Kart racing win modifications

Kart racing win modifications

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ferg1986

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67 posts

141 months

Wednesday 11th July 2018
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Does anyone have advice for wringing the maximum performance out of a arrive and drive pro kart?

I've seen people jump coming out of a bend to improve pickup.

Any other advice? I'm off to a long race soon and any help would be mega

DIW35

4,145 posts

200 months

Wednesday 11th July 2018
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Lose a couple of stone in weight.

CanoeSniffer

927 posts

87 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Jumping up and down in a kart is a mugs game- if it's a long race (as you put it) and in even halfway fast karts you'll soon be regretting the energy expense in trying it.

Smoothness, lines, concentration- the only advice I can give beyond ^^^lose weight.

The Moose

22,845 posts

209 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Pay the guys to give you the fastest karts - there’s usually one that has just been overhauled

slipstream 1985

12,220 posts

179 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Look for the one with the newest tyres. Jumping s more a psycological thing. Be smooth, sideways isn't fast.

daniel1920

310 posts

118 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Stars will give you around 15 seconds boost also making you near indestructible (careful of drops though)

Mushrooms are available too, either 1 or 3, for a hit of boost, but ultimately lack the control of a star.

Sorry - Nostalgia rotate

Peanut Gallery

2,426 posts

110 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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^^^^^ but avoid the banana skins.

I was carting last week, I can confirm that the wrong line causes understeer, which is fun. Slamming on brakes mid corner causes massive slides, which is fun, pushing too hard causes spin outs, which can be fun. I ended the race no where near the front, but with a massive grin. The laps I got right were faster, but the lighter guys just left everyone in a straight line.


TL:DR, feed your competition lots of pork pies, and keep it smooth and tidy.

David87

6,652 posts

212 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Don’t be tall or fat. I recommend being a 12-year-old boy.

Vaud

50,450 posts

155 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Go for a practice there first and ask about lines, etc.

fido

16,796 posts

255 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Being able to steer the kart accurately and consistently matters if you're doing long races. Especially in this heat. I am doing a 40 minute race this weekend and haven't done any exercises for weeks. And eye surgery. Luckily my mate is absolute pants!

Cardinal Hips

323 posts

72 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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David87 said:
Don’t be tall or fat. I recommend being a 12-year-old boy.
This, when I was that age my dad took me to a few of his works karting events and we won 2 of them. I weighed about the same as a packet of rizla at the time. His work mates were proper units so it was like they were going backwards at most points. Try getting a head transplant with a capuchin monkey and you'll be on the podium in no time.

J4CKO

41,529 posts

200 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Grab it by the scruff of the neck and go flat out just about everywhere, Karts can always corner faster than most think they can and approach it like driving a road car, get to that level of wrestling it round and then try and develop some finesse once there.

Dont be polite. I lost out in the last one I did being polite for a lady colleague on one who had spun despite setting the fastest lap by some margin I didnt win, I got stuck behind a chap out of the office as well, slow but made that cart very wide and not slow enough to pick off easily but was backing off, very frustrating.

Being light helps but if you carry plenty of speed by not backing off all the time you can mitigate it a bit, but not as much as someone light doing the same thing.

At the end of the day, enjoy it, its a bit of fun but take no prisoners !

Decky_Q

1,509 posts

177 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Lean back when you need grip on the rears (long flat out bends) and lean forward when you need grip on the front (hard braking/hairpins), when pulling up to the grid accidentally miss your spot and do a hot lap to warm your tyres a little more than others, keep smooth, if you're faster get past don't let a slower driver hold you back for more than 1/4 lap or you're being soft (a bit of bumping is to be expected and they'll move over next time).

And finally don't be really competitive if most people are there for fun, I am a horrible when racing because I'm focused on one thing but very chilled when out with work colleagues/family etc. After a race I can laugh at bruised ribs as can the other guys, your IT manger probably wont find it as funny.

tejr

3,105 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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I found weight can help with better cornering traction, but lighter guys pull away on the straights. So being heavier isn't necessarily as big a handicap as it sounds. Think Nissan GT-R wink

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Do some strength exercises on your arms and wrists, so you get tired after your opponents do.

CO2000

3,177 posts

209 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Go early and watch what lines quick folk take and if/where they brake & speak to the staff as one will prob hold the lap record and quizz him/her smile


Vitorio

4,296 posts

143 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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practice mostly

If you're the guy who knows how to properly take a chicane and which corners you can pull off flat out, that will be seconds off your laptime compared to the guys who dont know the limits

AdeRacing

31 posts

70 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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tejr said:
I found weight can help with better cornering traction, but lighter guys pull away on the straights. So being heavier isn't necessarily as big a handicap as it sounds. Think Nissan GT-R wink
Weight is weight. I used to race at Buckmore primarily and won several heavyweight titles and team titles. In the team races my team mate was one of the top lightweights and we were always exactly 0.9 seconds apart on our best dry laps which was the 30kg in weight difference at the time.

In arrive and drive there is a big difference in abilities so it may appear that cornering is better but a lightweight driver who knows what he's doing will have an advantage everywhere. The mid corner phase is where it's at its smallest so a good heavyweight will make up ground on an average lightweight at that point.

To get faster in equal karts the only way is to lose weight and practise.

Benrad

650 posts

149 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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I'm guessing British 24hr at Teesside?

Video below is me doing the same course you'll be doing on a damp cold day in the SG Petch Sprint Championship, they've banned helmet cams now so this footage is quite old and my driving is far from perfect, but you'll get an idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABTyhPw3JmI&t=281s

Benrad's mini track guide to Teesside international (assuming dry conditions, also I race in the lightweight class at 70kg, for the 24hr you ballast up to 85kg so that might change some of this)

Pit straight approaching the first chicane (or 'D' as it's known)
Smoothly over to the right, slow steering input to the left with a short lift to about half throttle. Back to full power as you leave the apex on your left and let it run the right hand two wheels up onto the right hand kerb slightly. It's faster to take quite a chunk of the right hand kerb, but in a 24hr race you'll risk kart damage.

Flat out through the left hander down the hill, keep the steering inputs as little as possible to keep the speed up.

Approaching the right hander at the bottom of the hill, brake near the pit exit, there's a HUGE bump on braking so don't try and brake super late, you'll be off. Bleed off the brake pressure as you approach the apex and then straight from brakes to full power just before the apex.

Keep to the left, but don't run your left hand wheels onto the entry kerb, it tends to drag you off. Lift and light brakes as you turn in, stay off the right hand kerb but get close to it, brake before the left hand and back on the power early to get up the hill (really important to maximise exit speed from that corner). Right hander at the top of the hill is flat, smooth slow steering inputs and lean your body to the outside (left) to 'jack' the rear axle and reduce oversteer. Loooooong straight.

The complex is flat out if you dare but lift if you need to to stay off the kerbs, particularly the last one on the left. Hit that and you'll never get it stopped for the hairpin.

Braking for first hairpin is just after the last apex of the complex, don't worry too much about braking super late or getting really far over to the right. Carry brakes into your turn in (keep the steering input slow and smooth) and back on the power as early as you can.

Make sure you get all the way over to the left (every single inch is worth time) before turning into the second hairpin. You might need a slight lift depending on the state of your tyres.

Approaching 'South Bank' corner, it's flat. If you find you're understeering wide then shift your weight to the outside (left) and you'll find the understeer stops.

For the third hairpin brake on the patch of new tarmac, carry brakes to the apex and power early. Get all the way over to the right before turning into the fourth hairpin. Might just about be flat out or a small lift, smoothness is key. Then it's flat all the way to the line!

joema

2,648 posts

179 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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What Karts do they use?

Main thing is to be smooth and keep as much consistency as possible. Don't brake really late and carry decent corner speed.