The 2018 Rallying thread..(WRC, ERC, etc)

The 2018 Rallying thread..(WRC, ERC, etc)

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chunder27

1,352 posts

144 months

Sunday 18th November
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As an alternative, huge crowd at Cadwell today, last stage finish for win and some classes, and some damn good driving.

GravelBen

13,433 posts

166 months

Monday 19th November
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DanielSan said:
GravelBen said:
Tanak himself probably needs to learn when to hold back and take points instead of risking everything for a win too - it was consistency more than outright pace that won Ogier this years and last years championships.
Tanak has had nothing to lose second half of the year when he's played catch up to Ogier and Neuville though, his only chance of catching them was to keep winning so that's what he tried to do.

Reset next year with a hopefully reliable Toyota that's still fast and he won't have to be pushing so hard and playing the catch up game again.
Fair point about it being his only option for the second half of the season. Was just thinking overall he tends to be podium or nothing, you don't see many mid points places from him. Has the potential to be another exciting season anyway!

tardelli

7 posts

52 months

Monday 19th November
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chunder27 said:
As an alternative, huge crowd at Cadwell today, last stage finish for win and some classes, and some damn good driving.
It was a great day
Tardelli

Slippydiff

9,824 posts

159 months

Monday 19th November
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ArnageWRC said:
I think questions need asking at Hyundai; two years in a row they've somehow crumbled when in a position to win. In fact, since winning Sardegna in June, Neuville has hardly looked like winning an event - the speed just hasn't been there. Add in the shambles of messing their drivers around, doing events here and there (particularly Paddon), and Mikkelsen being as useful as a chocolate teapot.

I never use the word deserve; the driver/ teams with the most points at the end, wins the Title. Simple. How they get those points is what matters; Ogier/ M-Sport have grabbed every opportunity possible, and made the most of it; Evans & Suninen have also helped when needed - a contrast to Hyundai, who have looked a bit amateur with their 'tactics'.

As for next year, the Tanak/Toyota combo looks the favourite; and they need to hit the ground running, and sort out the niggles that have cost him points.
I presume that comment is aimed at the car, rather than the driver .... ?? scratchchin

RyanTank

2,751 posts

90 months

Monday 19th November
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what an exiting and somewhat disappointing end to the season. I had a feeling that it wouldn't be the all out battle billed as SO & TN were never going to be troubling for the win with their road positions and fully expected team orders to come in. Elfyn and Teemu fully co-operative as usual allowing Seb to climb the rankings. I think had Thierry not had the puncture he would've binned it about the point he did too.
Happy Jari got a win too.

The second half of the season has been enthralling. clearly the Tanak/Toyota package is the strongest and should only get better next year, as will the whole Toyota team. Tanak for '19 champion and Toyota for the win again.
Hyundai need a good look at their tactics and selections before Monte I think as the team simply wasn't there to support as M-Sport's was for Seb. Andreas isn't getting to grips with the car and needs a serious work with himself and the engineers.

Lots of drivers in the last 2-3 events have been driving for their careers too, Elfyn, Craig, Hayden and Mads are but a few I feel. If Hayden could bring the sponsorship I could see him jumping to M-Sport for a full season. He's shown again he has the pace.
I do have concerns for M-Sport and a lot of chatter on social media about them not having a full programme next year and possibly running Teemu in the R5 championship. He's the only one confirmed with a M-Sport seat next year but as VW shows its not a given!

Interesting to see the announcements over the coming weeks and I hope to be there for the 2019 launch at Autosport in January.
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Allyc85

6,732 posts

122 months

Monday 26th November
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Talking of announcements, Skoda rally team have a press conference tomorrow. Really trying to not get my hopes up about a return to the top class! hehe

KillianB4

143 posts

47 months

Tuesday 27th November
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Allyc85 said:
Talking of announcements, Skoda rally team have a press conference tomorrow. Really trying to not get my hopes up about a return to the top class! hehe
How great would that be!

Allyc85

6,732 posts

122 months

Tuesday 27th November
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Just the unveiling of their new motorsport facility and upgraded R5 car unfortunately! We can keep on dreaming!

chunder27

1,352 posts

144 months

Tuesday 27th November
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Apparently 75 R5 cars booked in for Monza Rally show!!
That is fairly astonishing

fttm

1,578 posts

71 months

Wednesday 28th November
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Silver Fern 2018 well underway and plenty of action , looks fantastic again .

KillianB4

143 posts

47 months

Thursday 29th November
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chunder27 said:
Apparently 75 R5 cars booked in for Monza Rally show!!
That is fairly astonishing
I'd like to get to that at some point, time of year is rubbish for me though with work. Anyone on this thread been I wonder?

GravelBen

13,433 posts

166 months

Thursday 29th November
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fttm said:
Silver Fern 2018 well underway and plenty of action , looks fantastic again .
Looks like more UK drivers than locals in it this year hehe

Pretty small field compared to previous years actually, from what I've heard a lot of NZ drivers were put off by the extra cost - the event has been taken over by new organisers and is 8 days instead of the previous 5 or 6.

KillianB4

143 posts

47 months

Friday 30th November
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One of the best rounds of the Irish calendar is on tomorrow, the Killarney Historic or "Baby Lakes". Stellar entry and Craig Breen driving his newly aqquired 6R4 for the first time. The sound of that thing going up Molls Gap will be an event! David Bogie's new MK2 looks stunning also!! Unfortunately I have to work but I might be able to catch SS1 Molls Gap and then drive back up to work if I get creative on the way home. Check out Breen's insta for Metro goodness! Onthepacenote will be providing facebook live coverage/end of stage interviews/timings for anyone interested

GravelBen

13,433 posts

166 months

Friday 30th November
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fttm said:
Silver Fern 2018 well underway and plenty of action , looks fantastic again .
Just seen they are doing the legendary Motu stage on the final day of the rally... thats a bit mean!

"start 30 to a square right DGW, flat off left…twisty for 50km to finish"

Some classic Motu stories here: http://nzrallychamps.co.nz/how-do-you-master-the-m...

article said:
The 1977 Heatway International Rally NZ used the Motu stage starting at Motu heading north to Opotiki. The stage started at 4.44am in the morning and Kiwi co-driver Jim Scott was alongside Finnish rally star Ari Vatanen in the Masport Escort, a drive that would be come part of NZ rallying legend. Jim takes up the story.

“We headed into the Motu stage after passing all 3 Fiats in the stage prior. Once we started its right, left, right, left and after a couple of kilometres Ari says “Jim forget about the notes you will never keep up in here.“ Two corners later and the front of the Escort is hanging over a bank and I’m out pushing. Back on the road and we set off again and Ari replys, “You better get back on those notes Jim.`

Pwig

11,869 posts

206 months

Friday 30th November
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I see Dave Richards and Phil Mills are out on the Eagle Rally on Saturday night.

Be interesting to see them down the lanes!

fttm

1,578 posts

71 months

Sunday 2nd December
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KillianB4 said:
One of the best rounds of the Irish calendar is on tomorrow, the Killarney Historic or "Baby Lakes". Stellar entry and Craig Breen driving his newly aqquired 6R4 for the first time. The sound of that thing going up Molls Gap will be an event! David Bogie's new MK2 looks stunning also!! Unfortunately I have to work but I might be able to catch SS1 Molls Gap and then drive back up to work if I get creative on the way home. Check out Breen's insta for Metro goodness! Onthepacenote will be providing facebook live coverage/end of stage interviews/timings for anyone interested
The in-car of Breen going over Molls Gap is on Youtube now , shame his prop broke later on , but holy fk he shows his talent .

DelicaL400

220 posts

47 months

Sunday 2nd December
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Everyone wetting themselves over Formula E and electric rallycross needs to listen to that in-car video and also the external footage of Breen in Killarney.

KillianB4

143 posts

47 months

Monday 3rd December
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fttm said:
The in-car of Breen going over Molls Gap is on Youtube now , shame his prop broke later on , but holy fk he shows his talent .
There's been many great videos of Molls over the years, but that has rocketed right up there. That incar footage was the highlight of my weekend.

thepawbroon

642 posts

120 months

Monday 3rd December
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The Scottish Government consultation into closed-road motorsport has been launched.

If you are a fan of the Mull Rally and/or Jim Clark Rally, this affects you.

https://consult.gov.scot/transport-scotland/motors...

would echo the words of Dave Richards:

"We urge the motorsport community to respond positively to the consultation and help us realise the possibility of a new generation of closed-road events in Scotland."

If you are a competitor, volunteer, supporter, fan, affected business, etc - please please please take this chance to have your say, and help return our amazing events to the calendar.

chunder27

1,352 posts

144 months

Monday 3rd December
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I simply clicked yes on most of it.

Do not agree with roads being repaired, that should be a part of the event, cautioned, advised in event route notes.

And if repaired, should be paid for by the MSA or local association, not the council, that is how bad PR starts.

Yes, of the issue is potentially dangerous like a huge pothole repair it, but a bridge, slippy surface, area that can be cut. No, there are ways to prevent these things, in pace notes, coning, and signage.