Losing interest in f1?
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Not losing interest at all. The BBC highlights are pretty extensive and really don't miss much. It's not that much effort to go 'offline' for a while before watching highlights and the BBC live races are all good stuff again. The racing is really close this year, no Vettel walkover and lots of teams in with a chance.
I no longer feel it's 'must see'....and haven't felt like this for a few years. Too much is about The Show, and entertainment. What's DRS doing in F1? Where is the variety? All 2.4L V8 engines. Thanks, but no thanks.....it hasn't been the Pinnacle of Motorsport for quite a few years.
I'll still keep in touch, but it just doesn't do it for me anymore.
I'll still keep in touch, but it just doesn't do it for me anymore.
Dixie said:
Sky's coverage really is excellent you know!! I understand why people don't want to pay but it doesn't take away the fact the channel is actually very good.
But odd though when you see jake and the others in the back ground. Feel like I'm cheating on them.
The online feed is the sky hd feed with audio.But odd though when you see jake and the others in the back ground. Feel like I'm cheating on them.
Lost soul said:
S10 GTA said:
The move to sky has ruined it for me
On another thread some genius was trying to tell me that Sky would be better than BBC coverage what a dick I simply cannot understand those bhing about Sky. If F1 is a sport that you love and spend enough time to debate/challenge/discuss on PH, then slating Sky for doing a deal with a company desperate to sell their rights for cash to produce more reality tv like "The Voice", who then create F1's own channel to show pretty much 24/7 coverage, also showing GP2 as well as every FP live, legends interviews, historic races, much more in depth technical pieces than the BBC produced, or that you just you don't like one of their presenters (not that Eddie Jordan is loved by all, or Jake being castigated as being a CBBC lightweight when his addition was announced by BBC) then your'e a bit of a hypocrite imo.
I see.
Perhaps seeing the TV rights of a sport you love being sold down the river to an organisation part owned by people you might despise isn't of importance to you but it may be to others.
I may love a sport a great deal but that does not mean that I will sacrifice everything to watch it on TV.
I followed F1 before it was ever on TV on a regular basis and I will continue to follow it even in the current slightly more restricted way it is available in the UK. It doesn't mean I am less of a fan than you are though.
And it doesn't mean I have lost interest - not at all.
Perhaps seeing the TV rights of a sport you love being sold down the river to an organisation part owned by people you might despise isn't of importance to you but it may be to others.
I may love a sport a great deal but that does not mean that I will sacrifice everything to watch it on TV.
I followed F1 before it was ever on TV on a regular basis and I will continue to follow it even in the current slightly more restricted way it is available in the UK. It doesn't mean I am less of a fan than you are though.
And it doesn't mean I have lost interest - not at all.
Eric Mc said:
I see.
Perhaps seeing the TV rights of a sport you love being sold down the river to an organisation part owned by people you might despise isn't of importance to you but it may be to others.
I may love a sport a great deal but that does not mean that I will sacrifice everything to watch it on TV.
I followed F1 before it was ever on TV on a regular basis and I will continue to follow it even in the current slightly more restricted way it is available in the UK. It doesn't mean I am less of a fan than you are though.
And it doesn't mean I have lost interest - not at all.
Then your beef is with BBC not Sky, however everyone slags off Sky because their coverage isnt exactly the same as auntie Beeb's love in, or because they do things a different way. The "SkyPad" is in every major sport coverage they do, Masters golf/football/cricket etc, its quite informative for the minutae of split second differences in driving styles, golf swings or batting techniques but has its limitations. What Im not slating them for is trying to maximize their coverage, showing much much much more F1 than BBC ever did or could.Perhaps seeing the TV rights of a sport you love being sold down the river to an organisation part owned by people you might despise isn't of importance to you but it may be to others.
I may love a sport a great deal but that does not mean that I will sacrifice everything to watch it on TV.
I followed F1 before it was ever on TV on a regular basis and I will continue to follow it even in the current slightly more restricted way it is available in the UK. It doesn't mean I am less of a fan than you are though.
And it doesn't mean I have lost interest - not at all.
My beef against Sky and Murdoch is nothing to do with F1 so the "deal" with the BBC does not feature in my thinking at all.
My beef with YOU is that you seem to think that a "true" F1 fan is one who is willing to pay whatever they must to watch every race live.
Well, in my mind, that is a very narow and rather simplistic definition of how one expresses a love for motor racing.
My beef with YOU is that you seem to think that a "true" F1 fan is one who is willing to pay whatever they must to watch every race live.
Well, in my mind, that is a very narow and rather simplistic definition of how one expresses a love for motor racing.
Eric Mc said:
My beef against Sky and Murdoch is nothing to do with F1 so the "deal" with the BBC does not feature in my thinking at all.
My beef with YOU is that you seem to think that a "true" F1 fan is one who is willing to pay whatever they must to watch every race live.
Well, in my mind, that is a very narow and rather simplistic definition of how one expresses a love for motor racing.
Well I'm happy to express my love for F1 by getting up at "stupid o'clock" to watch the live coverage from Aus on Sky then, if it were BBC I could have got up an hour or so later as they started their pre-race show later.My beef with YOU is that you seem to think that a "true" F1 fan is one who is willing to pay whatever they must to watch every race live.
Well, in my mind, that is a very narow and rather simplistic definition of how one expresses a love for motor racing.
I don't give a flying fk what channel its on, my desire to watch live racing is more important than the stupid BBC v Sky bullshiite I read on here day in day out.
Why is it "bullst"? Because you don't agree with the sentiments?
From what I have seen of what Sky is doing I am NOT impressed. They have more hours of programming of course but as we all know, quantity does not automatically mean quality.
If it was free to air I might forgive them the fact that their product is poorer quality but I am not paying them £270 (what it would have cost me) for the privilege of watching something that to me is amateurish in so many ways.
And the fact that your definition of an F1 fan is someone who is prepared to pay to watch it on TV indicates to me that your understanding of interest and passion for a subject seems to be strangely linked to one's willingness or ability to pay extra for it - no matter what the cost.
From what I have seen of what Sky is doing I am NOT impressed. They have more hours of programming of course but as we all know, quantity does not automatically mean quality.
If it was free to air I might forgive them the fact that their product is poorer quality but I am not paying them £270 (what it would have cost me) for the privilege of watching something that to me is amateurish in so many ways.
And the fact that your definition of an F1 fan is someone who is prepared to pay to watch it on TV indicates to me that your understanding of interest and passion for a subject seems to be strangely linked to one's willingness or ability to pay extra for it - no matter what the cost.
Eric Mc said:
Why is it "bullst"? Because you don't agree with the sentiments?
From what I have seen of what Sky is doing I am NOT impressed. They have more hours of programming of course but as we all know, quantity does not automatically mean quality.
If it was free to air I might forgive them the fact that their product is poorer quality but I am not paying them £270 (what it would have cost me) for the privilege of watching something that to me is amateurish in so many ways.
And the fact that your definition of an F1 fan is someone who is prepared to pay to watch it on TV indicates to me that your understanding of interest and passion for a subject seems to be strangely linked to one's willingness or ability to pay extra for it - no matter what the cost.
My idea of an F1 fan is someone who is prepared to give up something to pursue a sport or passion they enjoy following. I gave up my gym membership to buy a TVR and am in the process of restoring it to showroom condition, so I know about sacrificing certain aspects of my life to fund others.From what I have seen of what Sky is doing I am NOT impressed. They have more hours of programming of course but as we all know, quantity does not automatically mean quality.
If it was free to air I might forgive them the fact that their product is poorer quality but I am not paying them £270 (what it would have cost me) for the privilege of watching something that to me is amateurish in so many ways.
And the fact that your definition of an F1 fan is someone who is prepared to pay to watch it on TV indicates to me that your understanding of interest and passion for a subject seems to be strangely linked to one's willingness or ability to pay extra for it - no matter what the cost.
As the race feed is from Uncle Bernie, the race coverage is no different, but yes I express my love of F1 by paying an extra £10 per month, not £270 p/a to watch live races. So what if I forego a couple of beers in the pub a month to watch live coverage, in addition to HD films, football, golf, cricket etc etc etc. I was watching the onboard camera of Lewis as Nico pushed him onto the dirt and still he overtook, I was out of my chair in excitement. Maybe u might be as excited too on the highlights....but doubt it somehow.
I agree quantity does not mean quality, but I've yet to see a drop in quality over BBC on Sky's F1 channel as the BBC didn't have any of these additional programmes, so you have no comparative basis to say the quality is less. Some of EJ's protestations or running off to grab team principals or staff was quite cringe worthy imo on Beebs forum last year.
Christ no... This season is going to be epic, 4 races in, 4 different winners in 4 different cars and masses of overtaking.
I seriously debated getting Sky or not, but the Sky HD package only costs £23 more per month including unlimited broadband, calls and line rental more than BT. Worth every penny.
I seriously debated getting Sky or not, but the Sky HD package only costs £23 more per month including unlimited broadband, calls and line rental more than BT. Worth every penny.
I watched the Sky feed for the first time today, with the GP2 coverage beforehand.
I much preferred it, didn't find the commentating irritating and didn't have to avoid various news outlets afterwards. I've missed Brundle, a lot!
Not such a fan of the Georgie Thompson touch-TV gimmick bits, but they weren't for long in the scheme of things.
I much preferred it, didn't find the commentating irritating and didn't have to avoid various news outlets afterwards. I've missed Brundle, a lot!
Not such a fan of the Georgie Thompson touch-TV gimmick bits, but they weren't for long in the scheme of things.
Don't really understand why people have it in so badly for Sky. Big deal they're a massive corporation owned by a bellend, so is just about everyone else. If you don't want to pay for Sky then I'm sure with Virgin (mind you, wouldn't touch them with a barge pole) or whatever there are ways of getting Sky's F1 channel cheaper, it's certainly bloody worth it.
0000 said:
Not such a fan of the Georgie Thompson touch-TV gimmick bits, but they weren't for long in the scheme of things.
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