2019 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and all other)!
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Brilliant win for Ogier, how people laughed when I said he would! Obviously he had some luck with Tanak's puncture, but I thought from SS1 that he was more ragged and taking more risks than the others.
Impressive drive from Meeke, taking full points on the last stage. Especially given his lack of seat time in the Yaris and the new pairing with Seb Marshal.
Great stuff from Greensmith. Always thought of him as a consistent driver, rather than a quick one, but he put in some great times and kept his concentration well. I too thought his comment about Kalle a bit too big headed, but I guess these things happen when the adrenaline is flowing at the stop line.
Bit of a shame that WRC+ only seemed to show the Pro boys, it really didn't show the whole picture in WRC2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuFNb6cgOlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKTmOndKQk&t=...
Looks like we are in for another epic season
Impressive drive from Meeke, taking full points on the last stage. Especially given his lack of seat time in the Yaris and the new pairing with Seb Marshal.
Great stuff from Greensmith. Always thought of him as a consistent driver, rather than a quick one, but he put in some great times and kept his concentration well. I too thought his comment about Kalle a bit too big headed, but I guess these things happen when the adrenaline is flowing at the stop line.
Bit of a shame that WRC+ only seemed to show the Pro boys, it really didn't show the whole picture in WRC2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuFNb6cgOlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKTmOndKQk&t=...
Looks like we are in for another epic season
Edited by Allyc85 on Sunday 27th January 17:21
Yes Seb Ogier looked a bit hesitant on the first stage. Maybe a combination of the car settings and the co drivers encouragement after that put him back on track. He certainly seemed to have what looked like the best lines on the videos I've watched.
T Neuville is pretty consistent too.
Should be a great season.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
ArnageWRC said:
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Brilliant by Gus.
If he continues to impress then a full-time WRC drive could be on the cards.
hmmm. a good result as a win is a win, but Rovenpera handed it to him on day one, and generally smashed him in stage times there after. He needs to win with no issues to Rovanpera then maybe a WRC drive is on the cards.If he continues to impress then a full-time WRC drive could be on the cards.
How many in WRC2 pro BTW?
chunder27 said:
If Ogier can win on gravel I will start shouting, the car has always been good on tar and Ogier is something of a Monte master like Loeb was.
But Finland, RAC, that's is where you can truly say he has made that car special.
I very much doubt you’ll “start shouting” his praises if he wins on gravel, ice, snow or any other surface you can conjure up. It’s very clear to all on here you have some kind of grudge against him, so when he does win on gravel (and it’s pretty much a given he will) you’ll come up with some other “excuse” as to why he won. It’s your modus operandi.But Finland, RAC, that's is where you can truly say he has made that car special.
Shut up you utterly biased man.
Ogier for me goes miles in front of Loeb already in terms of ability as he has at least won in two types of car!
I have no real issue with Ogier, he moans a lot about lots of things sometimes rightly as WRC have persistently tried to nullify his advantage when they did little about Loeb winning for a decade, but he still wins, and I will not be the only person around who says that.
Other than that he is the best out there by a margin.
So keep your inane, biased drivel to yourself.
The boy has won on gravel for years, but the Citroen has provide to be a far poorer car on that surface than tar, that was my point if you could actually try and remove your bias glasses and read the post before replying.
Ogier for me goes miles in front of Loeb already in terms of ability as he has at least won in two types of car!
I have no real issue with Ogier, he moans a lot about lots of things sometimes rightly as WRC have persistently tried to nullify his advantage when they did little about Loeb winning for a decade, but he still wins, and I will not be the only person around who says that.
Other than that he is the best out there by a margin.
So keep your inane, biased drivel to yourself.
The boy has won on gravel for years, but the Citroen has provide to be a far poorer car on that surface than tar, that was my point if you could actually try and remove your bias glasses and read the post before replying.
Alex Langheck said:
f
king bd bks.My busy life means the only easy way for me to watch WRC was via the 1 hour freeview shows I recorded on Channel 5.
Just as with F1, while I have been a lifelong fan of WRC, the current "spectacle" does not make it worth me paying for a subscription to a sports channel - especially when I do not watch any other sports.
All this promise of enhanced coverage is of little use to me if I only have time to watch the highlights show.
chunder27 said:
Shut up you utterly biased man.
Ogier for me goes miles in front of Loeb already in terms of ability as he has at least won in two types of car!
I have no real issue with Ogier, he moans a lot about lots of things sometimes rightly as WRC have persistently tried to nullify his advantage when they did little about Loeb winning for a decade, but he still wins, and I will not be the only person around who says that.
Other than that he is the best out there by a margin.
So keep your inane, biased drivel to yourself.
The boy has won on gravel for years, but the Citroen has provide to be a far poorer car on that surface than tar, that was my point if you could actually try and remove your bias glasses and read the post before replying.
I’d be more than happy to keep MY inane biased drivel to myself, if you could do the same it would be absolutely dandy. Thanks. Ogier for me goes miles in front of Loeb already in terms of ability as he has at least won in two types of car!
I have no real issue with Ogier, he moans a lot about lots of things sometimes rightly as WRC have persistently tried to nullify his advantage when they did little about Loeb winning for a decade, but he still wins, and I will not be the only person around who says that.
Other than that he is the best out there by a margin.
So keep your inane, biased drivel to yourself.
The boy has won on gravel for years, but the Citroen has provide to be a far poorer car on that surface than tar, that was my point if you could actually try and remove your bias glasses and read the post before replying.
GravelBen said:
Play nicely now kids! 
But he started it Dad !! 
But seriously, having a pop at Seb Loeb for having won all his WRC titles whilst only having for Citroen is a bit lame. Even more so when the Frenchman came back last year and won in Spain in a very different car from those he used to win those titles.
Great to see Seb L and Daniel Elena having some friendly banter with their interviewer and SL taking the mickey out of Daniel for spending day one of the rally “complaining in the car”.
FWIW, I think this year’s title fight should be an absolute cracker !
Ok let's be frank.
Loeb was dominant, to the point of utterly ruining WRC for fans and viewers, is that his fault? No, As a fan do I like it, No. So I am allowed to not like the man much.
He did little in GT racing or rallycross and WTCC so can only presume his main skill is as a rally driver, fair enough.
He only ever drive one brand, several cars utterly designed around him and his style and talent, Ogier started beating him and what happened, he was soon on his way out.
He had no competition for most of his career other than Solberg the odd time, Hirvonen and Gronholm, all in inferior cars and all drivers who drove for more than one manufacturer.
While I applaud his skill, speed and ability, he single handedly brought WRC to its knees, biggest budget, best car, best driver, what's to like?
At least Ogier has done it in several cars, even before then in the C4, VW, Ford and now Citroen again.
That for me is a far, far bigger achievement than anything Loeb did.
So, getting all uppity because I once said I am not a fan of Ogier that much, when he is probably the least popular of the current drivers because of his moaning and whingeing means you have looked at my username, my post history and formed an opinion based on that, not what I said.
Well done to you and your little followers.
Loeb was dominant, to the point of utterly ruining WRC for fans and viewers, is that his fault? No, As a fan do I like it, No. So I am allowed to not like the man much.
He did little in GT racing or rallycross and WTCC so can only presume his main skill is as a rally driver, fair enough.
He only ever drive one brand, several cars utterly designed around him and his style and talent, Ogier started beating him and what happened, he was soon on his way out.
He had no competition for most of his career other than Solberg the odd time, Hirvonen and Gronholm, all in inferior cars and all drivers who drove for more than one manufacturer.
While I applaud his skill, speed and ability, he single handedly brought WRC to its knees, biggest budget, best car, best driver, what's to like?
At least Ogier has done it in several cars, even before then in the C4, VW, Ford and now Citroen again.
That for me is a far, far bigger achievement than anything Loeb did.
So, getting all uppity because I once said I am not a fan of Ogier that much, when he is probably the least popular of the current drivers because of his moaning and whingeing means you have looked at my username, my post history and formed an opinion based on that, not what I said.
Well done to you and your little followers.
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