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LLantrisant said:
a really nice car.....and the 5-speed conversion also makes sense....especially for driving longer distances.
what looks strange is the crankcase ventilation of this engine in combination with the hermetically sealed alloy rocker-cover.
"car was built with competition in mind"....thats a laugh: 1 lap on the track with constant high revs and the engine would spit-ou all its oil through the block-breather, due to lack of breathing through the rocker-cover.
nothing which cannot be fixed (just put the standard rocker cover back or drill a hole for an additonal breather in the allyo one)...but here you can see that this car was never really used and still some "engineering" necessary.
at the end of the day its just a bog-standard 1600cc escort engine where some twin 40ies have been fitted.
There isn’t enough ventilation that’s for sure. But if the engine is to the same standard as the rest it’s probably a good spec but not mentioned in the ad along with the roll cage and 5 speed either. A bit strange really as they’re good selling points.what looks strange is the crankcase ventilation of this engine in combination with the hermetically sealed alloy rocker-cover.
"car was built with competition in mind"....thats a laugh: 1 lap on the track with constant high revs and the engine would spit-ou all its oil through the block-breather, due to lack of breathing through the rocker-cover.
nothing which cannot be fixed (just put the standard rocker cover back or drill a hole for an additonal breather in the allyo one)...but here you can see that this car was never really used and still some "engineering" necessary.
at the end of the day its just a bog-standard 1600cc escort engine where some twin 40ies have been fitted.
LLantrisant said:
a really nice car.....and the 5-speed conversion also makes sense....especially for driving longer distances.
what looks strange is the crankcase ventilation of this engine in combination with the hermetically sealed alloy rocker-cover.
"car was built with competition in mind"....thats a laugh: 1 lap on the track with constant high revs and the engine would spit-ou all its oil through the block-breather, due to lack of breathing through the rocker-cover.
nothing which cannot be fixed (just put the standard rocker cover back or drill a hole for an additonal breather in the allyo one)...but here you can see that this car was never really used and still some "engineering" necessary.
at the end of the day its just a bog-standard 1600cc escort engine where some twin 40ies have been fitted.
Tell me more. what looks strange is the crankcase ventilation of this engine in combination with the hermetically sealed alloy rocker-cover.
"car was built with competition in mind"....thats a laugh: 1 lap on the track with constant high revs and the engine would spit-ou all its oil through the block-breather, due to lack of breathing through the rocker-cover.
nothing which cannot be fixed (just put the standard rocker cover back or drill a hole for an additonal breather in the allyo one)...but here you can see that this car was never really used and still some "engineering" necessary.
at the end of the day its just a bog-standard 1600cc escort engine where some twin 40ies have been fitted.
I'm running a crossflow with the same alloy rocker cover (no breather) and have a breather catch tank - same setup as this car. Exactly as you say, I do manage to half fill the 1litre tank with oil throughout the season ( approx 8 x hillclimb/sprint events with 4 runs per event plus 2-3k road miles). So probably not quite as bad as you say but still raises the question of whether my setup suffers inadequate breathing. If so are there other consequences apart from the oil in the catch tank?
Moto
Moto said:
Tell me more.
I'm running a crossflow with the same alloy rocker cover (no breather) and have a breather catch tank - same setup as this car. Exactly as you say, I do manage to half fill the 1litre tank with oil throughout the season ( approx 8 x hillclimb/sprint events with 4 runs per event plus 2-3k road miles). So probably not quite as bad as you say but still raises the question of whether my setup suffers inadequate breathing. If so are there other consequences apart from the oil in the catch tank?
Moto
Burton sell a oil filler cap with a vent outlet you can run via a pipe to the tank, which is handy if you have the oil filler at the rear end of the cover - or alternatively as has been said you can put a hole in the rocker cover and pipe it.I'm running a crossflow with the same alloy rocker cover (no breather) and have a breather catch tank - same setup as this car. Exactly as you say, I do manage to half fill the 1litre tank with oil throughout the season ( approx 8 x hillclimb/sprint events with 4 runs per event plus 2-3k road miles). So probably not quite as bad as you say but still raises the question of whether my setup suffers inadequate breathing. If so are there other consequences apart from the oil in the catch tank?
Moto
It helps to reduce top end pressure, which in your case will reduce the amount of bottom end oil ending up in the catch tank.
Moto said:
Tell me more.
I'm running a crossflow with the same alloy rocker cover (no breather) and have a breather catch tank - same setup as this car. Exactly as you say, I do manage to half fill the 1litre tank with oil throughout the season ( approx 8 x hillclimb/sprint events with 4 runs per event plus 2-3k road miles). So probably not quite as bad as you say but still raises the question of whether my setup suffers inadequate breathing. If so are there other consequences apart from the oil in the catch tank?
Moto
crossflows need to breath!!I'm running a crossflow with the same alloy rocker cover (no breather) and have a breather catch tank - same setup as this car. Exactly as you say, I do manage to half fill the 1litre tank with oil throughout the season ( approx 8 x hillclimb/sprint events with 4 runs per event plus 2-3k road miles). So probably not quite as bad as you say but still raises the question of whether my setup suffers inadequate breathing. If so are there other consequences apart from the oil in the catch tank?
Moto
the original config was:
downdraught carb, block breather connected to manifold vacuum. rocker-cover with mushroom filler cap to allow the engine to suck air. so there was a constant exchange from fesh-air and vacuum. this system worked perfect, even with a worn engine.
now the engine get twin-sidedraught carbs....as a consequence the vacuum suction towards the block gets lost. if you now also use a sealed rocker-cover the desaster is programmed.
what to do:
1. use the angled tin-can on the block, but remove the small valve on the outlet.(pcv-valve)
2. conect the largest hose which you can fit into the outlet of above, to a big catch-tank (2Liter)--> try to connect it to the bottom of the catch tank and try to get the level of the tank as high as possible...so you may also have the chance that any oil ending in the tank can flow back to the engine
3. use a rocker-cover with a hose connection (the bigger the better) and route this also into the catchtank
4. the athmosphere vent on the catchtank must be big...as big as possible...most standard catch tanks habe far too small outlets
4. if you are running an electric fuel pump you MUST use the blanking-plate with the deflector:
5. keep the oil-level just half full.
Edited by LLantrisant on Wednesday 24th February 10:32
plasticpig1972 said:
Dollyman, Don't guess mate. you either know or you don't 
Sorry but i couldn't resist that
Alan
Been there. Both having done the 5 speed conversion and having guessed at stuff so fair play to everyone.Sorry but i couldn't resist that
Alan
It’s the same conversion on the V6 Essex next, which has very similar bellhousing/clutch conundrums.
Contrary to folklore none of them are plain sailing.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 24th February 21:31
here another version about solving the breathing issue:
using an oilfiller cap from a later pinto engnine which already comes with a hose-connection to route a hose inside a catchtank.
pic´s origin is from this advert:
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/9868569
using an oilfiller cap from a later pinto engnine which already comes with a hose-connection to route a hose inside a catchtank.
pic´s origin is from this advert:
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/9868569
LLantrisant said:
here another version about solving the breathing issue:
using an oilfiller cap from a later pinto engnine which already comes with a hose-connection to route a hose inside a catchtank.
pic´s origin is from this advert:
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/9868569
That’s the Burton filler cap I referred to - apparently it’s a Metro one (?)using an oilfiller cap from a later pinto engnine which already comes with a hose-connection to route a hose inside a catchtank.
pic´s origin is from this advert:
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/9868569
1969tuscan said:
Been interested to read about the cable clutch conversion I have a S2 vixen with a v6 ford colone engine with type 9 five speed box and Sierra limited slip diff, it’s the pedal box part that’s the worst problem,hears a photo of mine 
Here’s what you needed - with the reverse operating slave bracket https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TYPE-9-BELLHOUSING-/224...
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 5th March 21:30
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