280i PAS pipe sourcing (or alternatives)

280i PAS pipe sourcing (or alternatives)

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IamWedgend

Original Poster:

159 posts

38 months

Thursday 15th September
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Hello all

The metal PAS pipe on my 1983 280i is corroded beyond repair. Sad.

From what I understand, the rack is from a cortina Mk 4/5 - but i'm having two issues:
- I'm not sure if there was any custom work done on the rack
- I'm struggling to find a place that has even any stock parts for this rack.

Anyone have any idea where I could source them/any spare bits lying around?

IF I can't sort this out - what are the best alternatives that I can swap to relatively cost effectively?

Pictures available on demand.

Best,
J

BlueWedgy

289 posts

84 months

Thursday 15th September
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Not sure where you are based I have a local company called PIRTEK, that will make any hose pipe to your pattern. They are all over the place.

https://www.pirtek.co.uk/find-service-centre/

IamWedgend

Original Poster:

159 posts

38 months

Thursday 15th September
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Ah I should specify that it's the metal pipe, not the hose. Thanks though!

BlueWedgy

289 posts

84 months

Thursday 15th September
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I think you did, I am sure they do hard lines as well.

IamWedgend

Original Poster:

159 posts

38 months

Thursday 15th September
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Interesting - I'll get in touch, thanks for the suggestion!

BlueWedgy

289 posts

84 months

Thursday 15th September
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Steve_D

13,655 posts

240 months

Monday 19th September
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If function is all you require a flex hose will do the job.
A steel pipe is cheaper on a production line but not as a custom make.

Steve

105.4

2,437 posts

53 months

Monday 19th September
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Steve_D said:
If function is all you require a flex hose will do the job.
A steel pipe is cheaper on a production line but not as a custom make.

Steve
I’m glad you’ve said that, as I’m having the same issue, abelt on a Citroen. I was wondering if a silicone hose would do considering the pressure through it should be quite low?

What sort of pressure does a PAS system run at?


Edited by 105.4 on Monday 19th September 16:49

BlueWedgy

289 posts

84 months

Monday 19th September
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PAS flexi hose would be reinforced & multi layered, I would have thought that type of hose you mention would not be a good option.
I replaced my belt-driven pump with a Saxo one, using the original hoses. It must be a lot less than the old belt-driven one as the steering has weighted up somewhat.
At the time of my swap, I think that the Saxo pump runs between 80-85 bar, the pump on a C4 goes up to 110 bar?

105.4

2,437 posts

53 months

Monday 19th September
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BlueWedgy said:
PAS flexi hose would be reinforced & multi layered, I would have thought that type of hose you mention would not be a good option.
I replaced my belt-driven pump with a Saxo one, using the original hoses. It must be a lot less than the old belt-driven one as the steering has weighted up somewhat.
At the time of my swap, I think that the Saxo pump runs between 80-85 bar, the pump on a C4 goes up to 110 bar?
Thanks for the info smile

IamWedgend

Original Poster:

159 posts

38 months

Thursday 22nd September
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Hi All,

Thanks for the help so far. I'm specifically looking for this part, rather than the hoses or the piping. (From the green line down) Ring a bell with anyone?


BlueWedgy

289 posts

84 months

Friday 23rd September
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I think your best option is to have it made. As I have found in the past with my previous kit cars bits are scarce now as modern scrap methods, tend to be take the high value easy to sell part, then crush, gone for good.
Did you try the company mentioned?

You could also ring these:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185493671819?hash=item2...

They may have a second user part from an old refurb project? or perhaps make a pattern part for you?

IamWedgend

Original Poster:

159 posts

38 months

Friday 23rd September
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Thanks again!

Got in touch with both but no joy unfortunately.

Might just pull the whole thing out tbh, the pumps been a pain in the ass and i'm really struggling to find the parts.

Any conversion options?

BlueWedgy

289 posts

84 months

Friday 23rd September
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I am not sure if you are just calling them (Pirtek), they will probably just say no sorry because it is not off a machine / Forklift, etc. As soon as you mention TVR PAS, you have lost their attention. I find it better to stand in the shop with the part. Normally there will be a helpful chap/ess who knows their stuff and pull something out of a bottom drawer. My local one did that for a radiator fitting, which was an awkward shape.

The fittings will be standard imperial pipe fittings I suspect the hardline dia will be standard as well.
As mentioned previously, if they are truly unable to make a hardline, they should be able to knock up a Flexi replacement. or identify the thread type for you.

Once you are armed with the thread type, there are sellers on ebay that will make it for you.
For example:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203971260400?hash=item2...

I have read people ripping out and starting again, there are threads on here.

Also have a look here for another supplier if still in business (P57):

https://www.theseacpages.co.uk/media/wedge_epistle...

Corsa electric conversion has also been done and talked about.