Pastor: not a w**ker says Frank!

Pastor: not a w**ker says Frank!

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supertouring

2,228 posts

232 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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LordGrover said:
he's the next Senna
WTF?

smile

Rollcage

11,327 posts

191 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Johnboy Mac said:
Anyone care to enlighten me on how Williams actually won a GP out of the blue, have they cracked it now and back to their old winning ways?

Edited by Johnboy Mac on Tuesday 15th May 18:25
Sam Michael has left, and gone to Mclaren. Can't you tell?

fatboy69

9,371 posts

186 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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He had a good day, qualified an excellent second which became pole as we know, he drove a good race by letting Fred clear off at the start & he won the race fair & square by holding off Fred, not driving like a like a tt & not binning the car.

At the end of the day he did what the old adage saYS 'to finish first, first you must finish'.

He drove an excellent race, regardless of his antics in the past & if he doesnt won another GP - i do however think that he will win more than one GP - he can hold his head up & say that he won on his merit & not due to others falling off.

As to whether he would have beaten Lewis as well as Fred - we will never know however i reckon he would have given him a good run for his money.

So i think that he deserves a lot of credit for the way he drove on Sunday.

Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

177 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Rollcage said:
Sam Michael has left, and gone to Mclaren. Can't you tell?
laugh


EDLT

15,421 posts

205 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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dom180 said:
EDLT said:
SmoothCriminal said:
fks sake all this wking about Maldonado is making me sick.

He's won ONE race for fks sake and the only reason why he did win is because whether you agree with it or not the FASTEST man on track was put to the back of the grid fks sake get some perspective.
+1,000,000

We got the same rubbish when Rosberg won. There has been plenty of mid-pack drivers that occasionally win a race, Maldonardo (and Rosberg) didn't level up and suddenly become a better driver.
But Rosberg was over 5 times as experienced as Maldonardo was when he won so a faultless performance was to be expected - and some might think he threw away a previous win or two along the way...

People like DC threw away countless wins (1995) before finally nailing their first....

Maldo showed up well against Rubens last year - outqualifying Rubens in Monaco and Silverstone by a fair margin in his first year and with a higher average place overall - something Jenson failed to do in his champioship year alongside Rubens, with 9 seasons under his belt compared to Maldo being in his first season.....)
All that means is Maldonardo spent less time driving around in slow cars.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

254 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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dom180 said:
And demonstrating better qualie pace (on average) against Rubens as a newbie than a more experienced Jenson did....
The same Jenson who beat Hamilton over a season? Single seasons mean nothing. You can cherry pick whatever you want. Jenson also beat Rubens in 2009 when it mattered.

EDLT

15,421 posts

205 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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dom180 said:
And demonstrating better qualie pace (on average) against Rubens as a newbie than a more experienced Jenson did....
A meaningless statistic compared to "Number of championships won"

Stuck In A Lift

2,939 posts

170 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Brilliant, I was just about to start a topic on this. biggrin

Stuck In A Lift

2,939 posts

170 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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EDLT said:
SmoothCriminal said:
fks sake all this wking about Maldonado is making me sick.

He's won ONE race for fks sake and the only reason why he did win is because whether you agree with it or not the FASTEST man on track was put to the back of the grid fks sake get some perspective.
+1,000,000

We got the same rubbish when Rosberg won. There has been plenty of mid-pack drivers that occasionally win a race, Maldonardo (and Rosberg) didn't level up and suddenly become a better driver.
The only reason Hamilton was on pole was due to the car being underweight!!

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

254 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Stuck In A Lift said:
The only reason Hamilton was on pole was due to the car being underweight!!
Not true.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,230 posts

234 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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He must be the world's fastest vicar though biggrin

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

254 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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dom180 said:
Agree. Hamilton had a big margin even if a couple of tenths advantaged.

I do wonder whether he'd have won though - I hope we see a similar scenario play out soon.
Weight wasn't the issue. Stopping on the circuit was.

fatboy69

9,371 posts

186 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Hamiltons car wasnt underweight - he just didnt have enough fuel in it. I dont think that 1.3 litres of so of fuel would make that much difference to the weight of the car.


FWDRacer

3,564 posts

223 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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fatboy69 said:
Hamiltons car wasnt underweight - he just didnt have enough fuel in it. I dont think that 1.3 litres of so of fuel would make that much difference to the weight of the car.
1 litre = 0.7kg

vonuber

17,868 posts

164 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd thread goes 0 to Hamilton in 3.4s. Seriously people, can't we just have a dedicated thread for you all?

LordGrover

33,532 posts

211 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
He must be the world's fastest vicar though biggrin
Out!

NHK244V

3,358 posts

171 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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skwdenyer said:
Sounds like Frank is back on form smile
Oh lordy Frank i do miss you and your ilk of plain talking humans cool

toppstuff

13,698 posts

246 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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dom180 said:
fatboy69 said:
Hamiltons car wasnt underweight - he just didnt have enough fuel in it. I dont think that 1.3 litres of so of fuel would make that much difference to the weight of the car.
He had 1.3 litres left when told to park up and it would take 2.5 litres to get back to the pits plus needing .5 for the sample.... Allowing for tolerances maybe a tenth or two advantage on his hot lap...
Crickey, if even this much weight can cost a tenth of a second, does it mean that drivers have to take a dump before they get into the car for qualy? A big breakfast could make the difference between pole position and 5th on the grid.

C Lee Farquar

4,066 posts

215 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Johnboy Mac said:
Rollcage said:
Sam Michael has left, and gone to Mclaren. Can't you tell?
laugh
Yes, it wasn't lost on me that Sam achieved more for Williams last weekend than he did in all the time he worked there.

I can't help wondering how well Williams would be doing if the Kimi deal had gone through.

Life Saab Itch

37,068 posts

187 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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vonuber said:
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd thread goes 0 to Hamilton in 3.4s. Seriously people, can't we just have a dedicated thread for you all?
Indeed.

There was a suggestion of that a year or so ago...

People started behaving after that thread...