Le Mans on Eurosport

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FourWheelDrift

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88,486 posts

284 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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I never wish ill on anyone but I hope Carlton Kirby loses his voice for the weekend.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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Not sure where Martin Haven is but other than Addison and Hancock the qualifying commentary has been relatively painful.

stewartm

63 posts

127 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Solution:

  • Mute the sound on Eurosport
  • Fire up the PC
  • Head to: http://www.radiolemans.co/
  • Listen to commentary there = THE ONLY commentary for Le Mans
Sorry not to be there this year, but this lot will be keeping me sane throughout in Chorley smile

Kraken

1,710 posts

200 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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It's the same people on Radio Le Mans as Eurosport in the main as they swap in and out though isn't it?

In general the commentarty on Le Mans is pretty awful. McNish is a breath of fresh air talking about the cars and what is going on on track rather than ancient history or endlessly bickering about some point no-one cares about.

stewartm

63 posts

127 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Is it? I didn't think was the case - certainly wasn't last time I was watching it from home. Mr Kirby certainly has never cropped up on RLM or the charlies who were rabbiting all over qually last night.

Hindy tends to disappear after race build up, so if he is not to your taste, he is not around much during the race. Different pit lane team as well as far as I know.

chunder27

2,309 posts

208 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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I have said on several occasions that I am sure Kirby must have some sort of blackmail deal on someone high up at Eurosport, or be a son or something, as he is the most woeful, ill informed, stupid, rude, pointless commentator I have ever heard. He speaks French, so maybe that's why. as Eurosport are blatantly French.

Talk to people who watch cycling and they will say the same.

From a script fine, but he should never, ever be allowed to ad lib.

DanielSan

18,773 posts

167 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Is Liz Halliday commentating again this year? Please god someone say no!

outnumbered

4,083 posts

234 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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DanielSan said:
Is Liz Halliday commentating again this year? Please god someone say no!
She isn't.

Carlton never fails to ruin my enjoyment of a race, quite frankly, by the way. At least with cycling they have a bunch of other good commentators now, so you don't always get him.

I don't mind the rest of the Eurosport crew, but I'd still swap between TV and RLM in order to get the benefit of Trusser's insight.

37chevy

3,280 posts

156 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Can’t believe some of the rubbish I’m reading on here. Yes some of their commentating techniques might not be to everyone’s taste but the knowledge of Le Mans and sportscar Racing between the RLM and Eurosport crew along with their contacts within the sport which allows guest commentators is unparalleled in any other form of Motorsport. Can you imagine the f1 crew being able to talk for 24 hours, plus all the practice and qualifying sessions and keep it interesting...I think not.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Kraken said:
It's the same people on Radio Le Mans as Eurosport in the main as they swap in and out though isn't it?

In general the commentarty on Le Mans is pretty awful. McNish is a breath of fresh air talking about the cars and what is going on on track rather than ancient history or endlessly bickering about some point no-one cares about.
24 hours is a LONG slot to fill.

The most I have ever done is 8 consecutive hours. It gets exponentially harder to keep it fresh and interesting as the session goes on.

Kraken

1,710 posts

200 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Vocal Minority said:
24 hours is a LONG slot to fill.

The most I have ever done is 8 consecutive hours. It gets exponentially harder to keep it fresh and interesting as the session goes on.
I appreciate that by why the endless arguments every single year with each one trying to prove they're right and they didn't actually make a mistake?

Sometimes I just have to mute the sound as it's so cringeworthy.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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That's fair enough. Know what you mean about McNish - I find him very interesting if a shade intense sometimes.

Toby Moody came up with an interesting point at Shelsley Walsh recently, well relayed an interesting point Allan McNish made. There is a golf club with a lake just on the inside of Mulsanne Corner - and so during the evening all the midges would congregate around there - and you'd leave the pits with a nice clear screen, and then under braking for Mulsanne - *splat splat splat splat* as you went through a cloud of bugs and came out blind!

TartanPaint

2,982 posts

139 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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FIA WEC app. £8.99 for the Le Mans 24h package. Perfect streaming quality.

Live Timing
Choice of cameras
Cast to TV
No advert breaks


Why anyone would bother with Eurosport is beyond me.

olliethehut

135 posts

173 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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TartanPaint said:
FIA WEC app. £8.99 for the Le Mans 24h package. Perfect streaming quality.

Live Timing
Choice of cameras
Cast to TV
No advert breaks


Why anyone would bother with Eurosport is beyond me.
Because you get all the other sports as well as Le Mans?
The Eurosport app gives the ad free no-comms feed. Like other have said - Turn it down (or low so you still get the engine sounds) and pop RLM on the radio.
And the Eurosport player was 99p for 12 months on black Friday.

stewartm

63 posts

127 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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@Kraken

Can't say I noticed that especially, other than Nick Daman was banging on endlessly about something at the end of last years race. Managed to tune that out as I was meandering around Parc Ferme drooling in the sun smile

Nick Daman I supect is definitely a bit of a marmite character and his primary interest is F1 so he can jog on anyway. Shea Adam is always great in the pits, Trussers is just a bit of a legend for stats enthusiasts and as mentioned above, RLM are well connected and so get some great mid race guests. Leena Gade was really good last year.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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TartanPaint said:
FIA WEC app. £8.99 for the Le Mans 24h package. Perfect streaming quality.

Live Timing
Choice of cameras
Cast to TV
No advert breaks


Why anyone would bother with Eurosport is beyond me.
Maybe because in 2015 and 2016 it was perfect and then last year it was terrible with poor connectivity and website issues.

I use the Eurosport no commentary feed and it is good enough.

To me even Radio Le Mans commentary is not that good, if you have listened to them at 3am in the morning when they are finding things to talk about. Last year that Geordie bloke wittering on about something for no less than 20 minutes around 6am UK time when he was wrong in the first place. I remember shouting give it a bloody rest.


df76

3,627 posts

278 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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As above, mute the Eurosport "no ad" stream, and play RLM. That's the only solution. Full 24h coverage. Tbh, there were times last night where I also had to do without RLM, but the sounds on the Eurosport stream were just fine for a while.

Altrezia

8,517 posts

211 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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olliethehut said:
The Eurosport app gives the ad free no-comms feed. Like other have said - Turn it down (or low so you still get the engine sounds) and pop RLM on the radio.
This. smile

Kraken

1,710 posts

200 months

Saturday 16th June 2018
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Shouldn't have to go to those sort of lengths though.

All I ask is that when a car is clearly shown on screen having issues they talk about that rather than arguing about whether a car in 1966 had a 5ft wheelbase or a 5ft 1" wheelbase for 20 minutes.

If I wanted to hear endlessly about past races I'd buy the DVD or use my memory. 99.99% of the time it's not relevant to whats going on on track. By all means if there are multiple slow zones and all the analysis of the incidents has been done but the other year they started on with another historical tangent with two laps to go and a great Aston battle raging. Fortunately one of the other commentators stepped up to the plate and shot them down that time. All too rare though.

freedman

5,406 posts

207 months

Saturday 16th June 2018
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37chevy said:
Can’t believe some of the rubbish I’m reading on here. Yes some of their commentating techniques might not be to everyone’s taste but the knowledge of Le Mans and sportscar Racing between the RLM and Eurosport crew along with their contacts within the sport which allows guest commentators is unparalleled in any other form of Motorsport. Can you imagine the f1 crew being able to talk for 24 hours, plus all the practice and qualifying sessions and keep it interesting...I think not.
Its not technique that is the issue

Mark Cole and to an even greater extent, Carlton Kirby appear completely incapable of explaining what is happening in front of them, or as is the norm, actually inventing something that simply didn't happen. ie, Priaulxs Ford GT crashing when he put a wheel off in the dirt (quite clearly) only for them to spend an hour telling everyone it was due to rain, when there hadn't been so much as a spit

They have both been doing this job for many years, yet appear utterly clueless