The 2018 Rallying thread..(WRC, ERC, etc)
Discussion
fttm said:
Silver Fern 2018 well underway and plenty of action , looks fantastic again .
Looks like more UK drivers than locals in it this year Pretty small field compared to previous years actually, from what I've heard a lot of NZ drivers were put off by the extra cost - the event has been taken over by new organisers and is 8 days instead of the previous 5 or 6.
One of the best rounds of the Irish calendar is on tomorrow, the Killarney Historic or "Baby Lakes". Stellar entry and Craig Breen driving his newly aqquired 6R4 for the first time. The sound of that thing going up Molls Gap will be an event! David Bogie's new MK2 looks stunning also!! Unfortunately I have to work but I might be able to catch SS1 Molls Gap and then drive back up to work if I get creative on the way home. Check out Breen's insta for Metro goodness! Onthepacenote will be providing facebook live coverage/end of stage interviews/timings for anyone interested
fttm said:
Silver Fern 2018 well underway and plenty of action , looks fantastic again .
Just seen they are doing the legendary Motu stage on the final day of the rally... thats a bit mean! "start 30 to a square right DGW, flat off left…twisty for 50km to finish"
Some classic Motu stories here: http://nzrallychamps.co.nz/how-do-you-master-the-m...
article said:
The 1977 Heatway International Rally NZ used the Motu stage starting at Motu heading north to Opotiki. The stage started at 4.44am in the morning and Kiwi co-driver Jim Scott was alongside Finnish rally star Ari Vatanen in the Masport Escort, a drive that would be come part of NZ rallying legend. Jim takes up the story.
“We headed into the Motu stage after passing all 3 Fiats in the stage prior. Once we started its right, left, right, left and after a couple of kilometres Ari says “Jim forget about the notes you will never keep up in here.“ Two corners later and the front of the Escort is hanging over a bank and I’m out pushing. Back on the road and we set off again and Ari replys, “You better get back on those notes Jim.`
“We headed into the Motu stage after passing all 3 Fiats in the stage prior. Once we started its right, left, right, left and after a couple of kilometres Ari says “Jim forget about the notes you will never keep up in here.“ Two corners later and the front of the Escort is hanging over a bank and I’m out pushing. Back on the road and we set off again and Ari replys, “You better get back on those notes Jim.`
KillianB4 said:
One of the best rounds of the Irish calendar is on tomorrow, the Killarney Historic or "Baby Lakes". Stellar entry and Craig Breen driving his newly aqquired 6R4 for the first time. The sound of that thing going up Molls Gap will be an event! David Bogie's new MK2 looks stunning also!! Unfortunately I have to work but I might be able to catch SS1 Molls Gap and then drive back up to work if I get creative on the way home. Check out Breen's insta for Metro goodness! Onthepacenote will be providing facebook live coverage/end of stage interviews/timings for anyone interested
The in-car of Breen going over Molls Gap is on Youtube now , shame his prop broke later on , but holy fk he shows his talent .The Scottish Government consultation into closed-road motorsport has been launched.
If you are a fan of the Mull Rally and/or Jim Clark Rally, this affects you.
https://consult.gov.scot/transport-scotland/motors...
would echo the words of Dave Richards:
"We urge the motorsport community to respond positively to the consultation and help us realise the possibility of a new generation of closed-road events in Scotland."
If you are a competitor, volunteer, supporter, fan, affected business, etc - please please please take this chance to have your say, and help return our amazing events to the calendar.
If you are a fan of the Mull Rally and/or Jim Clark Rally, this affects you.
https://consult.gov.scot/transport-scotland/motors...
would echo the words of Dave Richards:
"We urge the motorsport community to respond positively to the consultation and help us realise the possibility of a new generation of closed-road events in Scotland."
If you are a competitor, volunteer, supporter, fan, affected business, etc - please please please take this chance to have your say, and help return our amazing events to the calendar.
I simply clicked yes on most of it.
Do not agree with roads being repaired, that should be a part of the event, cautioned, advised in event route notes.
And if repaired, should be paid for by the MSA or local association, not the council, that is how bad PR starts.
Yes, of the issue is potentially dangerous like a huge pothole repair it, but a bridge, slippy surface, area that can be cut. No, there are ways to prevent these things, in pace notes, coning, and signage.
Do not agree with roads being repaired, that should be a part of the event, cautioned, advised in event route notes.
And if repaired, should be paid for by the MSA or local association, not the council, that is how bad PR starts.
Yes, of the issue is potentially dangerous like a huge pothole repair it, but a bridge, slippy surface, area that can be cut. No, there are ways to prevent these things, in pace notes, coning, and signage.
Only watched Craig's short Instagram video in the 6r4 but left me drooling for more, not yet had the chance to catch the rest, disappointed he ended as he did but that's rallying, and better a drive shaft than bending the car!!
Interesting news regarding the Abu Dhabi and Citroen failing to agree terms meaning they drop to a 2 car team at the moment.
Ostberg and Breen are now free agents, Mads released a statement saying he has no deal in place for 2019 after this news, Breen apparently still in talks with M-Sport and Hyundai, interesting on that last one as not sure where Breen would fit in there?
Patiently awaiting the M-Sport drivers/programme announcement
Interesting news regarding the Abu Dhabi and Citroen failing to agree terms meaning they drop to a 2 car team at the moment.
Ostberg and Breen are now free agents, Mads released a statement saying he has no deal in place for 2019 after this news, Breen apparently still in talks with M-Sport and Hyundai, interesting on that last one as not sure where Breen would fit in there?
Patiently awaiting the M-Sport drivers/programme announcement
Also perplexed as to where VW & Skoda are both going with their R5 programs? the Polo R5 are close to double figures sales last I was told. Surely they are product sharing and not stand alone?? the Fabia having just had an evolution as well as a new factory?!
Surely it cant be cost effective for the VAG group to have both depts competing together?
Surely it cant be cost effective for the VAG group to have both depts competing together?
RyanTank said:
Also perplexed as to where VW & Skoda are both going with their R5 programs? the Polo R5 are close to double figures sales last I was told. Surely they are product sharing and not stand alone?? the Fabia having just had an evolution as well as a new factory?!
Surely it cant be cost effective for the VAG group to have both depts competing together?
Well in terms of sound they sound exactly the same to me!Surely it cant be cost effective for the VAG group to have both depts competing together?
WRC TRIBUTE 2018: Maximum Attack, On the Limit, Crashes & Best Moments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADxopyDzEMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADxopyDzEMU
RyanTank said:
Only watched Craig's short Instagram video in the 6r4 but left me drooling for more, not yet had the chance to catch the rest, disappointed he ended as he did but that's rallying, and better a drive shaft than bending the car!!
Interesting news regarding the Abu Dhabi and Citroen failing to agree terms meaning they drop to a 2 car team at the moment.
Ostberg and Breen are now free agents, Mads released a statement saying he has no deal in place for 2019 after this news, Breen apparently still in talks with M-Sport and Hyundai, interesting on that last one as not sure where Breen would fit in there?
Patiently awaiting the M-Sport drivers/programme announcement
I'd quite like to see Breen at M Sport.Interesting news regarding the Abu Dhabi and Citroen failing to agree terms meaning they drop to a 2 car team at the moment.
Ostberg and Breen are now free agents, Mads released a statement saying he has no deal in place for 2019 after this news, Breen apparently still in talks with M-Sport and Hyundai, interesting on that last one as not sure where Breen would fit in there?
Patiently awaiting the M-Sport drivers/programme announcement
chunder27 said:
Why, they are utterly separate companies.
It's nothing new
Well of course they are. It's nothing new
It just strikes me as odd that VW pulled out of the WRC after the emissions scandal to save costs, mothballed the 2017 car they fully developed, despite rumours it’d run under the Skoda badge (again down to costs to VAG) But moved on to the R5 programme and thus potentially, likely, taking away from its own very successful current R5 programme under the Skoda arm.
The car market and companies were very different in the early 00’s when Pug & Citroen we’re competing together. I couldn’t see a repeat in this current market.
confucuis said:
Well in terms of sound they sound exactly the same to me!
From the few vids I’ve seen I noticed they sounded similar too, the same wheezy wastegate chatter isn’t it? And that the Polo is a much bigger looking car than the Fabia appears, so how does it compare speed and agility wise will be interesting to see. Gassing Station | General Motorsport | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff