013 one, and of course the T350 has appeared, but no Tamora...….
There is a slight gap between Vixen and Tuscan V6 because they were on separate pages of the pdf download so I cut and paste onto 1 jpeg:
There is a slight gap between Vixen and Tuscan V6 because they were on separate pages of the pdf download so I cut and paste onto 1 jpeg:
TVRMs said:
Don’t think 30k would buy a concours vixen or a Tuscan. The market hasn’t seen a truly concours car for years so difficult to gauge. No doubting £30 k will buy a nicely rebuilt car,but that’s not the same thing.
I suspect like is often the case many use the concourse word out of context John when referring to a car that is of show quality and like new such as your beautiful 5000M.Edited by TVRMs on Monday 5th November 09:58
All my cars are far from concours and they will remain that way as they drive better that way or at least the way i want them to.
Your so right there are so few original cars that are on the road restored as concours with many suppliers over the years supplying there modified versions of the original parts that its impossible to achieve.
But in many ways does it really matter seeing them used and enjoyed is far more important.
And apart from the fact that higher values allows owners to justify the cost of doing things to a higher standard,It also creates instances where some see the opportunity to buy a car to flip that really should have a full restoration but do a cosmetic one on a budget to try and make a return.
Buyers guides are just that guides and sometimes they get it close and other times way out.
Andrew
Edited by Andrew Gray on Monday 5th November 14:53
Andrew Gray said:
TVRMs said:
Don’t think 30k would buy a concours vixen or a Tuscan. The market hasn’t seen a truly concours car for years so difficult to gauge. No doubting £30 k will buy a nicely rebuilt car,but that’s not the same thing.
I suspect like is often the case many use the concourse word out of context John when referring to a car that is of show quality and like new such as your beautiful 5000M.Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 5th November 09:58
All my cars are far from concours and they will remain that way as they drive better that way or at least the way i want them to.
Your so right there are so few original cars that are on the road restored as concours with many suppliers over the years supplying there modified versions of the original parts that its impossible to achieve.
But in many ways does it really matter seeing them used and enjoyed is far more important.
And apart from the fact that higher values allows owners to justify the cost of doing things to a higher standard,It also creates instances where some see the opportunity to buy a car to flip that really should have a full restoration but do a cosmetic one on a budget to try and make a return.
Buyers guides are just that guides and sometimes they get it close and other times way out.
Andrew
Edited by Andrew Gray on Monday 5th November 14:53
1969tuscan said:
Just found a 2013 car mag with Byers guide.couldnt believe how small a different between the vixen and the Tuscan in price , to what they are now
Going back to the OP's original point, it seems the 2018 guide doesn't show much of a difference between a similar condition Tuscan & Vixen either. Which seems right to me and in-line with other models pricing such as a 1600M compared to a 3000M, or a Griffith 400 compared to a Griffith 430 etc etcMoto
TVRMs said:
glow worm said:
The value of any car is what someone is willing to pay and what the seller will accept 
The value of anything on the day is exactly that. Guides for worth are based on what prices have achieved over a period, that tend to smooth out market irregularities.
Hi all , I started this thread because I genuinely though early Tuscans were bringing much higher prices than vixens , seemingly the little vixen is holding its own, to me concourse cars if there is any out there don't come into the equation , I made that mistake years ago , I have classic motor cycles and had a 1959 rudge special a what they call original oily rag bike I used it regularly, then I started renovation to concourse in the end the bike stayed in the garage to prestean to use in our climate , I swore I would never do that again , so now I'm doing the Vixen up but all I want is a tidy usable car and thats not coming cheap ,at the end of the day that's what they were built for to use , and I doulbt that many concourse cars rolled out of the the factory , I've Seen to much concourse machinery trailered to shows over the years , anyone with money can have a concourse car even if your not capable of doing it yourself there's plenty of restoration firms to take your money, just so you can keep it in a garage and look at it now and then , because as soon as you start to use it in our climate and on our roads , won't be concourse for long,
plasticpig72 said:
For me we are talking about "Blackpool Rockets" made to drive and make lots of noise.
Not Beauty Queens all tarted up to be taken from one Concours Show to the next on a Trailer and be polished with Feather Dusters.
Alan
You can still drive them hard and keep them pristine, just takes a bit of effort. Biggest excuse for having a rough car is I use it...Not Beauty Queens all tarted up to be taken from one Concours Show to the next on a Trailer and be polished with Feather Dusters.
Alan
All interesting replies, but getting back to vixen / Tuscan prices how would you experts out there value my 1969 S2 vixen with a 2.8 carb V6 ford colone engine and five speed series 9 gearbox and limited slip differential fitted , plus a 3 year chassis up restoration , i hasten to add not concourse , would it come under vixen or Tuscan prices ,having the same body as a Tuscan anyway ?
1969tuscan said:
All interesting replies, but getting back to vixen / Tuscan prices how would you experts out there value my 1969 S2 vixen with a 2.8 carb V6 ford colone engine and five speed series 9 gearbox and limited slip differential fitted , plus a 3 year chassis up restoration , i hasten to add not concourse , would it come under vixen or Tuscan prices ,having the same body as a Tuscan anyway ?
The only way of valuing it is by inviting offers! TVRMs said:
A few Tuscans have sold in the last 12 months for very strong money. Vixens are behind, not sure how much.
Find the idea that very few cars came out of the factory in concours condition quite amusing, that’s most people’s definition of concours...
Yes of the three V6 Tuscans sold this year i am aware of two fresh very nice show quality cars sold at 40500 and 44000 then another that was snapped up within 24 hours at 25000 by a very lucky new owner so very much a bargain by no means a fresh restoration but at 25k was certainly under the market price Find the idea that very few cars came out of the factory in concours condition quite amusing, that’s most people’s definition of concours...
Andrew
Edited by Andrew Gray on Tuesday 6th November 22:37
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