2019 UK Targa/Road Rallying Thread
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A new thread for the year.
This weekend sees the running of the Primrose road rally in the lanes of south Devon.
I am guesting as driver in a Saxo as the normal and back-up drivers are unavailable. Will be my first proper road rally as I have up to now only done 12 Cars and 20/20's, mainly as navigator.
Have also entered our Suzuki Swift in the Bramley Targa in March, this time we hope to be able to get there, hoping it doesn't snow.
Lots of local 12 Cars scheduled for Friday nights, hope to get out on most of them.
Looks like it will be a busy year.
This weekend sees the running of the Primrose road rally in the lanes of south Devon.
I am guesting as driver in a Saxo as the normal and back-up drivers are unavailable. Will be my first proper road rally as I have up to now only done 12 Cars and 20/20's, mainly as navigator.
Have also entered our Suzuki Swift in the Bramley Targa in March, this time we hope to be able to get there, hoping it doesn't snow.
Lots of local 12 Cars scheduled for Friday nights, hope to get out on most of them.
Looks like it will be a busy year.
Hi Paul - see you tomorrow night for the "Battle of the Suzukis" on the Rapscallion 12 Car.
I'm very lucky to have Glynn navigating for me on this one.
I've also entered Bramley, after that (and maybe some more 12-cars) I'm hoping to do the Berwick Classic, which is a multi-venue Targa run alongside the Historic Road Rally (i.e. tests and regularities) over 2 days.
cheers, Duncan
I'm very lucky to have Glynn navigating for me on this one.
I've also entered Bramley, after that (and maybe some more 12-cars) I'm hoping to do the Berwick Classic, which is a multi-venue Targa run alongside the Historic Road Rally (i.e. tests and regularities) over 2 days.
cheers, Duncan
The targa season doesn't really get going for us until June.
Got an entry on the Ilkley Jubilee run in April but that is an HRCR round with the run added on, less tricky navigation but still with regularity and tests.
Been doing some autotest organising, ran one last month at York motor club. Junior ended up winning outright.
Had one entry drive up from Stoke on Trent, the couple seemed to really enjoy it and didn't stop laughing, they entered in class 5 so swapped seats and did pretty well considering they had never done an autotest before. 
Their Clio 182 usually used on track days set one fastest test time on the 9 tests.
A video of one of the tests. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n7GkFn5OJg
'cos Junior won he has to organise, but has sub contracted to dad........that'll be me organising two months in a row then!
Oh and we have a York motorclub autotest taster event 28th April and I'm organising that as well.
Will be nice to just to get back into just entering and driving the trumpet. Ilkley targa 2nd June will be the first targa for us this year.
Got an entry on the Ilkley Jubilee run in April but that is an HRCR round with the run added on, less tricky navigation but still with regularity and tests.
Been doing some autotest organising, ran one last month at York motor club. Junior ended up winning outright.
Had one entry drive up from Stoke on Trent, the couple seemed to really enjoy it and didn't stop laughing, they entered in class 5 so swapped seats and did pretty well considering they had never done an autotest before. Their Clio 182 usually used on track days set one fastest test time on the 9 tests.A video of one of the tests. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n7GkFn5OJg
'cos Junior won he has to organise, but has sub contracted to dad........that'll be me organising two months in a row then!
Oh and we have a York motorclub autotest taster event 28th April and I'm organising that as well.
Will be nice to just to get back into just entering and driving the trumpet. Ilkley targa 2nd June will be the first targa for us this year.
My season's already kicked off.
First was an Ilkley and District 12 Car in January, which I was organiser on, went pretty well with a full entry.
Marshaled on the Ryemoor trophy night rally as the car wasn't finished.
A brief but sadly too short run on the excellent Bagger rally in the south west. We went OTL at first Petrol along (about 80 miles in) with about 50 others!. 54 retirements out 75 starters......
A Scatter on the 20th February, which I did with my Brother in his freshly rebuilt Corsa B, came 4th out of 16 having spent 10 minutes changing a wheel at the side of the A59. Pretty pleased with that as we would have probably been second without the puncture.
John Robson Road Rally on the night of the 23rd, first night Rally I've manged to finish on for what seems like an age!. First proper test of the new Corsa too. I cocked up and missed two route checks so a poor result, but a thoroughly enjoyable event.
Tour of Cheshire Historic on Saturday 2nd, first of the HRCR championship, in the Porsche 356. Excellent but tricky event and a decent result considering the strength of competition at 19th overall a pot for 2nd in class too.
Next up is another 12 car on the 20th march and then York's, North Yorkshire Classic on the 20th and 21st. Two days including an evening section in the dark.
Certainly plenty of club motorsport to compete in if you have the time inclination and a modest budget.
First was an Ilkley and District 12 Car in January, which I was organiser on, went pretty well with a full entry.
Marshaled on the Ryemoor trophy night rally as the car wasn't finished.
A brief but sadly too short run on the excellent Bagger rally in the south west. We went OTL at first Petrol along (about 80 miles in) with about 50 others!. 54 retirements out 75 starters......
A Scatter on the 20th February, which I did with my Brother in his freshly rebuilt Corsa B, came 4th out of 16 having spent 10 minutes changing a wheel at the side of the A59. Pretty pleased with that as we would have probably been second without the puncture.
John Robson Road Rally on the night of the 23rd, first night Rally I've manged to finish on for what seems like an age!. First proper test of the new Corsa too. I cocked up and missed two route checks so a poor result, but a thoroughly enjoyable event.
Tour of Cheshire Historic on Saturday 2nd, first of the HRCR championship, in the Porsche 356. Excellent but tricky event and a decent result considering the strength of competition at 19th overall a pot for 2nd in class too.
Next up is another 12 car on the 20th march and then York's, North Yorkshire Classic on the 20th and 21st. Two days including an evening section in the dark.
Certainly plenty of club motorsport to compete in if you have the time inclination and a modest budget.
First event of the year for us was last weekend on the tour of Cheshire. This is only the 4th regularity rally we have done, but second year of doing these with the mini so we thought we'd best start to make a proper effort on concentrating on the timing rather than just the route.
We had a good run, but majorly cocked up and didn't fill up before the first tests so had to go and grab some fuel before the first of the oulton tests and ended up being too late to do the first of the oulton tests before coffee! So 2 maximums there, which was annoying after setting 5th best time on the last of the bolesworth tests. Happy with that from a seeding portion of 77th and after being held up by the car in front!
We finished 2nd in class (I think we may have won our class as when I add up our penalties I get a different total to that shown on the overall results!) and 51st o/a which with the missed tests and one secret check missed is ok.
Next for us is likely jubilee, but I may look at an entry on the North Yorkshire classic. Also my local motor club has started up a 12car championship so we'll have a look at that as well.
We had a good run, but majorly cocked up and didn't fill up before the first tests so had to go and grab some fuel before the first of the oulton tests and ended up being too late to do the first of the oulton tests before coffee! So 2 maximums there, which was annoying after setting 5th best time on the last of the bolesworth tests. Happy with that from a seeding portion of 77th and after being held up by the car in front!
We finished 2nd in class (I think we may have won our class as when I add up our penalties I get a different total to that shown on the overall results!) and 51st o/a which with the missed tests and one secret check missed is ok.
Next for us is likely jubilee, but I may look at an entry on the North Yorkshire classic. Also my local motor club has started up a 12car championship so we'll have a look at that as well.
Next event for me, next weekend, is the Bramley Targa Rally - Farnborough & DMC's single venue Targa Rally (tests only).
I'm driving the Suzuki Ignis.
They are looking for marshals if anyone would like to volunteer:
http://fdmc.org.uk/marshal?fbclid=IwAR3tfzgrIOyBX5...
Then, I think I'll be volunteering one way or another on the Clacton Stage Rally (28 April) and hoping to compete on the Berwick Classic in the Targa Class. Either driving my Ignis or navigating my pal in a Mini Cooper. If I'm navigating, it'll be my first go at regularities!
And behind the scenes, working on "Mull Rally Stuff"
cheers, Duncan
I'm driving the Suzuki Ignis.
They are looking for marshals if anyone would like to volunteer:
http://fdmc.org.uk/marshal?fbclid=IwAR3tfzgrIOyBX5...
Then, I think I'll be volunteering one way or another on the Clacton Stage Rally (28 April) and hoping to compete on the Berwick Classic in the Targa Class. Either driving my Ignis or navigating my pal in a Mini Cooper. If I'm navigating, it'll be my first go at regularities!
And behind the scenes, working on "Mull Rally Stuff"
cheers, Duncan
velocemitch said:
On the results totals, I think the system still shows the 'joker', ie the dropped score for the worst lateness at an IRTC. Did you miss the black spot handed out as an amendment?. A number of very very good crews missed that!.
I'm pretty sure we did, we only got one missed check point which was on reg C and we couldn't quite get that to plot right in the middle section of the reg.The points i have totaled up a few other cars from the 2 morning details and the 2 afternoon detals sheets and then removed their joker and i get the same number as that shown on the overall results, but when i do it with ours i get a total that is 300points higher.
I have emailed them on Monday but had no response, im not after then changing the results or anything just an acknowledgement that im either wrong and why, or that they made a error.
I've only just spotted this thread.
We've had a pretty good but slightly mixed start to the season with 3 events down already (plus a 12 car)
Event 1: Bagger Road Rally - January - 2nd O/A
Some entry, 75 cars, of which I think there were 50 odd experts entered with us seeded at 21.
We had a fairly trying night, with some months out of the car I managed to miss a PC fairly early and made a few navigational errors.
However knowing the relentless nature of the event we bashed on pushing the car hard and halfway through the event heard from one of the marshals we were lying 2nd. Kept it quick but steady in the final 3rd and came home comfortably in 2nd place.
Probably out best ever result considering the quality of the entry, absolutely battered the car but made it round.
The pace at the front of events like that is incredible, 3 non-stop sections of approx. 65 miles each was nuts, I think the longest we ever had to wait at a time control was about 10-15seconds!
If you ever want to experience what the Motoring News style Road rally is like I highly recommend the lunacy that is the Bagger (fingers crossed it runs again next year!)
Event 2: Primrose Road Rally (Devon) - Feb - 1st O/A
It was good to get out in the car again only two weeks after the first event, a new front end on the old girl after an argument with a bank on the Bagger and we were good to go again.
The first half was fairly relaxed around my old stomping ground west of the River Exe aside from one regularity section which was tight.
The second half was a different affair and with one PC and time control to go we were 13 seconds behind the leaders. (we wrong slotted in the tightest regularity section, d'oh!)
Fortunately for us, the leaders missed the last PC and dropped 5 mins, and we came home with an unbent car and another win in the bag, our first for a couple of years.
Event 3: The Bath Festival - March - DNF
Seeded at car 4, someone had clearly never seen our lack of ability on tests!
On test 4 the engine room relay lid came open and the fuel relay jumped out leaving us stopped. After fixing the car and taking a test maximum we made it into Test 5 in Longleat and half a mile after the start the same thing happened and we decided to call it a night rather than beat the car up. The tests were good but the car ride height was a bit low for the surface meaning it was a little unpredicatable handling. Great on tarmac but not so good dragging the rear in fairly rough woods.
No idea what's up next, but it would be nice to do a few more road rallies while we're on reasonable form and can remember how to do them!
We've had a pretty good but slightly mixed start to the season with 3 events down already (plus a 12 car)
Event 1: Bagger Road Rally - January - 2nd O/A
Some entry, 75 cars, of which I think there were 50 odd experts entered with us seeded at 21.
We had a fairly trying night, with some months out of the car I managed to miss a PC fairly early and made a few navigational errors.
However knowing the relentless nature of the event we bashed on pushing the car hard and halfway through the event heard from one of the marshals we were lying 2nd. Kept it quick but steady in the final 3rd and came home comfortably in 2nd place.
Probably out best ever result considering the quality of the entry, absolutely battered the car but made it round.
The pace at the front of events like that is incredible, 3 non-stop sections of approx. 65 miles each was nuts, I think the longest we ever had to wait at a time control was about 10-15seconds!
If you ever want to experience what the Motoring News style Road rally is like I highly recommend the lunacy that is the Bagger (fingers crossed it runs again next year!)
Event 2: Primrose Road Rally (Devon) - Feb - 1st O/A
It was good to get out in the car again only two weeks after the first event, a new front end on the old girl after an argument with a bank on the Bagger and we were good to go again.
The first half was fairly relaxed around my old stomping ground west of the River Exe aside from one regularity section which was tight.
The second half was a different affair and with one PC and time control to go we were 13 seconds behind the leaders. (we wrong slotted in the tightest regularity section, d'oh!)
Fortunately for us, the leaders missed the last PC and dropped 5 mins, and we came home with an unbent car and another win in the bag, our first for a couple of years.
Event 3: The Bath Festival - March - DNF
Seeded at car 4, someone had clearly never seen our lack of ability on tests!
On test 4 the engine room relay lid came open and the fuel relay jumped out leaving us stopped. After fixing the car and taking a test maximum we made it into Test 5 in Longleat and half a mile after the start the same thing happened and we decided to call it a night rather than beat the car up. The tests were good but the car ride height was a bit low for the surface meaning it was a little unpredicatable handling. Great on tarmac but not so good dragging the rear in fairly rough woods.
No idea what's up next, but it would be nice to do a few more road rallies while we're on reasonable form and can remember how to do them!
What an excellent day at the Bramley Targa, no snow this year but a large variety of grip and road conditions to challenge the 50 crews.
I think have a low powered, nimble car was an advantage yesterday. I double entered the Ignis with Mo Farid on his first Targa and first go driving at anything.
Me driving - we were 11th overall and 1st in the NA class (novices less than 1400cc) and just winning the unofficial PH Suzuki class (mainly because PaulV hit one more cone than me!).
Mo driving - 32nd overall and 6th in class. I thought that was outstanding on his first event, especially as I misdirected him on one test, causing a 20 sec penalty.
I’ll get some photos up when I can.
Next event probably the Berwick Classic in May.
Cheers, Duncan
I think have a low powered, nimble car was an advantage yesterday. I double entered the Ignis with Mo Farid on his first Targa and first go driving at anything.
Me driving - we were 11th overall and 1st in the NA class (novices less than 1400cc) and just winning the unofficial PH Suzuki class (mainly because PaulV hit one more cone than me!).
Mo driving - 32nd overall and 6th in class. I thought that was outstanding on his first event, especially as I misdirected him on one test, causing a 20 sec penalty.
I’ll get some photos up when I can.
Next event probably the Berwick Classic in May.
Cheers, Duncan
Was excellent fun at Bramley.
I was trying too hard for the first couple of tests, then it started to come together.
2nd in Novice over 1400 (16 o/a) was an unexpected surprise, seeing as we had a slight navigational error on two tests.
My fault though as I messed up the directions when in the other seat and we didn't notice until too late.
A great event and well organised.
I was trying too hard for the first couple of tests, then it started to come together.
2nd in Novice over 1400 (16 o/a) was an unexpected surprise, seeing as we had a slight navigational error on two tests.
My fault though as I messed up the directions when in the other seat and we didn't notice until too late.
A great event and well organised.
Pretty full entry on the Ilkley jubilee rally this Sunday, an HRCR round with a run for those who don't want the harder navigation.
Even the run is pretty intense compared to targas, make a mistake or two on the many regularities and it doesn't matter how fast you go on the tests.
Ilkley targa coming up 2nd June so might have to miss another of our favourite targas run by South of Scotland car club on 26th May.
The nav has exams looming so two weekends on the trot are a bit of no no, never mind the fact that the car is fighting me every step of the way on the repair and maintenance front.
Wingo.
Even the run is pretty intense compared to targas, make a mistake or two on the many regularities and it doesn't matter how fast you go on the tests.
Ilkley targa coming up 2nd June so might have to miss another of our favourite targas run by South of Scotland car club on 26th May.
The nav has exams looming so two weekends on the trot are a bit of no no, never mind the fact that the car is fighting me every step of the way on the repair and maintenance front.
Wingo.
Next rally for me - the Berwick Classic (in the Targa Class)
https://www.berwickclassicrally.co.uk/
This must be one of the biggest road rallies around, 83 cars - 2 days - 170 miles - should be a cracker.
I'm lucky to be invited to drive my pal Gerry's Mini Cooper (modern version) while he gets to struggle with the Regularity and Navigation.
https://www.berwickclassicrally.co.uk/
This must be one of the biggest road rallies around, 83 cars - 2 days - 170 miles - should be a cracker.
I'm lucky to be invited to drive my pal Gerry's Mini Cooper (modern version) while he gets to struggle with the Regularity and Navigation.
We had a blast on the Berwick Classic (Targa Class) - 198 miles over 2 days, 19 tests and 3 regularities.
We didn't get a very good result due to reasons I'll not explore here, but were happy with 4th and 6th quickest on a couple of tests. A huge amount of learning done and more to do in order to make us proper competitive. But we really enjoyed it which is the main thing. Nowhere else can you go flat out on a speedway track!
Here's a great Frank Love photo from one of the many tattie farms:
We didn't get a very good result due to reasons I'll not explore here, but were happy with 4th and 6th quickest on a couple of tests. A huge amount of learning done and more to do in order to make us proper competitive. But we really enjoyed it which is the main thing. Nowhere else can you go flat out on a speedway track!
Here's a great Frank Love photo from one of the many tattie farms:
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