Circuit Manager Job at Donington

Circuit Manager Job at Donington

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407 posts

212 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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Sure it will be a lot of work but could be an interesting job

https://www.msv.com/jobs/210129-dp-circuit-manager...

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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"Core working hours are 8.30 - 18.00 in the week but in reality the hours are driven by the event calendar. You must be flexible and able to work weekends and Bank Holidays, especially during the race season (typically March to October) along with early starts and late finishes where necessary.

Academic achievements are valued by us and we will be looking for strong results at some or ideally all of GCSEs, A levels, degree or equivalent."

7 days a week 8 months of the year.

And I'd you got a degree, but no GCSEs or a levels, well done, but you're not for them.

Truckosaurus

11,249 posts

284 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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No mention of salary either.

Also, I know MSV is not the world's largest organisation but is there no-one in house that is either capable or willing to take a promotion?

Nampahc Niloc

910 posts

78 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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Truckosaurus said:
No mention of salary either.

Also, I know MSV is not the world's largest organisation but is there no-one in house that is either capable or willing to take a promotion?
There might well be, but it never hurts to advertise further.

LucyP

1,698 posts

59 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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It also widens your pool of candidates and avoids discrimination claims if you advertise externally.

It won't be easy to find a suitable person. The pay for these kind of jobs is never amazing and they are asking for a lot of skills, (businessman, marketing man, accountant, planner, facilities manager, green-keeper, civil engineer) weekend and Bank holiday working. That is a a big ask.

The big meetings such as WSB, BTCC and BSB will be very stressful too. There will be a lot of ground to be made up, given all the cancellations and losses of last year, probably continuing into this year.

"You must have a good commercial awareness and be able to make informed decisions and reasoned recommendations for revenue generating opportunities.

Event budgets and returns will be your responsibility so strong IT skills are a must have, especially Excel.

Building and developing effective relationships is critical to success. This includes within MSV and externally with a variety of organisations.

Motorsport experience is a great asset but is not essential. Experience of managing large public venues or events, maintenance of extensive grounds and facilities, and undertaking civil engineering projects would each be an advantage.

Core working hours are 8.30 - 18.00 in the week but in reality the hours are driven by the event calendar. You must be flexible and able to work weekends and Bank Holidays, especially during the race season (typically March to October) along with early starts and late finishes where necessary."

ginettajoe

2,106 posts

218 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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Truckosaurus said:
No mention of salary either.

Also, I know MSV is not the world's largest organisation but is there no-one in house that is either capable or willing to take a promotion?
My guess is they will be offering £35k per year, because a few years ago they were offering a similar position at Oulton Park, identical job description, and the salary was £25k per year, when in my opinion, a manager's job within a "normal" organisation would have paid £50 - £75K.

FNG

4,168 posts

224 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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That’s ridiculous for that sort of range of competencies, experience and responsibility, let alone a 50 hour basic week with the extra hours expected on top.

I’ll go out on a limb and surmise that weekends and bank holidays won’t attract overtime, and wonder if the lucky winning applicant will effectively be working for any more than minimum wage?

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

46 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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Main stipulation of the job would of course be.

"look after the grass"
"mowing extremely important"
"make as much revenue as you can from people touching grass"

Look for Qualcast and Flymo as circuit sponsors.

Seriously, not a job anyone would want surely, not for that sort of money if true. But I guess the sort of person that applies is perhaps the sort of person that would not really care.

RedAndy

1,224 posts

154 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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...as long as the first task is to re-acquire the dunlop bridge and erect it over the track just after Coppice...

Wh00sher

1,589 posts

218 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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ginettajoe said:
My guess is they will be offering £35k per year, because a few years ago they were offering a similar position at Oulton Park, identical job description, and the salary was £25k per year
That`s shockingly low for the level of responsibility and hours they expect you to work eek


DanielSan

18,773 posts

167 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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Wh00sher said:
That`s shockingly low for the level of responsibility and hours they expect you to work eek
I always wonder with these jobs if they advertise a low salary to get the truly passionate staff but there's also an easy to achieve 'bonus'

selnic

466 posts

267 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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A friend of mine was the circuit manager at Donington up until he died about fifteen years ago. He absolutely loved the job and lived for it mostly... one of the things I remember most was the amount of hours he worked, there was always something going on, be it track days, Moto GP or just the day to day running of the business. In the summer think nothing of 7:00 am to sometimes 9:00 pm. It wasn’t a job more of a vocation.

ginettajoe

2,106 posts

218 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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selnic said:
A friend of mine was the circuit manager at Donington up until he died about fifteen years ago. He absolutely loved the job and lived for it mostly... one of the things I remember most was the amount of hours he worked, there was always something going on, be it track days, Moto GP or just the day to day running of the business. In the summer think nothing of 7:00 am to sometimes 9:00 pm. It wasn’t a job more of a vocation.
I worked at Donington quite regularly at that time, and spent many hours chatting with Vaughan, and Frank (the Flag), who I still exchange Christmas cards with.

As you say, Vaughan had Donington running through his veins, but the requirements for a manager now, I think will far exceed what was expected of him at that time. The difference is Palmer, and he wants the most, for the least money! Good luck, you can't take it away from him, looking at how everything is presented at all the MSV circuits, his formula works! It would be interesting what the salary will be, but I remember thinking "i wouldn't get out of bed" for what was on offer at Oulton Park.

n3il123

2,606 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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A quick google shows that the circuit managers at the other msv circuits have all been doing it for a decent time (especially brands and snetterton) so there must be something in it.

FNG

4,168 posts

224 months

Friday 12th February 2021
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I suppose if every owner of every van or stall selling t-shirts, burgers or baked spuds was encouraged to make a contribution in a brown envelope, the money might just about be worth devoting your every waking hour to the job. Can't think how else it could be justified!

ginettajoe

2,106 posts

218 months

Friday 12th February 2021
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FNG said:
I suppose if every owner of every van or stall selling t-shirts, burgers or baked spuds was encouraged to make a contribution in a brown envelope, the money might just about be worth devoting your every waking hour to the job. Can't think how else it could be justified!
...... I'm certain Mr Palmer will have "Brown envelope spotter drones" flying overhead!! roflroflrofl

Drumroll

3,754 posts

120 months

Friday 12th February 2021
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ginettajoe said:
...... I'm certain Mr Palmer will have "Brown envelope spotter drones" flying overhead!! roflroflrofl
That are specifically programmed not to land on the grass.

M22s

559 posts

149 months

Saturday 13th February 2021
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n3il123 said:
A quick google shows that the circuit managers at the other msv circuits have all been doing it for a decent time (especially brands and snetterton) so there must be something in it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this kind of position attracts people who love the sport rather than events management and money.

ginettajoe

2,106 posts

218 months

Sunday 14th February 2021
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Drumroll said:
ginettajoe said:
...... I'm certain Mr Palmer will have "Brown envelope spotter drones" flying overhead!! roflroflrofl
That are specifically programmed not to land on the grass.
......... punishable by hanging if someone does!! rolleyes

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Sunday 14th February 2021
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DanielSan said:
Wh00sher said:
That`s shockingly low for the level of responsibility and hours they expect you to work eek
I always wonder with these jobs if they advertise a low salary to get the truly passionate staff but there's also an easy to achieve 'bonus'
doubtful.

As said the kind of person they're looking for is someone who'd bite their arm off and practically do it for free if they could, not a career so much as a calling, and as they'll devote every waking moment to the job they don't need much money anyway.