Billy Monger

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airbusA346

785 posts

153 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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AshBurrows said:
Absolutely gutted for the lad.

I assume there's a limit on how good prostheses on the NHS can be, which is what a lot of this money will be used for?
In the Autosport article, it quotes Steven Hunter (JHR) as saying "We came up with the target because that's what I could see on the internet for the cost of the prosthetics. The level of rehabilitation is going to way exceed that."

Dan_1981

17,375 posts

199 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Was also at Donington on Sunday.

Not pleasant at all and walking past the JHR tent / motorhome it was obvious things were not good, the same at the Carlin motorhome.

Confirmed by the air ambulance taking off from the paddock and landing on the track, it was then a good length of time before it took off again to take Billy to the hospital.

Thoughts are with him.

Massive kudos to the reaction, support and work done by the marshals, medics and emergency services at the track last weekend.

VladD

7,854 posts

265 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Dan_1981 said:
Massive kudos to the reaction, support and work done by the marshals, medics and emergency services at the track last weekend.
Indeed. I suspect a few of those guys and girls were effected by what they had to deal with. Hopefully they are all getting the support they need too.

RacerMike

4,197 posts

211 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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airbusA346 said:
AshBurrows said:
Absolutely gutted for the lad.

I assume there's a limit on how good prostheses on the NHS can be, which is what a lot of this money will be used for?
In the Autosport article, it quotes Steven Hunter (JHR) as saying "We came up with the target because that's what I could see on the internet for the cost of the prosthetics. The level of rehabilitation is going to way exceed that."
Something like the BionX active leg costs about £50k! And of course being 17, he'll need new ones as he gets older...

grumpy52

5,571 posts

166 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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VladD said:
Dan_1981 said:
Massive kudos to the reaction, support and work done by the marshals, medics and emergency services at the track last weekend.
Indeed. I suspect a few of those guys and girls were effected by what they had to deal with. Hopefully they are all getting the support they need too.
The follow up systems are in place and in my experience very good at supporting those that need it .
As all the medics at circuits tend to be very good at their chosen craft and motorsports enthusiasts we are blessed with the high level of trauma care at our motorsports events .


egor110

16,848 posts

203 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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RacerMike said:
airbusA346 said:
AshBurrows said:
Absolutely gutted for the lad.

I assume there's a limit on how good prostheses on the NHS can be, which is what a lot of this money will be used for?
In the Autosport article, it quotes Steven Hunter (JHR) as saying "We came up with the target because that's what I could see on the internet for the cost of the prosthetics. The level of rehabilitation is going to way exceed that."
Something like the BionX active leg costs about £50k! And of course being 17, he'll need new ones as he gets older...
is that the one with the gyroscope and microprocessors that learn how you move ?

i've got a soldier with no legs who's post i deliver and have some good wrong chat's with him about false legs and stuff.

TrickyTrevM5

297 posts

186 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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I've also added a few quid to the fund for the lad. Very sad to read the events of sunday and the outcome earlier today.

I am very heartened by the way that people who have an affinity to motorsport - or indeed participate in directly have got behind his situation.

People enjoy the exhilaration of racing and respect those who put it all out there on the track.

No one likes to see a story like this hit the news.

I hope that when all's said and done, he has a support network that help him to plan for the next few months and years, get him some usable prosthetics and that he can summon the courage up to get back into a car and have another go or feel the thrill of driving that he loved like the rest of us.

Good luck BillyWhizz!

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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grumpy52 said:
VladD said:
Dan_1981 said:
Massive kudos to the reaction, support and work done by the marshals, medics and emergency services at the track last weekend.
Indeed. I suspect a few of those guys and girls were effected by what they had to deal with. Hopefully they are all getting the support they need too.
The follow up systems are in place and in my experience very good at supporting those that need it .
As all the medics at circuits tend to be very good at their chosen craft and motorsports enthusiasts we are blessed with the high level of trauma care at our motorsports events .
The marshals club have reminded their members of the availability/routes to counselling if required in the last few days.

drainbrain

5,637 posts

111 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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I lost both legs above the knee aged 63 in an auto incident in Nov. '15. The NHS in Glasgow are superb. The prosthetics they've supplied me are Otto Bock Genium X3's which are the absolute state of the art bad boys. The NHS physios are an amazing crew as well and my rehab's run in consultation with Headley Court who are the country's most experienced amputee rehab crew, but strictly for military personnel only. The NHS get your rehab started as soon as possible after your amputation. And if Billy goes NHS his prosthetics will be upkept and upgraded for the rest of his life.

Hopefully Billy's are below-the-knee amputations which are a lot easier and quicker to rehab from than above the knee. But at his age, given as a racer he's probably got a big set of balls, he'll be starting to 'walk' again in only a few weeks, and within a year he'll be back in competitive sport again if he wants to be. He'll have all kinds of mentors including 'wounded warriors' not much older than himself. They'll soon have him showing what he can do - and inspiring him to do what he can't too!!

He's probably already watching youtube videos of Cameron Clapp and Heath Calhoun (if he's double above). DAK amps aren't allowed to drive manual cars on the road in UK, but there are plenty of vids of Staff Sgt. Calhoun driving various machines e.g.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUJbub1hG04

They and others are rehab'd by Kevin Carroll at the Hanger Clinic in Oklahoma. But don't underestimate the NHS, and the networking available for amputees in the UK. Put it this way, I'm just back from a half-mile walk along the promenade at Port de Soller in my 'training legs' and I'm flipping' 65!!

Billy'll be back in no time.

covboy

2,575 posts

174 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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mcdjl said:
grumpy52 said:
VladD said:
Dan_1981 said:
Massive kudos to the reaction, support and work done by the marshals, medics and emergency services at the track last weekend.
Indeed. I suspect a few of those guys and girls were effected by what they had to deal with. Hopefully they are all getting the support they need too.
The follow up systems are in place and in my experience very good at supporting those that need it .
As all the medics at circuits tend to be very good at their chosen craft and motorsports enthusiasts we are blessed with the high level of trauma care at our motorsports events .
The marshals club have reminded their members of the availability/routes to counselling if required in the last few days.
Worth bearing in mind the Medics are very competent Profesionals who deal with this sort of thing sometimes on a daily basis. The majority of Marshals are volunteers who willingly give up their spare time to attend races and to be faced with this situation is generally outside of their experience. It's good to see that even in the most trying circumstances the high level of support an action is still in evidence.

ptr997

9 posts

97 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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All thoughts to Billy & family, & a fantastic response to the fund raising.... however, please could someone look into the slightly insensitive pic on the homepage ! at the start of this thread.

DE15 CAT

355 posts

161 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Googled Ady Miles face book then 3 down Walsall man (Walsall man had 6,000 indecent images « Express & Star) headline seems same person very sick individual.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Such a terrible tragedy. I can't imagine what it must be like to suffer so much at such a young age. The overwhelming support from the community has been truly amazing and I feel like we've all done our bit to help him smooth out the obvious obstacles ahead of him and get him back to doing what he loves.

skeggysteve

5,724 posts

217 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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cjs racing. said:
While the big money from sports stars is wonderful, this is the one that bought a little tear to my eye.

Millie Davis

Sorry this is so little, I am only 11. I hope you get well soon and still stay happy! Good luck! Love Millie x

£2.00


Everybody giving what they can to this wonderful young man. Lets keep it going up.
Paul O'Neill has tweeted that if Millie can be found her and her family can be his guests at whatever circuit is best for them. Other teams/people have offered other stuff as well.

airbusA346

785 posts

153 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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skeggysteve said:
Paul O'Neill has tweeted that if Millie can be found her and her family can be his guests at whatever circuit is best for them. Other teams/people have offered other stuff as well.
Looks like contact details for her have been found and Paul O'Neill has sent an email.

dudleybloke

19,798 posts

186 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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DE15 CAT said:
Googled Ady Miles face book then 3 down Walsall man (Walsall man had 6,000 indecent images « Express & Star) headline seems same person very sick individual.
Yep. He's a nonce.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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drainbrain said:
Hopefully Billy's are below-the-knee amputations
From what the team spokes person said on the news earlier. One is just below knee (Left from memory), and the other is at the thigh.

Either way he's got a bit of hard work ahead, and hopefully the he's taking heart from all the people who want the best for him.

greygoose

8,249 posts

195 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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drainbrain said:
I lost both legs above the knee aged 63 in an auto incident in Nov. '15. The NHS in Glasgow are superb. The prosthetics they've supplied me are Otto Bock Genium X3's which are the absolute state of the art bad boys. The NHS physios are an amazing crew as well and my rehab's run in consultation with Headley Court who are the country's most experienced amputee rehab crew, but strictly for military personnel only. The NHS get your rehab started as soon as possible after your amputation. And if Billy goes NHS his prosthetics will be upkept and upgraded for the rest of his life.

Hopefully Billy's are below-the-knee amputations which are a lot easier and quicker to rehab from than above the knee. But at his age, given as a racer he's probably got a big set of balls, he'll be starting to 'walk' again in only a few weeks, and within a year he'll be back in competitive sport again if he wants to be. He'll have all kinds of mentors including 'wounded warriors' not much older than himself. They'll soon have him showing what he can do - and inspiring him to do what he can't too!!

He's probably already watching youtube videos of Cameron Clapp and Heath Calhoun (if he's double above). DAK amps aren't allowed to drive manual cars on the road in UK, but there are plenty of vids of Staff Sgt. Calhoun driving various machines e.g.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUJbub1hG04

They and others are rehab'd by Kevin Carroll at the Hanger Clinic in Oklahoma. But don't underestimate the NHS, and the networking available for amputees in the UK. Put it this way, I'm just back from a half-mile walk along the promenade at Port de Soller in my 'training legs' and I'm flipping' 65!!

Billy'll be back in no time.
Good to hear.

Quattromaster

2,907 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Just passed 600k, staggering.

Bravo to all concerned.

moffspeed

2,692 posts

207 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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So sorry for the lad, one of those freak accidents that you can't legislate against. "Motor Racing is Dangerous" was printed on entry tickets half a century ago when I was Billy's age and every little nipper accepts this when they climb aboard their Cadet Kart.

Apart from Billy and his family spare a thought for the marshals/paramedics/medics who were first on scene. Believe me, despite this being "their job", these kind of accidents are not the sort that are forgotten by Monday morning...