2026: BTCC chat & discussion
Discussion
SodiumThiopental said:
SpudLink said:
Ingram overtook 10 cars in 2 laps. Anyone who can't see that Ingram s car is easily the fastest is deluded.
Is that how it works?
Money talks.Is that how it works?
(Does that mean he wins... 8 - 5)
Race 3: Tom couldn't get past Ash... even with boost
(The Focus looks so planted).
hammo19 said:
Both Sutton and Ingram are in a class of their own. They are the best drivers and provide the best entertainment. The rest are good drivers but no where near the ability of Ash and Tom. What would they have been like in the Super Tourers.
I think that sums it up perfectly Ash and Tom are in a different class from the rest. Good drive from Flash in race 3 thoughhammo19 said:
Both Sutton and Ingram are in a class of their own. They are the best drivers and provide the best entertainment. The rest are good drivers but no where near the ability of Ash and Tom. What would they have been like in the Super Tourers.
Agreed. They are able to get more out of their respective cars than their teammates. They are able to drive around the limitations imposed by the rules to try and handicap successful drivers. They are exceptional in making progress through the field. Bad luck has put Ingram a long way behind Sutton. But I don’t think there’s much difference in pace between Ingram in the Hyundai and Sutton in the Ford.
SodiumThiopental said:
ninepoint2 said:
Tom has been demoted to 8th for track limits infringements
Harsh but fair, rules are rules.Tom said that he was using everything... Obviously a bit too much.
(Must be a lot of black cats at Team Vertu.)
Edited by Milkyway on Sunday 24th May 22:36
A few points/opinions from myself:
-The Focus is the quickest car and they seem to have the best engine. Mountune did a lot of R&D on the Ecoboost during the off-season and you can tell. The Arena/Motorbase/Alliance(NAPA) Fords have always had strong engines ever since the S2000 Focus.
-However, i can't understand the whinging about the Ford being too fast. Ash could not get past the slowest car on the straights yesterday (Toyota) when Shedden was using boost. Last season the Hyundais were going past other cars without boost when the others were on it, and nobody was complaining then? Why should NAPA be penalised just because their engine supplier has done a good job?
-Ingrams rotten luck surely has to end soon. He and that i30n is capable of fighting with Ash no doubt. And it's only a matter of time when Ash will have a bad weekend and get Rowbottomed in race1 and has to start at the back for R2.
-Dan Cammish needs to be a bit edgier and ruthless if he wants to fight with Ash and Tom for the title. DanCam has the car and the talent to do so - just needs to sharpen his elbows a bit imo.
-Rowbottom didn't smash anybody off the track - wohoo.
-The Focus is the quickest car and they seem to have the best engine. Mountune did a lot of R&D on the Ecoboost during the off-season and you can tell. The Arena/Motorbase/Alliance(NAPA) Fords have always had strong engines ever since the S2000 Focus.
-However, i can't understand the whinging about the Ford being too fast. Ash could not get past the slowest car on the straights yesterday (Toyota) when Shedden was using boost. Last season the Hyundais were going past other cars without boost when the others were on it, and nobody was complaining then? Why should NAPA be penalised just because their engine supplier has done a good job?
-Ingrams rotten luck surely has to end soon. He and that i30n is capable of fighting with Ash no doubt. And it's only a matter of time when Ash will have a bad weekend and get Rowbottomed in race1 and has to start at the back for R2.
-Dan Cammish needs to be a bit edgier and ruthless if he wants to fight with Ash and Tom for the title. DanCam has the car and the talent to do so - just needs to sharpen his elbows a bit imo.
-Rowbottom didn't smash anybody off the track - wohoo.
w1ltsu said:
A few points/opinions from myself:
-The Focus is the quickest car and they seem to have the best engine. Mountune did a lot of R&D on the Ecoboost during the off-season and you can tell. The Arena/Motorbase/Alliance(NAPA) Fords have always had strong engines ever since the S2000 Focus.
-However, i can't understand the whinging about the Ford being too fast. Ash could not get past the slowest car on the straights yesterday (Toyota) when Shedden was using boost. Last season the Hyundais were going past other cars without boost when the others were on it, and nobody was complaining then? Why should NAPA be penalised just because their engine supplier has done a good job?
-Ingrams rotten luck surely has to end soon. He and that i30n is capable of fighting with Ash no doubt. And it's only a matter of time when Ash will have a bad weekend and get Rowbottomed in race1 and has to start at the back for R2.
-Dan Cammish needs to be a bit edgier and ruthless if he wants to fight with Ash and Tom for the title. DanCam has the car and the talent to do so - just needs to sharpen his elbows a bit imo.
-Rowbottom didn't smash anybody off the track - wohoo.
In the interview Ingram said the Ford was making 5 car lengths on the straights, that's after Sutton had used his boost.-The Focus is the quickest car and they seem to have the best engine. Mountune did a lot of R&D on the Ecoboost during the off-season and you can tell. The Arena/Motorbase/Alliance(NAPA) Fords have always had strong engines ever since the S2000 Focus.
-However, i can't understand the whinging about the Ford being too fast. Ash could not get past the slowest car on the straights yesterday (Toyota) when Shedden was using boost. Last season the Hyundais were going past other cars without boost when the others were on it, and nobody was complaining then? Why should NAPA be penalised just because their engine supplier has done a good job?
-Ingrams rotten luck surely has to end soon. He and that i30n is capable of fighting with Ash no doubt. And it's only a matter of time when Ash will have a bad weekend and get Rowbottomed in race1 and has to start at the back for R2.
-Dan Cammish needs to be a bit edgier and ruthless if he wants to fight with Ash and Tom for the title. DanCam has the car and the talent to do so - just needs to sharpen his elbows a bit imo.
-Rowbottom didn't smash anybody off the track - wohoo.
Adrian W said:
w1ltsu said:
A few points/opinions from myself:
-The Focus is the quickest car and they seem to have the best engine. Mountune did a lot of R&D on the Ecoboost during the off-season and you can tell. The Arena/Motorbase/Alliance(NAPA) Fords have always had strong engines ever since the S2000 Focus.
-However, i can't understand the whinging about the Ford being too fast. Ash could not get past the slowest car on the straights yesterday (Toyota) when Shedden was using boost. Last season the Hyundais were going past other cars without boost when the others were on it, and nobody was complaining then? Why should NAPA be penalised just because their engine supplier has done a good job?
-Ingrams rotten luck surely has to end soon. He and that i30n is capable of fighting with Ash no doubt. And it's only a matter of time when Ash will have a bad weekend and get Rowbottomed in race1 and has to start at the back for R2.
-Dan Cammish needs to be a bit edgier and ruthless if he wants to fight with Ash and Tom for the title. DanCam has the car and the talent to do so - just needs to sharpen his elbows a bit imo.
-Rowbottom didn't smash anybody off the track - wohoo.
In the interview Ingram said the Ford was making 5 car lengths on the straights, that's after Sutton had used his boost.-The Focus is the quickest car and they seem to have the best engine. Mountune did a lot of R&D on the Ecoboost during the off-season and you can tell. The Arena/Motorbase/Alliance(NAPA) Fords have always had strong engines ever since the S2000 Focus.
-However, i can't understand the whinging about the Ford being too fast. Ash could not get past the slowest car on the straights yesterday (Toyota) when Shedden was using boost. Last season the Hyundais were going past other cars without boost when the others were on it, and nobody was complaining then? Why should NAPA be penalised just because their engine supplier has done a good job?
-Ingrams rotten luck surely has to end soon. He and that i30n is capable of fighting with Ash no doubt. And it's only a matter of time when Ash will have a bad weekend and get Rowbottomed in race1 and has to start at the back for R2.
-Dan Cammish needs to be a bit edgier and ruthless if he wants to fight with Ash and Tom for the title. DanCam has the car and the talent to do so - just needs to sharpen his elbows a bit imo.
-Rowbottom didn't smash anybody off the track - wohoo.
Adrian W said:
In the interview Ingram said the Ford was making 5 car lengths on the straights, that's after Sutton had used his boost.
He was exaggerating - racing drivers, eh? If the Ford was that quick on the straight bits they would just sail past people like they had another gear and it would show in the speedtraps.
While their engine probably is the best one out there - Sutton is able to get on the power really early in during corner exit and that helps.
I remember last season when the Hyundais were flying past especially the Cupras and BMW's on the straight bits even without boost while the others were using it - nobody was complaining then.
The points gap between Sutton and Ingram is not that big yet as we are so early on in the season. As i said - its only a matter of time until a DeLeon or Rowbottom does a kamikaze on Sutton in a R1 or he has a puncture/tech failure.
w1ltsu said:
I remember last season when the Hyundais were flying past especially the Cupras and BMW's on the straight bits even without boost while the others were using it - nobody was complaining then.
Really? I read and heard many complaints about the performance of that car. Alliance weren't though as they had been in the same situation before with the dominant car and realised that.Gassing Station | General Motorsport | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff