2025: BTCC chat & discussion

2025: BTCC chat & discussion

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freedman

5,959 posts

221 months

Thursday 7th November 2024
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Sebring440 said:
"all cars must cease weaving, braking and/or accelerating and stay no more than two car lengths from the car ahead of them."

I wonder how they will police this. Two car lengths? What would the penalty be for being two and a half car lengths back? And who would decide/report this? How can they accurately measure car lengths?
It is better explained in full

When the Safety Car lights are turned off – indicating it will accelerate away from the pack and return to the pit-lane – all cars must cease weaving, braking and/or accelerating and stay no more than two car lengths from the car ahead of them.

The race leader is required to maintain approximately the same speed the safety car was using when it extinguished its lights, until the leader has passed the new ‘Restart Point’ – designated at each circuit by TOCA and to be positioned between the final corner and the start/finish control line – after which the leader can then accelerate up to racing speed.

All cars must maintain their positions, with no overtaking or overlapping until they pass the green flag at the control line.

Sebring440

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2,685 posts

110 months

Thursday 7th November 2024
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freedman said:
All cars must maintain their positions, with no overtaking or overlapping until they pass the green flag at the control line.
"and stay no more than two car lengths from the car ahead of them" — so how are they going to police that?

GlobalRacer

388 posts

27 months

Thursday 7th November 2024
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Sebring440 said:
"and stay no more than two car lengths from the car ahead of them" — so how are they going to police that?
Same way they police it in other series with the same rules. Eyeballs of marshalls and gps in race control I expect.

drmotorsport

871 posts

257 months

Thursday 7th November 2024
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freedman said:
It is better explained in full

When the Safety Car lights are turned off – indicating it will accelerate away from the pack and return to the pit-lane – all cars must cease weaving, braking and/or accelerating and stay no more than two car lengths from the car ahead of them.

The race leader is required to maintain approximately the same speed the safety car was using when it extinguished its lights, until the leader has passed the new ‘Restart Point’ – designated at each circuit by TOCA and to be positioned between the final corner and the start/finish control line – after which the leader can then accelerate up to racing speed.

All cars must maintain their positions, with no overtaking or overlapping until they pass the green flag at the control line.
"...the new ‘Restart Point’ – designated at each circuit by TOCA and to be positioned between the final corner and the start/finish control line – after which the leader can then accelerate up to racing speed." I'm not a fan of this bit, I think it removes another bit of proper racing where the leader can choose a suitable point for them to floor it once the safety car is out of the way. Most UK circuits have very little distance between the last corner and the finish line, especially Brands which has no straight bits!

Rotary Potato

481 posts

110 months

Thursday 7th November 2024
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Will it be a singular point? Or will it be a zone - like in Nascar - where the lead driver has to accelerate up to racing speed somewhere in that zone, but can choose where within the zone to hit the loud pedal?

I'm not against the idea of the rule ... I just think it may need a little tweaking to work well in practice.

MB140

4,583 posts

117 months

Thursday 7th November 2024
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Rotary Potato said:
Will it be a singular point? Or will it be a zone - like in Nascar - where the lead driver has to accelerate up to racing speed somewhere in that zone, but can choose where within the zone to hit the loud pedal?

I'm not against the idea of the rule ... I just think it may need a little tweaking to work well in practice.
I think in effect they har made the rule to provide just that.

There will be a point post the last corner but before where the start line is where the lead driver has to accelerate to racing speed. That is in effect the zone. Nothing says on immediately passing the point the driver has to accelerate. He could leave it right up to the start line I suppose.

GbGaz

92 posts

135 months

Wednesday 20th November 2024
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New team announced... vortx racing - 2 car team to run 2 cupras.. drivers currently unknown, but the team was set up 0n the 8th october and is registered to a Lorraine Blundell from what I can see.

cuprabob

16,554 posts

228 months

Wednesday 20th November 2024
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GbGaz said:
New team announced... vortx racing - 2 car team to run 2 cupras.. drivers currently unknown, but the team was set up 0n the 8th october and is registered to a Lorraine Blundell from what I can see.
Some relation to Mark Blundell I would assume, although his wife is called Deborah. As an aside everytime I say Deborah I can't help but sing Common People by Pulp. rofl

Rotary Potato

481 posts

110 months

Wednesday 20th November 2024
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cuprabob said:
Some relation to Mark Blundell I would assume, although his wife is called Deborah. As an aside everytime I say Deborah I can't help but sing Common People by Pulp. rofl
You should stop doing that ...

It never suited you.

bowtie

As a pedantic aside, Common People was about the Greek lass. Disco 2000 was about Debs. biggrin

cuprabob

16,554 posts

228 months

Wednesday 20th November 2024
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Rotary Potato said:
cuprabob said:
Some relation to Mark Blundell I would assume, although his wife is called Deborah. As an aside everytime I say Deborah I can't help but sing Common People by Pulp. rofl
You should stop doing that ...

It never suited you.

bowtie

As a pedantic aside, Common People was about the Greek lass. Disco 2000 was about Debs. biggrin
Doh, so it was smile

Rotary Potato

481 posts

110 months

Wednesday 20th November 2024
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cuprabob said:
Doh, so it was smile
I'm just glad her name wasn't Alice ...


Milkyway

10,308 posts

67 months

Wednesday 20th November 2024
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Wonder if it will have have any connections to WSR. scratchchin

Sebring440

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2,685 posts

110 months

Wednesday 20th November 2024
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Milkyway said:
Wonder if it will have have any connections to WSR. scratchchin
No.

Milkyway

10,308 posts

67 months

Thursday 21st November 2024
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Sebring440 said:
Milkyway said:
Wonder if it will have have any connections to WSR. scratchchin
No.
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GlobalRacer

388 posts

27 months

Thursday 21st November 2024
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GbGaz said:
New team announced... vortx racing - 2 car team to run 2 cupras.. drivers currently unknown, but the team was set up 0n the 8th october and is registered to a Lorraine Blundell from what I can see.
Supposedly Sumpton (it's his team) and Hamilton.

Sebring440

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2,685 posts

110 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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2025 TOCA TBL Licence Allocation:

EXCELR8 Motorsport: 4
West Surrey Racing: 4
Alliance Racing: 4
Speedworks Motorsport: 4
Power Maxed Racing: 2
Un-Limited Motorsport: 2
Restart Racing: 2
One Motorsport: 2


https://btcc.net/toca-announces-tbl-holders-for-20...

airbusA346

1,919 posts

167 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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EXCELR8, Restart Racing confirm multi-year BTCC collaboration.

EXCELR8 can today confirm that it has entered into a multi-year collaboration with the Restart Racing team that will see two additional Hyundai i30 Fastback N cars join the Kwik Fit British Touring Car Championship grid for the 2025 season as part of a customer programme.

https://www.excelr8motorsport.com/excelr8-restart-...


MB140

4,583 posts

117 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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'Thrilled' Smiley returns to BTCC with Restart Racing https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/c98lyk...

airbusA346

1,919 posts

167 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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Speed Badger

3,150 posts

131 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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Didn't see that coming, should be interesting - he showed some real flashes of speed in the Cupra.