BTCC Brands Hatch GP (12 - 13 October)

BTCC Brands Hatch GP (12 - 13 October)

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Sebring440

Original Poster:

1,989 posts

96 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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Sammo123 said:
I’ve heard it’s pretty much a done deal that BMR are taking over Laser Tools Racing and running two Infiniti’s with Ash Sutton and Aidan Moffat for 2020.
You've heard wrong!



DanielSan

18,773 posts

167 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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It seems there was a simple reason for Cammish's brake failure, someone may have left a cover in the brake ducts from the wetter conditions early on, apparently.

Sebring440

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1,989 posts

96 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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DanielSan said:
It seems there was a simple reason for Cammish's brake failure, someone may have left a cover in the brake ducts from the wetter conditions early on, apparently.
That makes sense. The commentators were commenting that his front brake discs were glowing red, and they felt that there was something amiss.

Kraken

1,710 posts

200 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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Sammo123 said:
I’ve heard it’s pretty much a done deal that BMR are taking over Laser Tools Racing and running two Infiniti’s with Ash Sutton and Aidan Moffat for 2020.
If there was any taking over going on I would be pretty sure it would be the other way around...

Sebring440

Original Poster:

1,989 posts

96 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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Kraken said:
Sammo123 said:
I’ve heard it’s pretty much a done deal that BMR are taking over Laser Tools Racing and running two Infiniti’s with Ash Sutton and Aidan Moffat for 2020.
If there was any taking over going on I would be pretty sure it would be the other way around...
Yup!


Robmarriott

2,638 posts

158 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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DanielSan said:
It seems there was a simple reason for Cammish's brake failure, someone may have left a cover in the brake ducts from the wetter conditions early on, apparently.
Oof. Imagine being they guy this morning.

Saleen836

11,101 posts

209 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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Sebring440 said:
DanielSan said:
It seems there was a simple reason for Cammish's brake failure, someone may have left a cover in the brake ducts from the wetter conditions early on, apparently.
That makes sense. The commentators were commenting that his front brake discs were glowing red, and they felt that there was something amiss.
I thought I heard them mention his left foot braking being the cause of his always glowing brakes?

The Wookie

13,931 posts

228 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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Saleen836 said:
I thought I heard them mention his left foot braking being the cause of his always glowing brakes?
A lot of us double pedal it to lock the diff in certain circumstances, I was in Race 3, but Brands GP isn’t a hard circuit on brakes in my experience

Oulton is usually the biggest problem for everyone, and a few other tracks can be on the limit depending on conditions

I should highlight that I am conflicted as I work for a rival brake manufacturer

Robmarriott

2,638 posts

158 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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The Wookie said:
A lot of us double pedal it to lock the diff in certain circumstances, I was in Race 3, but Brands GP isn’t a hard circuit on brakes in my experience

Oulton is usually the biggest problem for everyone, and a few other tracks can be on the limit depending on conditions

I should highlight that I am conflicted as I work for a rival brake manufacturer
Are the brakes no longer a control part then?

The Wookie

13,931 posts

228 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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Robmarriott said:
Are the brakes no longer a control part then?
They still are, unfortunately they aren’t ours!!

DanielSan

18,773 posts

167 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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Saleen836 said:
I thought I heard them mention his left foot braking being the cause of his always glowing brakes?
Sutton and Jordan are 2 of the hardest brakers on the grid among even among the quickest guys and their brakes weren't close to glowing like Cammish's were.

Kraken

1,710 posts

200 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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DanielSan said:
Sutton and Jordan are 2 of the hardest brakers on the grid among even among the quickest guys and their brakes weren't close to glowing like Cammish's were.
Two other left foot brakers as well.

Save Ferris

2,685 posts

213 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Ingram's were glowing in Race 2, I presumed he was trying to get heat into the slicks he was on?

littlepaul

218 posts

129 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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https://www.touringcars.net/2019/10/dan-cammish-ex...

Some excuses in there from cammish and why shouldn’t anyone in a racing position let anyone through

stevemcs

8,653 posts

93 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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He was blaming the Wookie when interviewed on ITV, maybe he should have had his team mate with him, i'm sure he could have moved others out of the way. The brakes on his car were glowing red all race.

Turbojuice

601 posts

89 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Well both Wookie and Cammish are ph'ers so lets see what they have to say about it on here biggrin

Dan blaming Wookie is utter ste though. Very ungracious of him.

stevemcs

8,653 posts

93 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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In fairness in the ITV interview it didn't come across like it does in that article and i guess if you had been so close to wining the championship you wouldn't be in the best frame of mind having a TV camera shoved in your face.

Turbojuice

601 posts

89 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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stevemcs said:
In fairness in the ITV interview it didn't come across like it does in that article and i guess if you had been so close to wining the championship you wouldn't be in the best frame of mind having a TV camera shoved in your face.
Very true but still amazed that he half expected Wookie to just move out of the way. Kind of reminiscent of Alonso in 2010 at Abu Dhabi.

The Wookie

13,931 posts

228 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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The individual results that high up in a weekend mean a lot to me and to my guys in what has been a difficult year. Plus BTCC is massively unpredictable, you never know what might turn into an independents win or even a podium.

Turks’ engineer came and shook my hand afterwards and thanked me for a clean and fair race which I really appreciated. That’s what I do my best to give, particularly to the guys who race fairly with me.

I think that’s all I can say really!

stevemcs

8,653 posts

93 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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The Wookie said:
Turks’ engineer came and shook my hand afterwards and thanked me for a clean and fair race which I really appreciated. That’s what I do my best to give, particularly to the guys who race fairly with me.

I think that’s all I can say really!
That's the thing with Turkington, he seems to wait and make a fair move, it looked like in race 3 he caught you at druids and just gave you a nudge, rather than take advantage he held back and had another go later, i'm sure not many others on the grid one have done that. Considering the speeds and the differences between cars to drive at what looks like less than 500mm apart accelerating and braking without hitting each other takes some doing.

Oh and its nice to see Turks's engineer has the same principles as his driver.