2020 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and national rally)

2020 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and national rally)

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Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

194 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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mike80 said:
I presume you know it's been postponed til October?

I love Ypres, I've been to the rally for the past 3 years, pretty gutted not to be going this year!
I do smile

Getting back onto rallying content, it’s a shame Haydn Paddon had something in place this year only for Covid to ruin it - the livery he was planning on running looked amazing!

Neuville also looks like he had an exciting opening test...

Edited by Skylinecrazy on Wednesday 10th June 14:50

Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

194 months

mike80

2,248 posts

216 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Skylinecrazy said:
do smile [/footnote]
Phew smile

It will be interesting to see what it is like then, I'm used to the blazing heat of the end of June. If I'm free and the travel restrictions aren't too draconian I might go over anyway.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

186 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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Tanak testing more aero tat in Finland.

https://youtu.be/Qozxr2O7JKo

Allyc85

7,225 posts

186 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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Finally put together my video from last years amazing visit to Sardinia!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tow4o2v_ITs&t=...

Slippydiff

14,814 posts

223 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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Allyc85 said:
Tanak testing more aero tat in Finland.

https://youtu.be/Qozxr2O7JKo
Great filum ... thumbup

on the Jurassic Coast when viewed on my iPhone hehe

Drumroll

3,755 posts

120 months

df76

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3,627 posts

278 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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At a national level I'd only be expecting a few rally sprints to take place this year / first half of 2021. It's depressing but I can't see how anything else can happen.

ArnageWRC

2,063 posts

159 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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df76 said:
At a national level I'd only be expecting a few rally sprints to take place this year / first half of 2021. It's depressing but I can't see how anything else can happen.
To be honest, I was hoping for that - but I think that's maybe wishful thinking. I suggested something similar over on the British Rally forum, and it seems like it's not viable.

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

46 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Can someone explain to m e why an event at an old airfield say, closed to the public, could not be held, yet a company like MSV has said they can hold events at their tracks open to the public with obvious precautions, and something liek Silverstone museum can open?

Is it the co driver sitting next to the driver that's the problem? Fairly daft when you think 80% of the time he is wearing the equivalent of PPE!!

Drumroll

3,755 posts

120 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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LukeBrown66 said:
Can someone explain to m e why an event at an old airfield say, closed to the public, could not be held, yet a company like MSV has said they can hold events at their tracks open to the public with obvious precautions, and something liek Silverstone museum can open?

Is it the co driver sitting next to the driver that's the problem? Fairly daft when you think 80% of the time he is wearing the equivalent of PPE!!
The big hurdle is currently you can't have 2 people in a competing car. Added to that, currently rallies use time cards (issues with handling them) Whilst race meetings use responders. (some race meetings will be run with one timekeeper at the circuit and the rest remotely.)

velocemitch

3,808 posts

220 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Drumroll said:
LukeBrown66 said:
Can someone explain to m e why an event at an old airfield say, closed to the public, could not be held, yet a company like MSV has said they can hold events at their tracks open to the public with obvious precautions, and something liek Silverstone museum can open?

Is it the co driver sitting next to the driver that's the problem? Fairly daft when you think 80% of the time he is wearing the equivalent of PPE!!
The big hurdle is currently you can't have 2 people in a competing car. Added to that, currently rallies use time cards (issues with handling them) Whilst race meetings use responders. (some race meetings will be run with one timekeeper at the circuit and the rest remotely.)
Yes agreed the big hurdle is the 2 in a car problem.
Another one though is MSUK are currently insisting every marshal is signed on remotely about a week before the event, they need to have a full register of people, contacts for family members etc and they also need to have diagrams of exactly who is positioned where. A nightmare for a multi venue rally.
Added to that is the PR issue, on any rally all householders on the public roads need to be informed by letter of the passing of a rally, some need a personal visit. This is very difficult and not very PR friendly with the current Covid climate. ( it’s currently not allowed in certain areas I was told by someone close to the rallies committee)

ArnageWRC

2,063 posts

159 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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A 'proper' multi stage event seems 'no go' at the moment - so a single venue event/circuit based Rally TimeTrial/ Rallysprint is surely at least possible? Only one person in the car, one venue, one set of officials/marshals, etc Treat it like a race meeting, it's got to be worth looking at. The worst outcome for the sport is just cancelling every event; a nightmare scenario for the sport.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

186 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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There are a couple rally sprints planned at the moment, one at Sweet Lamb and another at a rally experience school I believe.

velocemitch

3,808 posts

220 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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The devils lockdown tests happening tomorrow ( yes Monday) is a sort of mini version of the rally sprint idea. Single venue, well contained no spectators. But drivers only, no navigators.
Uses Rowrah Kart circuit in Cumbria.
Has a good entry of historic road rally cars. They filled the entry withIn four minutes of opening on line and have about 25 reserves!.


ArnageWRC

2,063 posts

159 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Allyc85 said:
There are a couple rally sprints planned at the moment, one at Sweet Lamb and another at a rally experience school I believe.
Yes, I saw that - one wishes them well, lets hope they get a decent entry; having spectated on the Sweetlamb version quite a few times, it's a good event.

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

46 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Oddly rally sprint type events have always been popular in places like Scandinavia and to some extent Benelux, but it seems in Central Europe they still use nav, whereas in Scandy they tend to car share, so you can often see the same car with several numbers on it but only one driver.

A brilliant idea and something that for some reason never catches on here with rally sprints. Probably due to cost. Land costs the same whatever you are doing on it.

Drumroll

3,755 posts

120 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Uk rallying finally allowed to start again. not sure how many events will take place this year though.

velocemitch

3,808 posts

220 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Drumroll said:
Uk rallying finally allowed to start again. not sure how many events will take place this year though.
Still to follow guidelines about vehicle occupancy though, so until that is changed by the government in the appropriate country it will still be unworkable.
Hopefully that change will come by the time the events actually happen.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

186 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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I thought the vehicle occupancy issue had been resolved, hence why rallying will be able to go ahead?

I was bemused to read on Dirtfish that they want to use events, where it would be hard for spectators to attend, yet the Wyedean might run in the Btrda. That's the easiest gravel rally to stage hop!