2019 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and all other)!

2019 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and all other)!

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DelicaL400

241 posts

49 months

Wednesday 23rd January
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GravelBen said:
Formula E will pay a bunch of media outlets lots of money to cover it... and hardly anybody who is actually interested in cars will care,
And yet there are three times as many posts on here about the one electric championship than there are about the whole of rallying!

ArnageWRC

926 posts

97 months

Wednesday 23rd January
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DelicaL400 said:
GravelBen said:
Formula E will pay a bunch of media outlets lots of money to cover it... and hardly anybody who is actually interested in cars will care,
And yet there are three times as many posts on here about the one electric championship than there are about the whole of rallying!
It's the same on Autosport; each Formula E round get massive interest; and 3-4 pages of comments. You'll be lucky if there are a dozen comments on most WRC rounds. Motorsportforums is the only place were rallying gets decent interest.

Drumroll

1,160 posts

58 months

Wednesday 23rd January
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ArnageWRC said:
DelicaL400 said:
GravelBen said:
Formula E will pay a bunch of media outlets lots of money to cover it... and hardly anybody who is actually interested in cars will care,
And yet there are three times as many posts on here about the one electric championship than there are about the whole of rallying!
It's the same on Autosport; each Formula E round get massive interest; and 3-4 pages of comments. You'll be lucky if there are a dozen comments on most WRC rounds. Motorsportforums is the only place were rallying gets decent interest.
Firstly let me say I love rallying, but I think these posts highlights some of the problems rallying faces. This obviously makes sponsors wonder why they should "invest" in rallying. When did you last see a "rally car" in a dealer showroom? how often are competition cars used in car adverts now?

Even talking about rallying to a non rally person is difficult.
Well I went to a rally at the weekend in the Kielder forest, had a really good time with some mates. Some of the cars where rally on the edge as they went past us. It was a Fiesta that one the event by 30 seconds hardly riveting.


df76

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1,836 posts

216 months

Wednesday 23rd January
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ArnageWRC said:
DelicaL400 said:
GravelBen said:
Formula E will pay a bunch of media outlets lots of money to cover it... and hardly anybody who is actually interested in cars will care,
And yet there are three times as many posts on here about the one electric championship than there are about the whole of rallying!
It's the same on Autosport; each Formula E round get massive interest; and 3-4 pages of comments. You'll be lucky if there are a dozen comments on most WRC rounds. Motorsportforums is the only place were rallying gets decent interest.
Have you seen Motorsport News today??

ArnageWRC

926 posts

97 months

Wednesday 23rd January
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https://twitter.com/f1broadcasting

No news, as yet on a Free To Air TV deal.....they're leaving it late.
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Slippydiff

10,090 posts

161 months

Wednesday 23rd January
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Alex Langheck said:
Count me in for a GT based Tarmac series; the ERC isn't really doing it as a 2nd tier series. Imagine something like a Blancpain GT series, but for rallying.
Sounds awesome doesn’t It ?
Imagine the impact the M1 must have had on spectators back in ‘81-‘82 :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s6cspEuEBF0

(clearly the rally car was hamstrung by the FIA and made to run an air restrictor and far narrower wheels/tyres)

But fast forward 35+ years and it still looks and sounds incredible :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_vHL6_kvgtg

I’d pay good money to see 458’s, 991 Cup cars, Huracans etc being punted around the lanes of Ireland, Sicily, Corsica, mainland France, Madeira and even Wales if someone had the foresight to formulate a championship.

chunder27

1,463 posts

146 months

Wednesday 23rd January
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Oh dear, why do you think it might be that FE gets lots of coverage?

Same reason WRX did for a bit, huge PR budgets. AND all the manufacturers PR machines are pumping press out to publications routinely, you people do know how modern media works don't you?

WRC is tired, has been for decades, but it is better recently than it has been for years. It doesn't get the coverage it deserves in the UKI for obvious reasons, no major Brit talent or title challengers, its not hard to get it.

GravelBen

13,572 posts

168 months

Wednesday 23rd January
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ArnageWRC said:
DelicaL400 said:
GravelBen said:
Formula E will pay a bunch of media outlets lots of money to cover it... and hardly anybody who is actually interested in cars will care,
And yet there are three times as many posts on here about the one electric championship than there are about the whole of rallying!
It's the same on Autosport; each Formula E round get massive interest; and 3-4 pages of comments. You'll be lucky if there are a dozen comments on most WRC rounds. Motorsportforums is the only place were rallying gets decent interest.
Rallying discussion massively outweighs FE, touring cars and even F1 on Motorsportforums, pretty much the opposite of PH in that regard.

Another observation, obviously affected by who you associate with but my facebook newfeed is regularly full of posts about rallying, fairly often touring/GT cars, occasionally F1... and I don't think I've ever seen a single post about FE from my many petrolhead contacts. Its on free TV here in NZ, but nobody seems interested despite having a kiwi driver in the series.

Its an interesting difference in approach though with FE, paying for the media coverage compared to traditional promoters like WRC apparently trying to make a profit from selling TV rights etc. I keep expecting FE to fizzle out like A1GP etc, but its obviously doing enough to sustain itself and keep manufacturers involved so far.

Edited by GravelBen on Wednesday 23 January 22:32

GravelBen

13,572 posts

168 months

Wednesday 23rd January
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DelicaL400 said:
And yet there are three times as many posts on here about the one electric championship than there are about the whole of rallying!
Actually, having just checked...

The PH 2018 rallying thread (which is mostly WRC discussion) ran to 32 pages, the 2017-18 Formula E thread only made it to 5.

This thread is on 3 pages after 3 weeks of off-season before the first round has even started, the 2018-19 FE thread is on 7 pages after 2.5 months and a couple of rounds done.

So I reckon you're wrong on that comparison.

DelicaL400

241 posts

49 months

Wednesday 23rd January
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GravelBen said:
So I reckon you're wrong on that comparison.
I was looking at the threads for current championships.



GravelBen

13,572 posts

168 months

Thursday 24th January
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DelicaL400 said:
I was looking at the threads for current championships.
Sure, but as I said thats comparing a 3 week thread for a championship that hasn't even started yet with a 2.5 month thread for a championship thats had 2 rounds already.

The rally thread has more pages per week even without any competition happening yet, so I guess that means FE is less interesting to PHers than WRC pre-season testing.

confucuis

1,051 posts

62 months

Thursday 24th January
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To add to the posts above regarding Gt rally cars:

Delecour in an Aston Martin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkH_S6C1kdA

Rather viscous sound out of it!

Slippydiff

10,090 posts

161 months

Thursday 24th January
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confucuis said:
To add to the posts above regarding Gt rally cars:

Delecour in an Aston Martin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkH_S6C1kdA

Rather viscous sound out of it!
Fantastic sounding car !!


Meanwhile .... this is shaping up to be something rather special :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8ZOi45sq6w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYJIAY5yM2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C3iOAiCX6I


Edited by Slippydiff on Thursday 24th January 13:54

ewolg

1,517 posts

217 months

Thursday 24th January
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Searching Channel 5 for hoighlights but no joy. It did say BT sport was going to show all stages live in an article I read. That seems to be rubbish too.

Allyc85

6,784 posts

124 months

Thursday 24th January
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Bt Sport are showing ss1 and the powerstage on normal channels, but every stage is live on their red button service.

It would seem channel 5 are not showing highlights this year.

Stage 1 starts in 10 minutes, seems like there is a mix of conditions and tyre choices. Should be interesting!

df76

Original Poster:

1,836 posts

216 months

Thursday 24th January
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Red bull tv (free online) show highlights each night and a live stage on Saturday.

Slippydiff

10,090 posts

161 months

Thursday 24th January
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Allyc85 said:
Bt Sport are showing ss1 and the powerstage on normal channels, but every stage is live on their red button service.

It would seem channel 5 are not showing highlights this year.

Stage 1 starts in 10 minutes, seems like there is a mix of conditions and tyre choices. Should be interesting!
The pace is fearsome, Meeke hugely impressive, ditto Tanak, Ogier, Loeb and Neuville. If they can all stay in the road and avoid mechanical issues, it’ll be a titanic scrap for supremacy.

bonesxu1

263 posts

125 months

Thursday 24th January
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Any tips on how to watch the WRC since channel 5 aren't showing footage and I don't want to start paying BT sport as Sky is expensive enough. I'm not looking to watch it live, daily highlights would be good or just a program like there use to be.

Allyc85

6,784 posts

124 months

Thursday 24th January
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Search for Red Bull TV WRC and you will find their daily highlights online smile

Cracking start for Meeke and Tanak, the latter absolutely wringing it's neck and very sideways in places!

It seems WRC+ has gone into meltdown..


Slippydiff

10,090 posts

161 months

Thursday 24th January
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Allyc85 said:
Search for Red Bull TV WRC and you will find their daily highlights online smile

Cracking start for Meeke and Tanak, the latter absolutely wringing it's neck and very sideways in places!

It seems WRC+ has gone into meltdown..
Meeke’s brakes at the end of the first stage yikesyikesyikes
The commitment of the top 8 is truly staggering bearing in mind ii’s dark, cold and some of them only have one competitive stage under their belts in new cars.
Stage 2 dry and massively quick.